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Facelift Barely Lasted a Year

UPDATED FROM RealDissapointment
1 year post

New recommendation: 10+ syringes of filler??????

RealDissapointment
$9,000
Been dragging my feet on any major changes while still feeling buyer's remorse over the surgery but decided I needed to perk this face up for the holidays. I went for a consult for filler based on a referral from a friend. I took with me a photo of my face taken right before surgery and basically said what non surgical wizardry can me me look like this again? The answer? 10+ syringes of filler!! Excuse me? Comparing the before and after images the hollowing in my face is significant, especially in the area affected most by the operating (see photo). Oddly, two other people I have been in contact with have also experienced dramatic flattening in this area and are also complaining about their cheeks falling. Does anyone know why that may be? Long story short it will take 2 syringes to each side of the face just in that area alone to prop it up, then more in the cheekbones, under the eyes, the chin, the temples. The areas that were deeply sutured (under the chin, in front of the ear and temple) have hollowed the most. 10+ syringes of filler means its going to cost me close to $6000 to look as I did before surgery. I will restrain myself here from stating the obvious. 2 syringes down and I feel slightly less ugly, but I've got my work (and my budget) cut out for me.

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David H. Harley, MD

David H. Harley, MD

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November 14, 2018
That's what my Medispa that I go to calls a "Liquid Facelift" they charge around $5k. Almost the cost of another facelift! Good luck, I hope it turns out great!
November 14, 2018
Yep ! Nothing like needing a full liquid facelift after getting a surgical facelift.
November 15, 2018
and most fillers last less than 8 months so in 3 years u spend more than the cost of a total revision! this is why I don't understand why certain docs use fillers as part of a facelift procedure. what happens if u don't keep up the filler?!!!
November 15, 2018
Its true fillers don't last long, but neither did my facelift! The upshot of fillers is they don't harm you (in 99% of the cases, if you are using the dissolvable ones). Facelift does not replace volume so people often get fillers after surgery, but my god if I had known I would need this quantity of filler after spending close to $10K for a facelift I would have chosen implants over facelift for a surgical procedure. I like the idea of implants but I'm very gun shy about anything surgical right now.
November 16, 2018
I’m curious about cheek implants too but they seem so obvious. When I look at Kit Hoover on Access Hollywood - she looks like she has two golf balls in her face.
November 16, 2018
I think implants look fab - but I’m just scared of the risks
November 17, 2018
I want to add that even if the liquid facelift costs more than a mini surgical facelift over time, you will at least look better not worse. My surgery aged me 10 years - no joke. When I look back on photos of me right before surgery I can’t believe how young I looked. When cosmetic surgery leaves you wishing you looked as good as you did Before it’s not a success. People in thier 40s are too young to benefit from surgical facelifts. Older ladies who need a lot of sagging skin cut off yes, but younger wornen with minimal aging really should consider fillers and implants instead. If I would have gotten a fat transfer, fillers, and cheek implants I think I could have waited until almost 60 for the facelift
November 17, 2018
When I first started investigating facelifts at 55 a few years back, I went to an honest PS who said he thought I didn't need one. Everyone ages differently but I would say for most people 40s are way too young for a facelift. An honest surgeon will tell you the truth.
November 17, 2018
I agree. A recommendation should be made for the right treatment depending on the age and the amount of aging. I did not have significant aging so I would have been better suited for a liquid facelift or a fat transfer or cheek implants. It was way too early for a facelift.
May 5, 2022
Fat transfer is much better than filler in my opinion
November 15, 2018
if u are talking breasts I hope u learn to love the ones u have before taking that route. as a cancer survivor with only one now, I know so many implant horror stories. plz fix the face and leave the boobs!
November 15, 2018
Lol I am talking about cheek implants
November 15, 2018
oh thank God! go for it!
November 16, 2018
same idea but if something goes wrong it's on your FACE. Infection is a big one. And when they remove them -- IF they can -- you will then of course need a lift. So, uh, implants are very iffy. Honestly a GOOD lift with someone who knows how to do fat right is ideal, but the only few in this country that do this right are insanely overpriced. SO I am not gonna go to Harley (thanks to your help!) but am now looking into going oversea. In Korea and Japan they have fantastic docs btw.
November 16, 2018
I’m fascinated with KBeauty but I don’t think surgery is much cheaper than here. Yes I know implants are a risk running out of ideas . If I would have known the facelift wasn’t going to work I sure could have used that $10k for lots of filler or a fat transfer that would have cost about $6500 and lasted at least two years.
UPDATED FROM RealDissapointment
1 year post

