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Time to Lose the Jowls and Saggy Neck with LFL and get peel. Asheville, NC

4 months post

About a week shy of 4 months...

WORTH IT$7,200
since my surgery and I thought I'd do an update since there is some change since my last update. I am still completely happy with the lift, I could not have asked for better results. I really don't have any before pics to compare the new me with. I didn't like the way I looked and didn't take pics but I recently came upon one of me that someone took at a show I was at about 2 months prior to the surgery...what an incredible difference there is! I for sure look 10 yrs younger at least. The best part is nobody has ever guessed, not even my mom and if anybody would have it would have been her. I had about one or two weeks of looking a little squirrely and then I looked fine. The scars are nearly gone. I used Scar Away tapes for the first 2 months and then switched to Bio Oil and the oil is what seems to have really set the healing in motion. Any issues that concerned me cleared up such as a pleated thing by one ear and an indent along the jaw. Even my eyes that I had regretted not doing (Dr Harley didn't think I should) have improved for some reason since the lift and no longer look like they need anything done. The thing that has changed significantly since my last update is that I wasn't 100% happy with the chemical peel I had at the same time. I had some marks that lingered endlessly from the peel and I wasn't sure they were going to go away. Dr. Harley had me use Retin A and hydroquinine (sp?) cream and within a few weeks it all cleared up and my skin is amazing. I hope I didn't deter any people from having it done with my review because I'm very happy I had it done now. For sure, Dr. Harley is the surgeon to go to...I have absolutely no regrets...the results seem to just keep getting better. Oh...I wasn't able to go to my appt for before and after pics unfortunately. Life has had some obstacles and major changes since my surgery that I've had to deal with but I do hope to get there down the road. To all you ladies thinking about doing it...it's not even close to the big deal you think it will be to go through it. It's fairly an easy experience and you'll be absolutely thrilled with your results...honest you will!

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David H. Harley, MD

David H. Harley, MD

Board Certified Facial Plastic Surgeon

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So reassuring to read this post, thank you so much, coming from a 65 year old who is about to commit, thank you...
Hi Migisly, I just sent you a PM. I forgot to tell you that I am 64 years old and have already contacted Dr Sameer
Hi Bristlenose, so good to here from you, I will PM you soon.
Please forgive me if you have touched on tis but did you use Retin A and hydroquinone in preparation for the peel (ie., in the 4 - 6 weeks before your procedure?
So happy you are happy after the four months. I was just going to ask you that. I am going in on the 14th this month and I was wondering if things had smoothed out for you. Thank you SO much for all of your postings. All of these help us! :) Continued happy healing!
1 month post

7 Week Update

Hello Ladies! I haven't been around to check on everyone's progress lately but I do hope you're all doing well. At 7 weeks I am still absolutely thrilled with my Biltmore Lift results! My face has settled down nicely and I could not be any happier with how it turned out. For sure it turned the clock back at least 10 years. Still having to cover my incision marks and probably will still for a while because they are still red but other then the redness they look really good. The chemical peel is a different story. It has been a much more difficult recovery than the lift was. I didn't think at 7 weeks it would still be an issue but I have one large patch of redness in my cheek/jawline area that just wants to stay discolored. I can see that patch on my one week photos...almost like it got a different strength done or was swiped on harder, not sure but it's the same area with the same demarcation line. Dr. Harley has me using hydroquinone cream and Retin A on it but that is causing dryness and peeling (that's normal) and when I try to cover it my makeup just becomes one gloppy, peeling mess. I also have scars where my head wrap dug into me under both sides of my jaw that are still dark so using the stuff on them too...same mess. I know this too shall pass. Initially, I thought the peel was great but I think it was just the swelling I was loving. Pretty much the orange peel skin stuff came back and in all fairness, Dr. Harley said he didn't know if it would help with that or not. Bottom line...LOVE the lift!! Not so much the peel.

