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New Year, New Me ... correcting mistakes of childhood past - Bogota, Colombia
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I am 35 male, 6'3" and have been considering tummy...
kuteguyJanuary 1, 2014
WORTH IT$4,750
I am 35 male, 6'3" and have been considering tummy tuck / lift for almost a decade. There are a lot of people here with experience so would love to hear some feedback. I am one of the few males on here so hoping that other males also join the party.
I was 220lbs as a 15yr old and average height for that age. One summer school holiday, over 6 weeks, I lost over 60lbs [of baby fat] with diet and exercise - lost 10 inches around my waist and gained 10" in height. The fast weight loss, I believe, killed my skin. In my 20s I had lipo, and then two other revisions with another surgeon. Lipo was horrible each time - it made things worse - caused dimples, hanging, asymmerty, etc. I got NO benefits out of it.
I consulted a few surgeons regarding tummy tuck and some are for it while others say I am too borderline and they would not want to cut me up. I ESPECIALLY hate my flanks - it sticks out when I wear tight clothes and I get very self conscious when people put their hand around my waist, some have even commented how soft it is!!
So I needed a surgeon who specialises in extended tummy tuck and even perhaps an inner thigh lift - body lift. And since I am soo tall I worry also that the surgeon will not be able to handle me properly during surgey giving me sub-par results.
The cost (money/scar/time) vs benefit argument. I understand that for many people this might be an easy decision because they feel they DEFINITELY need the surgery. It's because I am borderline that this is a tough decision.
So after 6 years of research and almost non-stop research over the last 3 months, I have decided it is better to JUST DO IT rather than keep thinking about it. I have lived 20 years wanting a better body .. worst case, i will have to spend the next 20 years hating a botched up surgery. Then after that I will be too old to care, I hope.
So I have short-listed three category of surgeons:
1. one specific US based surgeon. His credentials are impeccable, his experience in this sort of surgery extensive, and his cost reasonable. I am surprised to have heard very little of him on RS. I guess the hold up of choosing him is that in US I imagine the doctors will be very conservative with the surgery and lipo. With good reason too, I guess. And the extra cost of after-care as I am alone and non-US based meaning I will have to pay for after-care and hotels for 3 weeks.
2. a Mexican based surgeon - not much of him on here, but he has his own sub-forum at OH. His credentials Mexican (many int'l surgeons also have American certification and/or international plastic surgery certifications). But given the extensive reporting on him at OH I trust he gives good results. In Mexico I like that all costs will be less (he costs the same as doc 1 above but his price also includes 12 days nursed care in a hospital/hotel, transport, medicines, garments, etc).
3. Surgeons in Brazil - the land of the beautiful and surgically enhanced, and now the world #1 ranking of cosmetic surgery per capita! There has been extensive reporting of Brazilian surgeon Ivo Pitanguy - proclaimed by NY Times to have a hand gifted by god. He is surgeon to American stars and models. He is 87 and still practices - charges the same as doc 1. For other brazilian surgeons I have been looking at I have used the criteria that they have to be graduates of Ivo Pitanguy's training AND certified by American and International plastic surgery associations. Brazilian surgeons are not allowed to post before and after pics so that has been the biggest hurdle. It means I will have to go there in their office to see these pics. And ofcourse the language barrier - people in Latin American countries DO NOT SPEAK english and a bit ho-hum about customer and patient service.
Again the biggest draw on Mexico and Brazil is that they will be prepared to push the envelope more than Western surgeons.
