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49 Yr Old with 53 Yr Old Hubby -- Both Getting Biltmore Lift! Asheville, NC

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I can honestly say, I've lived a blessed life and...

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I can honestly say, I've lived a blessed life and I’m even excited about the prospect of turning 50 years old later this year. While I don't need a major overhaul, I’ve always known, the time for me to address facial/neck sagging would be before it garnered enough momentum to drastically change the structure of my face, and also, that the right procedure(s) done at the right time(s) should enhance my face/neck without anyone realizing I obviously had “work” done...they'd just think I'd aged gracefully....and I WILL have aged gracefully...only with the help of a gifted plastic surgeon!! In that respect, plastic surgery has been a measure which I would utilize “as needed” when the time came, and after 49 years, I am utilizing it!!!

About a year ago, I started noticing the laxity and droopiness of my neck and jaw area, which began loosening 8 years earlier, was accelerating to the point of where my neck was spilling over my turtlenecks, and "disrupting" my profile. As a former beauty queen who never before had to think about angling my head/neck for a “good” photo, I found that I HATED having my photo taken and pretty much shunned cameras!!

Also, I realized the reason why my eyelashes were hitting my upper lids and leaving mascara marks was NOT because they had suddenly grown longer, but because my eyelids were sagging down onto them!!! For the most part, I’ve gone through life looking younger than my chronological age. Yet, my eyes, lower face, and neck have started closing that gap---quickly!! Therefore, I finally decided to take charge of the aging process and get a couple of things "tweaked" before I began to look OLDER than my actual age. In short, I am vain y'all!! LOL!

However, when I told my husband I wanted this surgery, he was worried that the face he fell in love with 23 years ago would be unrecognizable to him. However, after I assured him (and our 3 sons) that I'd done my research, I showed him Dr. Harley's results’ photos & video; PLUS, the reviews & photos of the generous women in the RealSelf community who’d already had the surgery and shared their photos & experiences with RealSelf. Not only was my husband convinced Dr. Harley was the right surgeon with the right procedure(s) for me, but HE himself wanted to have the Biltmore Lift too!! Therefore, I guess my husband and I are evenly matched when it comes to vanity!!! LOL!!

With that said, my hubby and I have already filled out the in-take forms, and I've done a phone consultation with Dr. Harley (oh, he is a sweet & kind man). He talked me through the entire process and answered my questions. My husband will have a phone consultation with Dr. Harley later. From the 3 photos of me that I initially sent in to him (pictured in this post) I decided to have the Biltmore Lift procedure, as well as, my upper eyelids done. When Dr. Harley sees me in person, he and I may decide to do the lower lids as well, but I don't want to have any surgeries before I actually need them. I'd rather do too little than too much. Plus...when he sees me in person, if he doesn't think I need the upper lids done, then I won't.

As for my husband, he's probably getting "the full meal deal", so to speak...Biltmore Lift, along with upper and lower eyelids lifted. I don't have definite surgery dates yet, but I do know that they will be back-to-back with Dr. Harley performing my surgery on one day, and then performing my husband's procedures the following day. We live about 7 hours from Asheville, so we'll be driving and bringing one or two people with us. We're also planning on having hubby's dermatologist take out our stitches.

Since so many women have been brave enough to post their photos and document their experiences with the Biltmore Lift and Dr. Harley, I feel that it is only fair that I do the same. These courageous women are the very reason I’m having the surgery with Dr. Harley. However, I will probably show my husband's "before and after" photos ONLY if he agrees to let me do so. If possible, I will try and document his recovery too, but he travels a lot with our family business and is only home 2-5 days a month, so it will be rather challenging to do so. Honestly, it's a miracle he even has the time to fit this surgery into his schedule. Since he works incredibly hard, and rarely does anything for himself, especially on this level, I am probably more thrilled that he’s having the surgery than I am for myself!! I'll update with more photos and insights/experiences as this process unfolds for me. I'll also share our surgery dates once they are solidified. Thank you for your support and encouragement in advance.