Things people don't tell you before you have a facelift......

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Most of us do everything we can to hold out before having a facelift; there is the cost, the fear we will end up looking unrecognizable and the down time. As a result many people have been turning to quick lift with small price tags, shortened healing times and purported "limited" risks. Many get out relatively unscathed, but the truth is there are significant side effects that no one discusses or finds out about until its too late. Did you know that even a mini facelift can:
1) Make you look older. If you aren't getting a fat transfer with the lift, the surgery can leave you with a face that is flatter than before the surgery which can harden features and make you look older.
2) Make you look ODD. Unfortunately when surgery is not done correctly, it can change your face in subtle ways that make you appear odd, unnatural and unattractive. The windswept pulling, excessive fat removal, assymetry; your mouth becomes wider; your nose may look suddenly out of proportion and you may end up with lumps and bumps you didn't have before the procedure.
3) Leave you with nerve pain, damaged glands, tethered muscles and excessive scarring. Even if you come out of surgery mostly unscathed with no major motor nerve damage, you still may end up with health problems that may or may not ever be resolved. And this applies to mini lifts too, not just deep plane or more invasive surgeries.
4) Ruin your self esteem. Low self esteem is often the driving factor to getting a facelift and its hard to believe you could spend your entire savings and actually end up feeling even worse about the way you look. Way worse. Those of you who can't afford surgery may have gotten a blessing in disguise.
5) Leave you in need of another surgery. When facial surgery goes wrong, its not something you can hide. You almost have to plan to be able to afford a second surgery going in, unless you are in very good (an expensive) hands the first time around. Facelift redos are often more expensive, and may end up making you look even more unnatural.
All of it affects your life in ways you can't imagine, from your romantic relationship with your husband, to your ability to find work. When you look odd, unnatural, older, less confident it literally ruins everything. When the doctors are telling you about the small percentages of people who end up with nerve damage (everyone's biggest fear) they are not being honest about the large number of women who have life impacting negative outcomes. I know its expensive. I know you are desperate not to look older. But if you don't have the money to be worked on by one of the top docs in your state/region please consider the impact this surgery can have on your future happiness. If there is ever one time in your life NOT to make a decision based on money and "down time" this is the one.