I would love some feedback on my post and pics. Sometimes it is hard to think objectively when thinking about something so personal to me. IF you feel I should not have surgery at all then that is fine too - would love to hear all opinions.
I was 220lbs as a 15yr old and average height for that age. One summer school holiday, over 6 weeks, I lost over 60lbs [of baby fat] with diet and exercise - lost 10 inches around my waist and gained 10" in height. The fast weight loss, I believe, killed my skin. In my 20s I had lipo, and then two other revisions with another surgeon. Lipo was horrible each time - it made things worse - caused dimples, hanging, asymmerty, etc. I got NO benefits out of it.
I consulted a few surgeons regarding tummy tuck and some are for it while others say I am too borderline and they would not want to cut me up. I ESPECIALLY hate my flanks - it sticks out when I wear tight clothes and I get very self conscious when people put their hand around my waist, some have even commented how soft it is!!
So I needed a surgeon who specialises in extended tummy tuck and even perhaps an inner thigh lift - body lift. And since I am soo tall I worry also that the surgeon will not be able to handle me properly during surgey giving me sub-par results.
The cost (money/scar/time) vs benefit argument. I understand that for many people this might be an easy decision because they feel they DEFINITELY need the surgery. It's because I am borderline that this is a tough decision.
So after 6 years of research and almost non-stop research over the last 3 months, I have decided it is better to JUST DO IT rather than keep thinking about it. I have lived 20 years wanting a better body .. worst case, i will have to spend the next 20 years hating a botched up surgery. Then after that I will be too old to care, I hope.
So I have short-listed three category of surgeons:
1. one specific US based surgeon. His credentials are impeccable, his experience in this sort of surgery extensive, and his cost reasonable. I am surprised to have heard very little of him on RS. I guess the hold up of choosing him is that in US I imagine the doctors will be very conservative with the surgery and lipo. With good reason too, I guess. And the extra cost of after-care as I am alone and non-US based meaning I will have to pay for after-care and hotels for 3 weeks.
2. a Mexican based surgeon - not much of him on here, but he has his own sub-forum at OH. His credentials Mexican (many int'l surgeons also have American certification and/or international plastic surgery certifications). But given the extensive reporting on him at OH I trust he gives good results. In Mexico I like that all costs will be less (he costs the same as doc 1 above but his price also includes 12 days nursed care in a hospital/hotel, transport, medicines, garments, etc).
3. Surgeons in Brazil - the land of the beautiful and surgically enhanced, and now the world #1 ranking of cosmetic surgery per capita! There has been extensive reporting of Brazilian surgeon Ivo Pitanguy - proclaimed by NY Times to have a hand gifted by god. He is surgeon to American stars and models. He is 87 and still practices - charges the same as doc 1. For other brazilian surgeons I have been looking at I have used the criteria that they have to be graduates of Ivo Pitanguy's training AND certified by American and International plastic surgery associations. Brazilian surgeons are not allowed to post before and after pics so that has been the biggest hurdle. It means I will have to go there in their office to see these pics. And ofcourse the language barrier - people in Latin American countries DO NOT SPEAK english and a bit ho-hum about customer and patient service.
Again the biggest draw on Mexico and Brazil is that they will be prepared to push the envelope more than Western surgeons.
I would love some feedback on my post and pics. Sometimes it is hard to think objectively when thinking about something so personal to me. IF you feel I should not have surgery at all then that is fine too - would love to hear all opinions.
Replies (7)