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February 4, 2016
Very well said !
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February 5, 2016
Thank You!
February 5, 2016
You look great to begin with! I just had lipo in my chin and it worked wonders! I decided to hold off the lift because of the expense and down time. Wasn't sure if my results would be enough but it has been great for my neck. I will still need the lift to address droopinrss but my neck is now much tighter. Take a look at my pics. I posted them yesterday, not sure if they are up yet
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February 5, 2016
I just looked at them and your results are beautiful...as are you!! :)
February 5, 2016
I'm scheduled with him too...next month. Took me about a year to finally get up the courage to make the appt. but I'm ready now.
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February 5, 2016
That is fantastic!! I am excited...and scared...but mostly excited!! It looks like I'll have my surgery on 3/15, and my husband will have his on 3/16. Oh my gosh, it is beginning to feel REAL!!! LOL!!
February 9, 2016
I'm right behind all of you folks in March and will appreciate hearing your words of wisdom as you go first. My surgery is scheduled for April 12. I cannot wait!
February 9, 2016
I'm right in front of you girls, on the 3/11. I'm not sure I'm going to be brave enough to post pics on here...maybe I can just post the lower half. I took some pics yesterday of just the lower to see if that would work...on my gosh, I really need this surgery!
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February 24, 2016
Oh my word, it's getting close to your surgery date!!! I KNOW you are excitedly awaiting the day!!! I would love to see some photos of your progress (even if it's just the lower portion of your face) when the time comes. I'm sure others would be interested as well. You're going to do great...I just feel sure of it!!!
February 24, 2016
I'm getting close to getting up some pics...maybe. I took several of the lower half of my face and neck...sheesh, I can't believe I let it get this bad and sometimes I think it just happened overnight! If I hold my head straight it's not so bad but if I look a little downward like at my phone it's downright horrible. I'm embarrassed to even put them up. I have jowls now too and it's making the pores around my mouth very obvious as well as showcasing mild scarring I had from my teen years. Never noticed any of it ever until the jowls crept on me. Almost wondering if I should ask him about a peel too. I need this surgery for sure. I'm pretty sure I'm doing my eyes too. Dr. Harley is kind enough to let me go until the last minute with my decision but I'm more then likely doing the uppers too since I'm going to have to hide out anyway. It's definitely getting close!
February 6, 2016
SouthernSister! Its so good to see you on here, "paying it forward", as they say! You are such a natural beauty and Dr Harley is such a skilled surgeon that your results are going to be AMAZING! That much is a given! You have been such a great supporter and I think it's really wonderful that you will be sharing your experience with this community to not only inspire and embolden others but to get a little of that positive energy you send it flowing back your way! With your bone structure and your awesome attitude, you are a HOME RUN WAITING TO HAPPEN! YAY! Congrats to you and your Hubby!
February 6, 2016
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February 7, 2016

I was able to remove the duplicates. I'm sorry for any inconvenience Friday's glitch caused.

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Surgery Dates Finalized & Hotel Booked!