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Thank you so much for your honest and frank comments about the peel. I had been wondering if it would be worth the down time. I think I will skip the peel. Looking forward to my lift, though! Thanks again!
The peel might be much easier for you...I know some others on here were very pleased with theirs. Good luck with your lift...you'll love it!
I think you look beautiful!! I haven't decided what I am going to do yet but I am so in love with all the Harley Hotties out there I just might have to jump on the bandwagon! I also have orange peel chin too, had milia extracted years ago so that's where mine comes from. I have been using Paula's Choice Clinical 1% retinol, unlike RetinA I can use it daily...just use the RetinA 1x per week because it burns me up too. I have also had the 35% TCA, results were minimal. Thinking fat grafting after I get a mini lift. Women, we are so hard on ourselves, uggh!!! Thanks so much for the update!!
Thank you so much! You won't be sorry if you jump on the bandwagon...everyone that has done it has been thrilled as far as I know of and it really was such an easy recovery. Very natural too...nobody has to know. I've had a couple of girlfriends look a little longer at me but one I know for sure would have said something if she suspected I had done anything major...not a peep. I'll have to look into the Paula's Choice, I think I just have very sensitive skin. We are too hard on ourselves for sure but I'm trying to work on that.
You look fantastic! I feel for you.... I had a chemical peel 10 years ago with a breast lift. Recovering from the peel was worse than the breast lift!
Thank you Cyn.
Thanks so much for your honest assessment of the peel. I just want to make one comment about your mouth: I'm working up the courage to make my appointment with Dr. Harley so I'm a little obsessive (!?!) right now about following results. I don't know everyone's names/aliases but am getting familiar with their photos. Every time I see new post from you, I think - that's the woman with the beautiful lips! When I just read your negative comments about your mouth, I was stunned. Most women would kill to have a natural pout like yours. You look GREAT!
Thank you so much Anne for the wonderful compliment and also for pointing out to me what I'm so quick to point out to others...stop finding fault with my looks. Honestly, it's not something I ever notice in the mirror and I don't notice it in natural photos either that others take of me. It's only in selfies that I see it and it's just another reason why I don't do the selfies. The only selfies of me are up on this site and after I uploaded them on here I deleted them from my phone. I don't need them nor want them. Now work up that courage to make your appt...seriously, it's a much bigger deal in your head then it is actually doing it. I couldn't believe all the effort I put into working up to it and then it was done and not a big deal at all...other than looking like I did 10 years ago again! :-)

Thank you so much for your great updates!

17 days post

Pictures

Ok ladies, here are some pictures from today, about 2 1/2 weeks post op. Hair is a disheveled mess, tinted moisturizer and that's it for makeup. I'm not much on makeup, never have been though looking at these up close pictures makes me think I probably should be. My lips are uneven because of a chicken pox scar at the tip of one side that removed the pigmentation...it's become much more obvious as the years have marched on and I've lost volume. Lip liner works when I remember to use it, filler was a nightmare. I try not to be in the mirror too much yet and I've never been into selfies at all. I see things in each of these pics that concern me/bother me but I don't want to obsess, particularly at this early stage of recovery. I'm really happy with my neck and jowl area...such an improvement! My skin is much better as well though as the swelling has gone down I can see that the orange peel skin has returned around my mouth though it is much improved. All the dark spots I had from sun damage are gone and my crows feet are much softer. If you look closely at some pics you can see the line where Dr. Harley stopped the peel. One side is white and the other red. I think he said he couldn't get too close to the surgery sites so that may be something to consider if you are thinking about a lift/peel combo...he can't cover the entire area on the sides of the face. At the 2 1/2 week mark I'm still very happy with my results.

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Your neck looks really good and I'm sure everything will be just fine in time. My peel did the same where it ended. Took a while to clear up-probably around 6 weeks. From my experience, the drains are put behind the ears. Dr. Harley will probably see your pictures on here, but I would send a copy to Juanita to make sure he knows what is going on. Happy healing- this is definitely a journey, but a very positive one that I have throughly enjoyed thru all the ups and downs.
I agree 100%
Your neck and jawline are absolutely gorgeous!
Thank you Red!
Agreed. Just GORGEOUS!!! Inspiring.
Love your neck your skin looks smoother. It doesn't look like you have too much swelling . Big difference from the before pics .
Thanks Flower, there isn't much swelling left at all. Right about at the 2 week mark it just went away overnight. Good luck with your surgery!
Thank u
You look great! Why are we so self-critical . . . sigh? I would never have even noticed the slight asymmetry in your lips. Your lower face and neck look so youthful. Wonderful!
Thank you Anne. You know, I'm not really very self critical...at least I try not to be. I don't notice my lips in the mirror ever but I see it on photos...but only selfies. In my opinion, selfies don't do any favors for anyone. I ended up sending Dr. Harley a message about the dark areas on my chin and the more I looked at them, I think that's all they are...dark bruises that will just take time to work themselves out.
I wonder why that is. That you see all flaws in selfies but not in the mirror. That's why I hate taking selfies and very very rarely do. I start nit picking. You look great BTW!
Thank you ladies. Idm, I heard from Dr Harley and you're right the drain was behind my ear. I messaged him about the dent/bruise on my chin and will see what he says about it but the more I looked at it, I think it's really just dark shadow bruising from the head wrap and nothing more. I think when my swelling went down it made the bruising more obvious. Funny, the only bruising I had was from the bandage.
Idm625 and Pinkielee...the above msg was in reply to you both but it ended up here.
That head wrap was not fun!!! Thank goodness for the cocktail and pain pills until that thing came off!
How long do you have to wear the head wrap? What kind of head wrap is it?
24 hours...very tight gauze like material to keep swelling down. It dug in under my chin on both sides which was the uncomfortable part of it...I still have bruising and scars from that. Just a necessary evil.