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All in 4, first stage-I left my teeth & smile in Cancun.

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All in 4, first stage-I left my teeth & smile in Cancun.

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Pjss
$19,000
Because of $, I went to Cancun for a All in 4, which I never could of paid for in the states. Now I fear I've made a huge mistake. Been calling myself a stupid old lady since the surgery. Didn't consider all that could go wrong. Now because of my painful & extra long & expensive first appointment, my anxiety of returning is constantly on my mind with fear & debilitating panic. I'm one month in since surgery. The language barrier was more of a issue than I anticipated. The office knows most words of niceties but when things were difficult, that's when I noticed there was a barrier. The doctor with all the credentials that impressed me saw me only a few times. Seems it's a teaching clinic. (My opinion at this point)
They didn't attach the dentures to the implants, so my heart jumps every time I think of returning for the office to cut/expose the implants & what pain I'll experience. I'm also afraid I will return looking like someone I don't know with my permanent teeth, which I look now with these flopping old people dentures rattling around in my mouth. I'm feeling very sorry for myself, am not sure what answers I'm looking for but if I could offer suggestions to others thinking of Mexico, consider the language barrier, the procedure may not be the same as in the US. What will you do if you have complications, need to stay longer, or worse be hospitalized & your insurance doesn't cover it? Consider a lot more than just the cost difference. I don't think there's a big risk medically with cleanliness but some things are different. No patient confidentiality for one. My phone number & name was given to another male patient who asked for it & contacted me & I was by myself in Cancun. Also where your planning on staying & what to expect. Being on a budget, I was looking for a inexpensive place. If you have any health issues, which I have, don't get a room in a condo like I did. It wasn't conducive for the recovery of my surgery & I lost over $500 because I had to leave after the first night & the person I rented from lied & wouldn't even refund half. From the moment I landed, things didn't go smoothly. I should have gotten back on the plane for home. Can I get my smile back in Cancun? I'm still praying for answers.
Pictures are the day before & 2 days after surgery. I aged 10 years .

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August 19, 2017
How are you feeling today? Have you gone back for your permanent implants yet? You said they did not attach your temporary dentures to your implants, is that correct? Is that normal procedure? It seems all the info I have read on All on 4 implants they attached the temporaries. If they are not attached, how do you chew? I am thinking I will need implants in the future, so I am curious regarding procedures. I will not travel out of the country, as I am not as brave as you. I read way too much news. I sincerely hope that you are feeling better and your bruising has gone away. I wish you the best.
August 19, 2017
I can't edit my post and just realized you only posted yesterday, so some of my questions are not relevant. I was thinking this was posted 27 days ago. I read it wrong. I still hope you are feeling better today! Are those pictures recent, or are they 27 days later?
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August 19, 2017
My pictures are from the 22 of July to around Aug 3. This question about the temporaries not being attached is one of the questions I'm trying to get answered. They placed smaller pins they call "minis" to "snapon" the dentures. Although when they did the impressions it was just 3 days after my surgery & even my tongue was swollen. So as my swelling goes down, I have these what feel like mammoth teeth floating around my mouth that won't snap on in some places. I can only wear the tops & just for appearances. I cannot eat or chew. I'm learning creative things to do with scrambled eggs. LOL Monday I see my local dentist, I'm hoping he'll be able to adjust these dentures to fit better although they seem so big in width as well as too big when I open my mouth there's only enough room for 2 fingers to clear the opening. I feel like a super big sissy & only went to Cancun because both myself & husband are on disability, living on Social Security. So with a small savings we did have, this was my only recourse or wear dentures the remainder of my life & knowing me, I'd get tired of them & stop wearing them. Because of my illness I'm hyper sensitive to changes & even now I'm still experiencing discomfort in my mouth where most say after a week they're fine. Keep in contact with me if you like, I'm trying to decide what to do next, asking experts, my doctor & reading others reviews to make sure this way of doing this All in 4 is normal. I'm thinking I heard my local dentist say it's a old way of doing this, but I'm going to confirm. When I came home from Cancun I couldn't stop crying for days thinking I made a horrible mistake. I visited my dentist so he could review my X-rays & talk a little to me. He even called me in Cancun when I sent him my pictures. He's a great dentist (and I'm one who hates going to dentist, takes anxiety medication to see them), he's just to much money. Around $20,000 to finish what my mouth needs now. Thank you for the comments. Hoping you find someone & have a better experience. Because they took me to a out patient hospital & knocked me out to do my surgery, I think they were pretty rough on me. I have a small mouth & even now my lips still burn from being stretched.
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August 19, 2017
And good health (which is everything) & happiness to you CityGirl70!!!
August 19, 2017
Thank you so much for sharing the truth about Cancun.
August 19, 2017
I am praying for God's glory on your situation.
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August 20, 2017
Thank you Sandy, I'll accept it! :)
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August 20, 2017
Can I say, this is my truth & could change as time goes on. A lot of raw emotions right now that bends my reality. I'm hoping my views will be better in the future.
September 11, 2017
What did you local dentist say after your visit in August?
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September 11, 2017
Not a lot. Told me what it would cost for him to finish this. He was who introduced me to this procedure never hearing about it before. He works with a oral surgeon doing the implants. Because of the cost, I elected to not use them. Mostly he checked to make sure I was healing well. They would only do top first than than bottoms later because how difficult of a surgery it can be. I need scans to see how the implants are doing. But I didn't I had knockoff implants at the time. I told him what was told me. He adjusted the top teeth to not make such a whistling noise. Said the bottom back mini implant is useless. Couldn't do anything with the bottom teeth, they're useless.
August 20, 2017
Where did you go to in Cancun? I was debating on whether to go to cancun or not?
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August 20, 2017
Until I know more about what I'm talking about, I'm holding off with mentioning names. Besides, she has a great reputation in Cancun. :) If you want to send me a email, we can talk private. After talking to my local dentist next week, I'll know more on how my mouth looks & what he thinks. I do want to go back to Cancun under better circumstances, I really liked it there.
August 20, 2017
I dont know how to get your email
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August 20, 2017
Look up implant dentist in Cancun, there's only a few. SHE has a lot of reviews.
August 20, 2017
Can you email me please?
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August 20, 2017
Send me your address
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August 20, 2017
Wait for the end result, that's what counts in the end; you're having discomfort with the temporary dentures but if the implants are implanted the right way (x-ray will show) you will have great end result.
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August 20, 2017
I'm hoping the implants are in right. I just don't want another surgical procedure done. (Guess it's to late for that). I may get another opinion from a implant doctor. I felt like a trapped animal the first time in Cancun. I was at their mercy & I was losing trust in them.
August 21, 2017
It will be ok! I'm 4 months into this process and was bruised and more swollen then you! All you have to do is brush, floss and waterpik is a must! You will be fine! Have no regrets will get my permanents in October. Good luck!
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August 21, 2017
BUT-were your implants buried under your gums after surgery? I'm thinking in 6 months they're going to need to strip my gums open & down to expose them. There's nothing right now for me to floss, water pic but I can hold my teeth in my hand & brush them. I'm horrified about what the future holds & how many more trips I'll need to make & the extended costs I didn't figure into mistakes or do overs. Hoping your teeth look beautiful in the end. Where were yours done?
August 21, 2017
Mine was done in Pittsburgh. No my was not buried, they were attached while in surgery. My costs were much more at 20,000 and go for monthly check ups till my permanents.
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Read my comments under Cancun for more of my thoughts.