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November 3, 2018
good advice. do much homework. do not bargain hunt. go in with eyes wide open.
November 4, 2018
Faceliftneed, yes. Do NOT bargain hunt. Do the legwork and consult only with the best, and yes that means paying for consults. Do it. A good facelift can help restore self esteem, extend your career, bring sexy back, change your outlook on life. A bad facelift gives you the polar opposite of all those things in spades. I beg of people to invest the money and the time to get it done right. We throw away hundreds every month on things like Starbucks, lunches out, fancy bottled waters, movies, downloads, [RS bleep] we don't need on Amazon, but we won't invest the money required to consult with talented plastic surgeons? That or we are too busy to drive a couple hours to a highly skilled doctor for a consult and think it be more convenient if the doctor can just skip the consult and talk to me over the phone. What? This is your FACE people. Do not play russian roulette with your surgery. The odds are not in your favor.
November 12, 2018
November 4, 2018
FABULOUS MESSAGE! I see some folks spend more time researching what car to buy than what Doc to pick. This can have huge impact as u well know. wishing u will have the Mimi experience. b
November 11, 2018
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November 15, 2018
Roses I wonder how many doctors do the same ? Send legal letters to silence people from telling the truth? The next time around I will not choose based on reviews only on referrals from people I actually know
December 3, 2018
I am sure many do but as you can see, realself removed my comments which neither abused nor disrespectful of "code of conduct". I merely stated my experiences and choosing a dr based on reviews. So I have to ask why would realself choose to block and remove omments which mention no names but only personal experience which led to a bad outcome. So even on this site one would have to now assume you are not always getting true information when comments are removed with their stringent oversight for no apparent reason
December 4, 2018
I also had a comment removed questioning the authenticity of someone’s review on a facial procedure. When I asked why they told me that the person was just trying to share their good experience and that my questioning wasn’t appropriate. In other words, when docs ask friends or patients to boost their visibility by posting a review - it doesn’t matter if they’ve actually had it done.
December 4, 2018
I find their oversight oversteps our freedom to post an opinion
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November 4, 2018
Great message to share
November 4, 2018
Great post but I would add that you can find the best, most expensive surgeon around and things can STILL go wrong. There are no guarantees, as any honest surgeon will tell you.
November 5, 2018
SallieSu, yes there are always risks but the odds are more favorable when you have invested time and money into consults and are working with someone who is customizing the surgery for your specific needs and physical limitations. I honestly get more customization with a 60 min facial than I did with my one size fits all surgery. We ask for personalization, we demand excellence and attention to detail in even the smallest things in our lives and yet when it comes to something like facial surgery we are willing to go dumpster diving and jump at the lowest bid. I’m not critizicng others, I did it too. I wish I had read a post like this when I was researching . You bet your ass I would have invested in more consults.
November 4, 2018
quite so- but a good one will stand behind his/her work!
UPDATED FROM RealDissapointment
1 year post

My face keeps looking weirder post surgery

RealDissapointment
I wish I had some good news to report but as time goes on my face just keeps looking weirder and weirder after this surgery. I've continued to get consults on how to fix what was done. Recently a doctor showed me a picture of myself from the side to demonstrate there are some things even another surgery will not fix. So much fat was taken under my chin (and I didn't have much there to begin with) that my face now looks like the bottom 1/4 was lopped off. If you don't have a bony chin/jaw structure then a surgery like this accentuates it and throws the balance of the face completely off. The soft lines I had before surgery have been replaced with a witch like jutting jawline that is neither feminine nor pretty. Its hard to explain, but I would actually need to get a fat graft under my jawline for it to look balanced and normal again. My mid face has also completely fallen - it does not look like I ever had a facelift and my nasolabial folds are quite noticeable. What started as being disappointment over money wasted for this surgery, is now utter despair that even if I can come up with the money for another procedure I cannot permanently fix what was done to my appearance. Its odd to see so many good reviews for this procedure when I know of at least 5 people (including myself) who had this surgery within the same 12 months and are seeing revision because of very bad results. Please be careful with the decisions you make for surgery as you will be looking in the mirror at the results for the rest of your life.