January 4, 2014
I think that you will benefit from a body lift. How many doctors said you were borderline? Maybe they just don't know how to help you. Other than your tummy and flanks, your body looks quite good. You have nice arm muscles and you have a bit of that V shape that men love.
January 8, 2014
Thanks MBL. Yes hoping my mid section will complement the rest of my body after surgery.
I also agree regarding skill of surgeon. Dare I say in most countries most surgeons performing tummy tuck or body lift are only looking to alleviate patient issues to a manageable level. But it's only a few surgeons, and only in the Americas, that surgeons are now skilled and considerate enough to be beautifying patients.. Not just allowing patients to 'get by' after surgery.

January 8, 2014
I agree that many surgeons' goal is improvement. For my the money I spent (self pay), and now to have incision scars all over my body forever, I wanted dramatic results in return.
January 24, 2014
Hello there. I don't know if you have selected a surgeon or not, but if possible and not to complicate matters, I would like to give you my opinion. My name is Peter Fisher. I am a plastic surgeon in San Antonio who specializes in post massive weight loss body contouring and have done so for 13 years, having been in practice for 24 years. From your history and the photos I see two things.
1. You obviously had liposuction that from what you said historically was poorly performed.
2. It is difficult to tell if you need a lower body lift or not, but to me it looks like APPROPRIATE liposuction of the abdomen, flanks and back should give you an excellent result. Certainly an lower body lift will give you an excellent result as well, but if you don't need the incisions don't do it. Also your recovery will be somewhat easier with suction alone.
Having said this, examining you might lead me to change my mind.
I agree with some of the comments made that at least you should have a phone consultation if not email and best of all personal.
Good luck. I hope all goes well with whatever you choose. Most important is that whatever is done carry out and follow the surgeons post op instructions to the letter.
Peter Fisher M.D.
January 26, 2014
Thanks doctor for taking the time to review my photos and situation. MANY other surgeons have suggested the same via virtual consultations. Unfortunately, after the failed lipo operations I won't go down that route. Also majority of the times the pre and post pics look the same, lipo has only a 75% satisfaction rate on here vs the almost 100% satisfaction of tummy Tuck based operations. But yes horses for courses.
And of course I don't need the incisions that come with a tummy Tuck but I guess its a free gift :-) still considering the best way to proceed and will definitely give it more thought.
January 27, 2014
I thank you for getting back to me. I certainly understand your position and as I said believe you should get an excellent result from a circumferential abdominoplasty. Make sure you see at least 2 to4 surgeons or at least their results. All the best. Good luck with your plans.
UPDATED FROM kuteguy
1 month pre
No surgery needed
kuteguyApril 27, 2014
I saw a few surgeons in person. They included Dr Capella of NJ and Dr Triana of Cali, Colombia who were the front-runners. Hats off to their integrity - they both earnestly advised that tummy tuck will not give me as much benefit as it gives others and their recommendation would be to not get a tummy tuck. So ends this journey. I have removed my pics.
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April 27, 2014
Have a great time in Colombia! Adventure awaits... And those sexy, beautiful Colombian women!
May 24, 2014
Tell you what!! The women are STUNNING here and soooo many of them have had plastic surgery done it is ridiculous. I will write more on it later but in my gym it's basically 100% of women look like they have had some work done - lips, face, b00bs, butt, stomach ... and they LOOK great!!!!! These 50 year olds could give 30 year olds of other countries a good run for their money.