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September 6, 2017
how u feeling now?
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September 6, 2017
Physically, I'm healing. My gums are still tender. Mentally, I'm a mess.
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September 6, 2017
Thank you for asking. ;)
January 9, 2019
I’m so sorry this happened to you. I had inquired in Cancún and they seemed very responsive etc. but something told me something in my gut not to do it. I went here in the states and it was $40,000. I tell you I had 26 Teeth removed and I didn’t look anything close to what you look like. I’m only stating this so anyone that reads it will think twice. I went to Clearchoice and it was great for me. It was in Las Vegas. If anyone reading this once to ask questions etc. I would be happy to help. When I was getting ready I was so afraid. I had no one to talk to and if I would’ve had someone like myself that had been through it it would’ve helped a great deal. I sure hope that you’re through most of this agony and you’ll be back to yourself soon. Feel Better!!! I’m sure you’ll be beautiful soon.
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January 9, 2019
Thank you! I am a year into my NEW implants from Dr. Golpa in Vegas also. I live just 45 minutes from there now after living there my whole life. My new reviews are posted as well. Also on FB Dr. Golpa has a video of me before & after his surgery.
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2 months post

G4 surgery?? scared...

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I saw Dr. Golpa yesterday. They did X-rays & a scan, saw his fully equipped lab! He's really nice & spent quite a bit of time with me.
The idea of having surgery again terrifies me but after this nightmare his G4 sounds like dream & day after surgery getting permanent teeth!!! That sounds amazing. (this means removing all my implants for new ones) He's done this many times, even patients who's been to Mexico & had problems. I'm not having problems just not what I asked for.
I look so horrible living with just these top temporary teeth that are tiny in size & look like dated cheap old lady teeth. What's worse is I have to get my drivers license renewed in November!!! Carrying a picture of me for years to remind me of this?? Ugh..
I can't go back to Cancun knowing I may leave with less than what I want my permanent teeth to be. At Dr. Golpa, they'll try to give me my personality back with what my real teeth were like except straight & no overbite. In Cancun? Who knows after this experience. Plus Golpa's teeth are the top of the line, no chipping or breaks.
I have a lot to think about! ????

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September 28, 2017
Go to India