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Juanita (from Dr. Harley's office) called to finalize our surgery dates. YAY!! I'll have my surgery on March 16th and my husband will have his on March 17th. Oddly enough, hubby did not want to go first. When I questioned him as to why, he said, "Just in case something goes wrong!" Of course, I had to ask him if he’d also throw me in front of speeding bullet if one happened to be headed our way, and save himself. To which he replied, " I MEANT, that If something goes wrong, then you can afford to BE less attractive, but since I (meaning himself) am just passably attractive, I CAN’T!!" LOL!! I’ve never heard such “logic”!!! LOL!! Personally, I think he's afraid to admit he’s …... well, AFRAID!!
I thought our surgeries would be on the 15th and 16th of March, but I was mistaken. I’m so glad Juanita called to confirm the actual dates (16th & 17th). I have to REALLY hand it to Dr. Harley and his staff…It’s been a bit of a juggling act on their part to work around my husband’s business schedule, do individual phone consults with both of us, and schedule us for back-to-back surgery dates!! However, they pulled it off!!!
Since there will be two if us having the procedure, and none of our family knows we’re having this surgery (except for our 3 sons, who won’t “squeal” on us), we are taking our fabulous housekeeper and her husband along to “see to us” when needed. It’s a good thing we’re all friends too since I’ve booked a 2-bedroom suite at the Residence Inn Asheville Biltmore. This arrangement affords us the convenience of having help at hand, a driver for the 7-hour trip back home, and access to a full kitchen. We’ll arrive the day before my surgery to stock the fridge and pick up any last minute items we may need.
Because of the helpful tips from folks like TracyAnne, Caribbeangal, liaiki, and Klauderb, I’ve already started purchasing items they suggested to make the healing process easier. To them I say, “Thank you ladies!!!”
Perhaps the most challenging part of this process is keeping a lid on our surgeries. I totally forgot that Easter is March 27th this year. We have a close family (both sides) that ALWAYS spends Easter, Christmas, Mother’s Day, etc… at my house! They are a fun-loving, but VERY nosey group of people (especially my sweet mother-in-law) --- think of the as the family in ‘My Big Fat Greek Wedding’ but substitute wild game on a grill for the pig on a spit in their front yard, throw in camouflage clothing, southern drawls, and a side of potato salad, and you have our family!! So, you can probably understand why we’re still trying to figure out how to keep them in the dark until WE decide to share that info or admit to anything! The next few months are going to be interesting, to say the least! 34 days and counting…

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February 12, 2016
Congratulations! Wow - what a team you have! I'm so glad you got the dates nailed down for both of you. Funny conversation with you and your husband - I thought he was coming from that male protective place - his answer was great! But you didn't fall for it.

I'd love to see your shopping list if you have it available In your digital library.
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February 12, 2016
It's still a work in progress as I am still reading reviews on humidifiers. But off the top of my head --- I am picking up a juicer (Breville JE98XL). It was best value for the dollar and rated as one of the top two on most everyone's top 5 and top 10 lists. Also, I'm picking up the arnica montana(pill form & gel form), bromelain, travel pillowsand/or pillow wedge (still researching these too), fresh organic pineapples & blueberries, bottled water, greek yogurt, zippered plastic bags (to put ice & ice down my face/eyes), Mepitac 298300 Soft Silicone Tape (3/4" x 118" scar tape from Amazon.com), Bacatrin cream, peroxide, round cotton makeup pads, Tylenol, low sodium soups, peanut butter & crackers, and Dermablend cream cover/makeup. I'm sure there sill be other things I'll want to purchase, but the items I listed are things I believe will make my recovery easier and more productive. Of course, I am open to any tips and ideas along these same lines of thought!! :)
February 12, 2016
I am THRILLED to see the humidifier on your list. I am thinking of changing the title of my own review from "44 Yr old Birthday Present...blah blah" to "GET A HUMIDIFIER IF YOU DO UPPER BLEPH." You seriously don't need anything fancy. The Grommet has a great one for @$100-$150 that automatically senses the humidity in the air or something awesome like that (https://www.thegrommet.com/roolen-breath-humidifer,) but I am telling you that you can pay less than $30 and get the one they sell at Walmart (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Vicks-Warm-Mist-Humidifier/29765912) ...possibly even get 2, one for your side of the bed and one for K's side of the bed... The humidifier was a life saver for my eyes.
I would also like to add that I did the silicone scar tape and I think it had value, I really do, and I know it is very highly rated, but in my experience I never woke up with it in all the places I went to sleep with it on...so I started to wonder how and when it had fallen off in the night...I ended up going with the great advice I got from some women on this site and got the silicone gel (the brand I use is ScarAway) and I really like it. It is about $30 at Ulta and a bit more than that at Walgreens...not sure if they sell it at Walmart.
One more thing I will add...the arnica and the bromelian and the pineapple and blueberries REALLY DO work, I mean, I am a BRUISER, but I had almost zero bruising from the lift itself... I know you and Hubby are doing the upper bleph, or at least I know Hubby is, not sure if you are on the fence ( sorry, I forgot) but no amount of arnica or blueberries of pineapples are gonna keep bruising /swelling out of your eyelids. I am not saying that there is no value in still doing them, that is not what I am saying at all, but I basically lived on blueberries and pineapples and arnica pellets and no matter what, I think, the eyes are gonna take a hit. Its just that those lids are so delicate, I think, that they do take the biggest hit...so please go and get the icepacks that are filled with gel and are shaped like sleeping masks! The biggest thing for my eyelids was hot, moist washrags on them (as per Dr Harley's orders) and then, alternately, being able to really ice them down with that gel pack shaped like a sleeping mask...it is great because the elastic just keeps it on your face and perfectly in place.
So, I would add silicone gel and sleeping-mask shaped cold-pack for the eyes. You can wait on the scar gel because you won't use it until your incisions have healed, but be sure to get the sleeping mask gel packs...and have I mentioned HUMIDIFIER?
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February 12, 2016

