My head is tucked in the picture, but as you can see I don’t have a good natural development due to some bad Orthodontics and mouth breathing - while I want to push natural oral posture as far as I can go, I don’t know how far I can take it. One image is tucked and the other “normal” rest (I know I blocked my eyes in one but can you blame me lol?) I’d love to know what the procedures might be or what surgeons see to shift the bones in the maxilla forward and upswing the mandible - thank you!