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October 9, 2018
I wish u would show us pics to give real impact to your story. this is an important message. Mimi did a second surgery bravely. maybe u will find the resources to help u. I pray so...
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October 10, 2018
faceliftneed - you are correct! Photos can help the reader better decide if the procedure with that doctor is worth it. I feel like I'am doing a disservice to other women who are considering a facelift/neck with my first crazy doctor,. I don't necessarily like posting my bad photos, but I don't think I'am fully helping other women understand my complaints if I don't.
October 10, 2018
I was left with malar bags under my eyes after FL. Dr. Harley said the swelling would dissipate over time. Almost one year later, no difference. He offers nothing and now states it was not due to surgery. It was! I don't care what anyone says, my family knows I never had a bag until after the procedure. My neck looks good but it now my left eye looks bad and I look tired. I do know how you feel. If not for the bag, I would have been happy. Dr. H later said the surgery was not near the eye. It is too ridiculous to argue. I know my fact and really don't want to hear excuses and no offer of help. I tried lymphatic massage per his instruction, no difference. It is very depressing. My face will never see another knife, EVER.
October 10, 2018
Cindyman, PM me with your email address and I would be happy to send you photos of my face after surgery. I can't take a good picture now to save my life even when I use 2 or 3 filters! I used to get told almost daily how attractive I was, now I can't remember the last time someone said I was pretty. Anyone who had this procedure and finds themselves asking themselves "can I actually look worse than I did before surgery?" the answer is "yes". You aren't crazy, you aren't being too critical or paranoid and your eyes don't deceive you. You aren't alone.
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October 10, 2018
RD - I finally had my redo and so far I couldn't be happier! I too know the pain of looking freakish! My first experience was a nightmare and even 11 months out, things were never going to improve. I know not everyone can afford a revision but I'am so thankful that I had the extra money to do so and found a sympathetic doctor, who understood how I should've come out the first time...... I did not want to live with the other doctors horrible mistake on my face forever, so I had to dig into my inheritance....and Now, I'am broke but I hope I'll be happier.....lol!
I hope you can find some one that can fix it for you because I don't think you'all have inner peace until you do! Good luck!
October 10, 2018
Thank you GM. I think you are right, the hurting over this won't go away until its fixed and I feel normal again. I took a peek at your photos and you look great! I know its too soon to know your final result, but it does look like the doctor was able to give you a much more targeted result. Fingers crossed it all works out for you as desired, you deserve it.
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October 10, 2018
RD - Thank you! - But I can't help be extra paranoid about every little thing, it drive me nuts. I worry about a repeat of the whole nightmare. But I have to dig deep inside me and just hope I made a better choice this time. I love my doctor this time around and I do feel that if something turns out not right that he'll work with me to fix it. The first doctor was an egotistical ass that couldn't see the problem and wouldn't offer a solid solution! I hope this time I wont need anymore fixing!!! Good luck and keep us posted if you find another doctor!
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October 11, 2018
Wow so sorry this keeps getting worse for you .its one thing to be out the money but if it could be fixed without problems a second time then at least you would be happy . But to now deal with never looking the same is just terrible I hope you find a surgeon that can help you take care keep us updated
October 11, 2018
I so understand what you are going through. As we have communicated privately, my deep plane facelift (another dr) is also getting worse and now at a little over 2 yrs. I also had too much fat taken out under chin when I really had no fat there. Everything on me has sagged and looks worse than before. While my jowls, and neck are hanging, something underneath is going on as the pain and tightness from the temples down to under my jaw is unbearable and as the day progresses my neck becomes tighter and more painful. Even my cheek bones are painful to the touch. As far as fat graft I have gotten mixed reviews about doing that as several doctors have told me that when placed in the neck area it can get very lumpy. So do your research before you consider doing it. I don't even know what to do at this point. It has just kept me depressed and homebound because of the pain and how bad it looks. This also has thinned my skin out horrible on my neck and face.
October 11, 2018
Roses I’m so sorry to hear this. It is very hard to live with watching your face change in unnatural ways because of a bad surgery. Being powerless to fix it to you look normal again is an emotional pain that can be crippling. I can’t invest in a fat transfer at this point but thank you for the feedback. So sad - I would have been much better off just getting a face full of filler then getting a “cheap” surgery
March 10, 2021
Can someone explain to me how taking fat from the under chin can cause such a disaster with the face? I didn't think we needed the fat under the chin. I had RF microneedling under the chin annd jawline and my cheeks fell too - it is so confusing what happened.
October 11, 2018
Mine was a more expensive surgery and still ended up in a bad situation so cheap or expensive makes no difference. I have been seeing another dr who corrected pixie ears and gave me a "mini lift" unbeknownst to me so Now the pain is intolerable and I honestly think he caused my FL to droop because a month after he did this I developed jowls and loose skin but of course he denies it. Can't afford another FL and afraid to trust anyone at this point