May 24, 2014
I know the women are sexy and gorgeous in Medlin. It is the fashion area of Columbia. Some of the models are becoming Americanized and really losing their sex appeal but if you look at the true Columbian models they are about the most gorgeous and sexy women in the world. I also know that plastic surgery is very popular there and pretty commonplace for the average woman, which is probably why they are so gorgeous! I look forward to reading your post!!! BTW are the men equally gorgeous... Machismo?
UPDATED FROM kuteguy
9 days pre
going ahead with it ...
kuteguyMay 21, 2014
So it did not end there :-)
I spent two months in Colombia - training my a$$ off (personal trainer 5 days a week), eating super healthy, walking 10+kms a day, etc etc. But yet I still had rolls of fat. I decided that I will go ahead with it and will have to live with the regret (but be able to move on atleast) if the tummy tuck is not successful).
So I am no longer going ahead with a body lift but just a tummy tuck (extended/circumferencial) if needed. And lipo all over.
While in Colombia, I saw many doctors (here they charge 100,000 - 150,000 COP for consultations - about $50-75). But I wanted to be 100% sure of what I am doing.
After a lot of surgeon and soul searching, I found the surgeon I am going ahead with - Dr Dario Juris in Bogota Colombia. On paper, he had all the things I was looking for - registered with various Plastic Surgery boards (including Colombia, American, and ISAPS). And then the best part - he is Alumini of Dr. Ivo Pitanguy. I verified all these by going to the various boards/alumini listing.
When I met him in person, I felt very comfortable with his manner, advises, and recommednations. He openly recommended against tummy tuck and suggested with Lipo he can give me great results also. Some other procedures I was wanting to do (laser to face) he said he does do but again said it is not for my case. He was great with answering my questions and he speaks English which was another bonus!!
His secretary, Claudia, has been amazing with answering my questions quickly and providing the info I need. The surgery is quoted as 7,000,000 COP (for the lipo) and 2,500,000 for the tummy tuck (for my particular case - he charges based on what the patient needs, size, etc etc). His quote included:
* one night in the clinic after surgery (great!)
* all other operation fees
* first binder
* medicines needed
With him you do need to get some of the basic blood tests done. When talking about lipo, he offered a variety of anesthesia choices - epidural, general, etc. I was going to go for general. But since I am 99.9% sure that I will be getting a tummy tuck also .. I will be going general anesthesia anyway.
with lipo I think he said he needed me to stay in town for 8-10 days, with general I think it is 14 days. He has recommended
I am trying not to think too much about this but I am very anxious about the operation and taking a leap of faith in Dr Dario Juris (Pretty much everyday of my life since I Was 13 (so 20+ years) I think about how fat I am and how it actually affects my interaction with other people .. and stops me from having a proper intimate relationship as I feel inadquate to meet THE ONE). I think when Dr Dario Juris is marking me up I will make one last request to 'suck me dry'.
I have been on this site pretty much every other day for years ... and want to contribute to it as much as I Can. I have researched quite a bit and will be putting up more details in the near future. You'd be surprised how many people have surgeries here and it's not seen as a big deal. Beauty is important to Colombians and they are not afraid to turn to the knife for assistance ... in return I believe the surgeons have a high standard to live to.
After the surgery, I will give my opinion on why I chose Colombia over USA (and no it was not the cost - the outcome is much more important to me than the cost).
Any tips??
I spent two months in Colombia - training my a$$ off (personal trainer 5 days a week), eating super healthy, walking 10+kms a day, etc etc. But yet I still had rolls of fat. I decided that I will go ahead with it and will have to live with the regret (but be able to move on atleast) if the tummy tuck is not successful).
So I am no longer going ahead with a body lift but just a tummy tuck (extended/circumferencial) if needed. And lipo all over.
While in Colombia, I saw many doctors (here they charge 100,000 - 150,000 COP for consultations - about $50-75). But I wanted to be 100% sure of what I am doing.
After a lot of surgeon and soul searching, I found the surgeon I am going ahead with - Dr Dario Juris in Bogota Colombia. On paper, he had all the things I was looking for - registered with various Plastic Surgery boards (including Colombia, American, and ISAPS). And then the best part - he is Alumini of Dr. Ivo Pitanguy. I verified all these by going to the various boards/alumini listing.
When I met him in person, I felt very comfortable with his manner, advises, and recommednations. He openly recommended against tummy tuck and suggested with Lipo he can give me great results also. Some other procedures I was wanting to do (laser to face) he said he does do but again said it is not for my case. He was great with answering my questions and he speaks English which was another bonus!!
His secretary, Claudia, has been amazing with answering my questions quickly and providing the info I need. The surgery is quoted as 7,000,000 COP (for the lipo) and 2,500,000 for the tummy tuck (for my particular case - he charges based on what the patient needs, size, etc etc). His quote included:
* one night in the clinic after surgery (great!)
* all other operation fees
* first binder
* medicines needed
With him you do need to get some of the basic blood tests done. When talking about lipo, he offered a variety of anesthesia choices - epidural, general, etc. I was going to go for general. But since I am 99.9% sure that I will be getting a tummy tuck also .. I will be going general anesthesia anyway.
with lipo I think he said he needed me to stay in town for 8-10 days, with general I think it is 14 days. He has recommended
I am trying not to think too much about this but I am very anxious about the operation and taking a leap of faith in Dr Dario Juris (Pretty much everyday of my life since I Was 13 (so 20+ years) I think about how fat I am and how it actually affects my interaction with other people .. and stops me from having a proper intimate relationship as I feel inadquate to meet THE ONE). I think when Dr Dario Juris is marking me up I will make one last request to 'suck me dry'.
I have been on this site pretty much every other day for years ... and want to contribute to it as much as I Can. I have researched quite a bit and will be putting up more details in the near future. You'd be surprised how many people have surgeries here and it's not seen as a big deal. Beauty is important to Colombians and they are not afraid to turn to the knife for assistance ... in return I believe the surgeons have a high standard to live to.
After the surgery, I will give my opinion on why I chose Colombia over USA (and no it was not the cost - the outcome is much more important to me than the cost).
Any tips??
Replies (13)
May 21, 2014
Good luck with your surgery, not long now! I hope it all goes well and you have a smooth recovery!