Hijacking here. I'm having upper bleph next week and my surgeon doesn't want me icing. I can't figure out why this would be...unless he's worried that you will be numb and could hurt yourself with the ice. It seems like cool gel packs would work, though.

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February 12, 2016
Hmmm....I'm not sure either - I had one about 4 years ago and I'm pretty sure my doctor had me use frozen peas.
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February 13, 2016
Ohhhh... TracyAnne, those are extremely helpful suggestions!! I will be sure to get the gel sleeping masks and scar gel. Humidifiers are definitely on the list -- 2 of them!! :) Hubby totally agrees with you on the Dermablend you suggested he use too. However, the rat totally hijacked my cover fib---you know, the sinus surgery cover fib you originated!!! LOL!!! It's a terrible husband who steals the fib his wife stole and uses it BEFORE she even gets the chance to use said fib!! LOL!!!

On a serious note, do you think it''s worth it to purchase the juicer? I'm wondering if the benefit from making pineapple/blueberry juice is any different or better than just straight up eating those 2 fruits. Everyone is welcome to chime in --- Thanks for any input! :)
February 13, 2016
I think if you're more likely to drink the juice than eat the fruit it may be worth it, idk, Southern Sister. My boyfriend bought, like, 4 whole organic pineapples with us up to NC, and we carted the damn things around with us to 3 different hotels and I never touched them, because it was just too much to deal with a whole pineapple in a hotel room. I stuck to the organic, cold pressed pineapple juice in the glass bottles that I purchased from Whole Foods...I'll get you the brand name, they have a Whole Foods in Asheville. I guess I'm saying that juice was the easiest for me...but I think JUICING would be a whole different story. Juicing is a pain in the a$$, and I'm not sure I'd want to do it in a hotel room. Maybe you could plan on juicing at home, before hand and then doing the bottled juice the days you are in NC, then decide after your surgery if you want to stick with cold pressed bottled juice or go back to juicing? I just ate the fruit beforehand and then drank the bottled pineapple in the room. As far as blueberries go, just eat those...it's my understanding that the important part of the blueberry is the skin, and a true juicer is going to remove a lot of the skin...now, a Vitamix or any other whole foods blender that does not remove the skin and pulp, you could add the blueberries, but don't put the blueberries in a juicer because you want the skin. Honestly, I say just eat everything whole beforehand and then plan on having whole blueberries and a little bottled pineapple juice for the hotel. Then eat it whole again when you get home. If you are taking pain meds, the fiber from the fruit really helps you not get constipated.
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February 13, 2016
That's good advice ! thank you TracyAnne
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February 13, 2016
LOL!!! I truly live in small town America and we only have one very tiny mom & pop natural/organic store. So, when you mentioned (in a previous post somewhere) that you drank fresh organic pineapple juice, I envisioned you chopping up tropical pineapple and popping it into some kind of Ron Popeil Juice-O-Matic contraption from which a fountain of organic juice sprang!! LOL!! I totally forgot organic pineapple juice is sold-----IN STORES!! Seeeeeee---I TOLD you I was a hillbilly!!!! LOL!! Well, that settles THAT! Scrap the juicer!! We'll be stopping by Whole Foods on our way to the hotel and picking up cold pressed organic pineapple juice. I'd rather not shell out $150 for a juicer when I can buy the stuff in an organic store---we'll just buy a bunch to throw into the cooler to take back home with us for later. Now, since we'll have a kitchen, we'll probably buy the organic fresh pineapples to core and slice to eat with those blueberries. Thank you for clarifying the juicer thing for me. That's a load off my mind!!! :)
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February 13, 2016
Yes - thanks -TA and SS. Have decided I'm not carting a blender in my checked luggage, but I thought about it... Good to know there's a Whole Foods - I guess I'll have to ask Ian to stop one other place. I'll have TLC - first day after the surgery and they are bringing a blender and all the other stuff that is recommended. But since I'm only having them for one day I doubt that they're going to leave me their special pillow or the juices etc. etc. I'm going to pick out the travel pillow at the Portland airport. Couldn't find one I like today.

