I was diagnosed with Thrombophilia last Spring, and while my hematologist cleared me for my BA surgery, he did prescribe me Herapin, 3 shots a day for 6 weeks after surgery to prevent a blood clot, begging day 3 post op. I would have gone for the Lovenox, but my insurance will not cover it. I have never had any blood clots. So, does the Herapin put me at high risk for a hematoma after surgery I have read people should avoid blood thinners post op because of this? Should I ask both doctors this?
Answer: Cosmetic surgery and bleeding disorder
This does not make sense to me. You are at increased risk of forming blood clots so the most dangerous time for you is on the operating room table when you could form clots while under anesthesia. That means when you need it the most you will not be medicated. I have operated on a number of patients cosmetic and reconstructive who took Lovenox before and after surgery and found it to be very safe.
Starting a blood thinner 3 days after surgery can be a disaster. I know of a patient 7 days out from a rhinoplasty who went jogging and had a sudden expanding bleed in the nose. Another a few days out from a facelift bent down to pick up a bar of soap in the shower and one side of the face suddenly swelled up with a bleed and subsequent clot. Now imagine those case scenarios with a blood thinner on board. Even if you say that before the thinner you are hypercoagulable that does not mean you are right on the normal line after taking the thinner because you cannot precisely control the level.
Risking your life because you don't want to pay for Lovenox is not logical because if something bad happens because you did not take it you will be paying a lot more.
My response to your question/post does not represent formal medical advice or constitute a doctor patient relationship. You need to consult with i.e. personally see a board certified plastic surgeon in order to receive a formal evaluation and develop a doctor patient relationship.
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Answer: Cosmetic surgery and bleeding disorder
This does not make sense to me. You are at increased risk of forming blood clots so the most dangerous time for you is on the operating room table when you could form clots while under anesthesia. That means when you need it the most you will not be medicated. I have operated on a number of patients cosmetic and reconstructive who took Lovenox before and after surgery and found it to be very safe.
Starting a blood thinner 3 days after surgery can be a disaster. I know of a patient 7 days out from a rhinoplasty who went jogging and had a sudden expanding bleed in the nose. Another a few days out from a facelift bent down to pick up a bar of soap in the shower and one side of the face suddenly swelled up with a bleed and subsequent clot. Now imagine those case scenarios with a blood thinner on board. Even if you say that before the thinner you are hypercoagulable that does not mean you are right on the normal line after taking the thinner because you cannot precisely control the level.
Risking your life because you don't want to pay for Lovenox is not logical because if something bad happens because you did not take it you will be paying a lot more.
My response to your question/post does not represent formal medical advice or constitute a doctor patient relationship. You need to consult with i.e. personally see a board certified plastic surgeon in order to receive a formal evaluation and develop a doctor patient relationship.
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March 29, 2013
Answer: Thrombophilia
Yes, if you have thrombophilia, you are at significantly higher risks to form a clot in your leg or lung. Preventative treatment with a blood thinner, like heparin or lovenox will minimize this risk, but does increase your risk for bleeding complications.
Think of this from the downside: if you get a pulmonary embolism, it could be fatal. If you get a hematoma around the implant, you'll need a trip back to the operating room. Clearly, in the greater scheme of things, that's a much lesser problem.
Ask your hematologist if wearing SCD's at home (you can rent the machine) with a couple of days of lovenox treatment would be adequate protective treatment.
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March 29, 2013
Answer: Thrombophilia
Yes, if you have thrombophilia, you are at significantly higher risks to form a clot in your leg or lung. Preventative treatment with a blood thinner, like heparin or lovenox will minimize this risk, but does increase your risk for bleeding complications.
Think of this from the downside: if you get a pulmonary embolism, it could be fatal. If you get a hematoma around the implant, you'll need a trip back to the operating room. Clearly, in the greater scheme of things, that's a much lesser problem.
Ask your hematologist if wearing SCD's at home (you can rent the machine) with a couple of days of lovenox treatment would be adequate protective treatment.
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March 29, 2013
Answer: Heparin After Surgery
Yes heparin after surgery will lead to a possible hematoma. I understand that you have been "cleared" for surgeon but as the surgeon I feel I have the right to decide that this surgery is not in your best interest due to the necessary medical treatment that you require. Best wishes.
Dr. ES
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March 29, 2013
Answer: Heparin After Surgery
Yes heparin after surgery will lead to a possible hematoma. I understand that you have been "cleared" for surgeon but as the surgeon I feel I have the right to decide that this surgery is not in your best interest due to the necessary medical treatment that you require. Best wishes.
Dr. ES
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March 30, 2013
Answer: Bleeding after Surgery
Maybe you should not have elective cosmetic surgery. I have had a patient who took aspirin at three days after breast implants. She bled and required blood transfusions. I am very cautious about using anything that can effect normal clotting following surgery. So our patients cannot take Motrin, Aspirin, Vitamin E etc etc for three weeks after surgery. Why not use sequential pumps on your legs to help prevent blood stasis during surgery? After three days when you are up and about the risks for clots should be over. Get another opinion. Other factors to consider are do you smoke or take oral contraceptives.
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March 30, 2013
Answer: Bleeding after Surgery
Maybe you should not have elective cosmetic surgery. I have had a patient who took aspirin at three days after breast implants. She bled and required blood transfusions. I am very cautious about using anything that can effect normal clotting following surgery. So our patients cannot take Motrin, Aspirin, Vitamin E etc etc for three weeks after surgery. Why not use sequential pumps on your legs to help prevent blood stasis during surgery? After three days when you are up and about the risks for clots should be over. Get another opinion. Other factors to consider are do you smoke or take oral contraceptives.
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March 29, 2013
Answer: Risk of post op bleeding with the use of heparin
You are wise to involve your hematologist in the decision making when considering an elective cosmetic surgical procedure. More than likely you will be fine starting heparin 3 days after surgery. During the informed consent process you should be made aware of the increased risk of bleeding and how this complication is handled. Prevention of clotting abnormalities is of prime concern. It is unlikely that your hematologist would have recommended an elective surgery if there was an extremely high risk of a complication. It is just not worth the risk.
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March 29, 2013
Answer: Risk of post op bleeding with the use of heparin
You are wise to involve your hematologist in the decision making when considering an elective cosmetic surgical procedure. More than likely you will be fine starting heparin 3 days after surgery. During the informed consent process you should be made aware of the increased risk of bleeding and how this complication is handled. Prevention of clotting abnormalities is of prime concern. It is unlikely that your hematologist would have recommended an elective surgery if there was an extremely high risk of a complication. It is just not worth the risk.
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