May 22, 2014
I am so happy for you! I know how badly you wanted this. My surgery was scheduled for May 29 but Dr. C and I pushed it out to Fall. So I am jealous that you are getting yours done and I am not!! I also remain jealous that you are in Columbia. I would love to go there. I've been in California for several months and I am going home Sunday. I was a good time! Good luck and I look forward to following your journey.
May 24, 2014
Sorry to hear that ... guess it gives you some more time to read my [hopefullly positive] review in a week's time

May 24, 2014
I look forward to your review! As for me, it was best for me physically to wait until the Fall. My tissues will be healed then as I will be a year out from surgery. But I regret having to now go home with my sad boobies, LOL, as I thought I would be bringing beautiful breasts back home. Ah well, as they say, the best things in life are worth waiting for!

May 23, 2014
Congrats on deciding! I know you were agonizing over it. And yes....the Columbians are world regarded beauty experts. I was very much like you....the cost secondary....the surgeon choice and result were primary. Also like you, I used this site extensively for research....so felt the need to "give back" by posting thoughtful reviews and pics. Best of luck....will be watching! :-).

May 23, 2014
As far as tips post tummy tuck, I loved my medical lift chair recliner rental! Keeps you in a proper position and you can get up and down without assistance. Supplements: arnica Montana.....big believer in it. I had extensive leg lipo and NO bruising! It is a miracle homeopathic. Also for healing protein supplements and even on top of that extra Arginine....5g per day....don't get it in your protein shake though ...capsules...tastes like liquid feet! :-X
May 24, 2014
thanks for that ... yeah been looking around for good protein drinks and BCAAs - double the price here in Colombia vs USA. I bought the makemeheal pre and post recovery vitamin pack and will start on that too.


May 24, 2014
Can't you mail order the BCAAs? I got mine online. I prefer the Xtend (per your recommendation) over the capsules that I took with me while traveling for a few months. BTW I got into running out here along the Cali coastline (spectacular views and weather) and one morning on a whim decided to do a 3k with my daughter and granddaughter. Its a start.

May 24, 2014
PS Glutamine is a very important amino acid for healing and it is not in the BCAAs. It is tasteless in protein drinks, too. Zinc and vitamin C are important, as well, for healing.
May 25, 2014
the cost for mail order was just ridiculous - I will just have to do without some stuff for the first 14 days. After surgery, I plan to supplement with soy protein which has a very good arginine and glutamine (rather glutamic acid) content. Hopefully makemeheal's post surgery vitamins will contain the other required vits and minerals

March 28, 2017
You seem to be in better shape that you were during your pre-op photos so I guess and hope that it is helping you socially and emotionally. Kudos to you for pushing what you wanted.
I know I am late to join the conversation but I see my self in your post and I can feel every bit of emotion spilled into your writing. I grew up as a "fat kid" and as the fat one in the group I am always the "clown" - the happy, jolly - jester in the bunch. I am also in the cross roads in choosing my doctor right now. Nowadays, Doctor's replies are more generic (like yes I or we can do that, but everyone knows that each and everyone is unique so as our goals and desires).
Anyways I hope you are coping well. Your post brought back some emotions and the reasons why I am spending time reading reviews nd asking for quotes from doctors too. Although people say I look better now, the emotional struggle is still there. I am not still as confident as I wish I could be.
The search is still on... but COLOMBIA is making more better impressions than D.R. on me.
I know I am late to join the conversation but I see my self in your post and I can feel every bit of emotion spilled into your writing. I grew up as a "fat kid" and as the fat one in the group I am always the "clown" - the happy, jolly - jester in the bunch. I am also in the cross roads in choosing my doctor right now. Nowadays, Doctor's replies are more generic (like yes I or we can do that, but everyone knows that each and everyone is unique so as our goals and desires).
Anyways I hope you are coping well. Your post brought back some emotions and the reasons why I am spending time reading reviews nd asking for quotes from doctors too. Although people say I look better now, the emotional struggle is still there. I am not still as confident as I wish I could be.
The search is still on... but COLOMBIA is making more better impressions than D.R. on me.
Have you decided whether you're going to go for a Tummy Tuck or for a Body Lift? If you've short listed 3 doctors, I would try and have a consultation (even if by email/phone/Skype), with all 3 of them. That way you can better judge how you feel after interacting with them and if you feel more or less comfortable with any particular doctor. Do your research and make sure they're board certified also. :-)