Other must haves for me:
Yogi Egyptian licorice tea; 2 bars of 70% organic dark chocolate with almonds; organic soups; tiger balm for the back of my neck; burt's bees lip balm; dark dark sunglasses; Neova 50 spf tinted moisturizer; wide stretchy headband; Couple magazines I haven't been able to read and a fiction and nonfiction paperback. Plus the other stuff like bacitracin and the eye mask. And because I'm having the peel I'll be putting A + D ointment on my face. Oh and I always carry Benadryl because sometimes I have weird allergies. And my PCP gave me a script for Ambien just in case I can't sleep. I like it because it doesn't give me a hangover.

Clothing is going to be a bit of a challenge since it's snowing the day I arrive. I really don't feel like carrying a winter coat but I will take my extra large red cowl that my friend knitted and fingerless gloves.
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February 13, 2016
Sounds like you have your "game plan" down to a "T"!! :) So what is this special pillow tht TLC has....hmmm??? Is it something we can pick up at amazon.com?? I have been looking at travel pillows today and cannot settle on one -- actually two, since I am doing the "recon" for both me and my husband.
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February 13, 2016
I understand SS -I live in a town of 3000 with one grocery store but we do have another town/city of 10,000 nearby and it has a Fred Meyer. I go into shock when I go into a mall - maybe once a year - because I see all these things that I don't realize I don't have and thinking maybe I should want them and I see all these people wearing these beautiful clothes and jewelry. I used to live in Miami and San Diego and Marin County, but I've been in Oregon since 92 with a year in northern Vermont. (Even more remote). Good news is that everywhere I've lived there's been a co-op so it's always been easy to get organic foods and products.

You guys, this crazy fall thing is behind me, my son is here to take care of Gabby (Border terrier/Sharpei aka escape artist) and keep an eye on the homestead - and I am so excited. Tomorrow Ill pick up rx, figure out which clothes to take and pack. Tonight I'd better reserve shuttle to Portland - i live 3 hrs from airport, but there's a shuttle an hour away. Logistics!
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February 13, 2016
Yeah travel pillows are kind of challenging. They only have three in the Fred Meyer I went to and one had the beats and the other didn't but neither felt right - of course, I couldn't lie down to check them out. I want something that's kind of snug around my neck to keep my head from falling from side to side. I read somebody's review on travel pillows - man he was very specific. But now I understand they're not all created equal so I figure the airports good place to get one - I always see so many of them there. And there's usually plenty of time to kill. Oh I just realize you guys are driving so that won't work for you. You could wait til you get to Asheville, but you might want to have them in the car on your trip?
February 12, 2016
Can't wait to follow your journey. I had to cancel my trip down last month because of weather so I need to reschedule my consult.
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March 7, 2016
Shoot! I know that was frustrating. I hope you've been able to get back on track with everything.
February 12, 2016
You may want to try rice in a sock! Makes a great cool compression.. and when you need heat put in microwave!
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March 7, 2016
Thank you! I have have warmed up rice in a sock for shoulder pain before, but it never crossed my mind it could be used as a cold compress too --- that's genius!!!
February 13, 2016
Angie- Dr Harley advised me to use the warm compresses, and I think that's what you are supposed to do. No one should ever do anything their surgeon tells them not to do. But no one told me NOT to use cold on my eyelids, and I'm glad, because that gave me the greatest relief. The cool gel packs that are shaped like sleeping masks are meant for that area, and they are pretty thin, so the little gel bubbles warm up relatively quickly, meaning they don't really ice you down for long before you have to toss them back in the freezer, but my lids got so swollen I'm not sure I could have handled it otherwise. And after the first couple weeks, I used them a lot to control the swelling when I got up in the morning. I think you are supposed to use moist heat to encourage the delicate skin of the eyelid to relax and heal and to keep the incision nice and soft, because as that incision heals it sort of distorts the shape of the lid and you are trying to encourage the skin of the eyelid to stay flexible...and moist warmth is ideal for that, I guess. But I'm telling you right now, if I couldn't put a cool gel pack on my eyelids they would have been to swollen for me to stand it.
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March 7, 2016
This was great information, and I purchased the cool eye masks like you suggested so that we'll be able to alternate them with the warm moist compresses. Thank you for that smart tip TracyAnne!!! :)
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February 13, 2016
Oh....i meant the wedge.
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1 month pre

How to hide a neck...

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One of the best ways I have found to hide my saggy neck is with my hair! However, I sure would like to be able to wear my hair up without feeling self-conscious and paranoid about the state of my saggy jawline. Over the years, I've gotten pretty adept at hiding it. Just 32 more days until I can stop hiding my neck underneath my hair!!! YAY!!! I also won't mind getting rid of the bags underneath my eyes either. While I'm not smiling really big here, whenever I DO smile really big, my eyes look like they are sandwiched between two marshmallows---one above and one below each eye!! I took this photo yesterday, right after I came in from grocery shopping. I'm wearing foundation, mascara, lip gloss, and a smidgen of blush. I find that the older I get, the less I want to wear anything more than the fastest makeup application possible. Although I doubt anyone can tell, I actually DID brush my hair. It was an incredibly windy day , which made my hair frizzy and big. :)

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February 14, 2016
That will be fun - deciding how you WANT to wear your hair. I'm looking forward to necklaces and cowl neck sweaters.
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February 14, 2016
Oh I know the necklaces also and turtle necks I haven't wore anything in years .
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February 14, 2016
Amen!!!-----to BOTH Red and Flower!! We'll have lots more wardrobe options after surgery!!! YAY!!!!
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February 14, 2016
Your very pretty .. I can't wait to see your results . I'm like that also. Can not wait to wear my hair up !
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February 14, 2016
Do you guys have outside help? You will need a few days of TLC after surgery before you're able to care for him a d someone needs to drive you to dr check ups for a few days after . Not trying to put a damper on your exciting plans just hope you will have the necessary help you both need. Love your couple surgery plan just wondering about the scheduling back to back.
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February 14, 2016
allnew8, you read my mind! We have two people who will be staying with us, not only to care for us, but to drive us back home (or to our lakehouse) 2 days after my husband's surgery. Other than our 3 sons, none of our family knows we are having the surgery. If we go back home, then chances are good they will. So, we are still looking at our options and time frame. It will truly be a miracle if we can pull this off!! :)
February 14, 2016
I do the same thing.. Am planning mine for this summer.. Your features are similar to mine so I'll be really happy to see your results !
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February 14, 2016
Here's hoping my results are really positive----for BOTH of our sakes!!! :)