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I had my broken nose fixed aug 10th , 28 days ago...

i had my broken nose fixed aug 10th , 28 days ago , it was an orif , and septoplasty , ryhnoplasty , i wish i left it alone as now the tip looks wierd , my nose still looks slanted to the side , my dr said hed make the nose look great . this is a disaster . i waited 20 years to fix this broken nose and it looks bigger and worse than before . im so upset . and on top of that , my insurance paid 15k in total for procedure ... the last thing i said to the dr before i went in for surgery was ..." this is a one time shot to get this right , dont mess it up " , he said id be very happy ... im so pissed right now i dont know what to say ... after a month shouldnt i see some sort of result from a surgery that caused so much pain and discomfort , the area he cut to open nose up is reconnected wrongly , and now it slants down to right side ... im so upset i dont want to go in public .

I'm so glad to hear that and I'll bet it will continue to look better and better as the days go by!
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Sounds like you're a good guy too. :)
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Thank you
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Today sept 14 35 days post op . Still look same as...

Today sept 14 35 days post op . Still look same as prior post op pics . Wish I didn't do it . Nose looks bigge than before ... 15k spent ... Wow !

@mezak, I totally agree. Some days the swelling will be more than other days. It's a long, drawn out process that requires a lot of patience and it can be frustrating so I understand how Tim's feeling (I had mine a little over 12 wks ago now!). Tip is still swollen and hard and hasn't settled yet.

Tim I hope you're doing okay! Hang in there. I also think your pictures look great and you have such a nice profile too. Imagine how it will look 6 months from now!

Keep us posted!
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Hi . Thanks . I feel like my profile looks terrible . Kinda Karl Malden ish ... I'll try to stay positive ... Thank you so much
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I think it looks pretty good. still looks natural. Remember that it may take up to 9 mo or a year for the swelling at the tip of the nose to be reduced. You will have says where the tip looks bigger and then the next day it looks smaller. The scar tissue is constantly building up and breaking down. Ask your physician is he wants you to tape the tip of your nose..
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At 6 weks now . still same size . not going down...

at 6 weks now . still same size . not going down at all , saw dr. he said it will over time , dr. a cool dude ...so i hesitate to be a jerk to him about it . it is straight but leaning a bit to left , worrisome .. concave on rt side . and still big as the day i went in ... i just dont think he got the message when i went in ... oh welll lesson learned , shouldnt have screwed with it in the first place i guess ...
Tim it will go down. The tip takes the longest, I know it's frustrating. I think what's more frustrating is these doctors don't really tell you point blank "Don't expect your final results until 9 months" or whatever. It will be much longer than just a few weeks for swelling to subside.

They "say" it takes roughly 3 months for the bridge to START setting, another 3 months for the middle section and then ANOTHER 3 for the tip!! That's crazy. So we are looking at 9 months minimum here. Who would have thought that the nose would be so stubborn? ;-)

I really believe that to be true because my tip is STILL hard (and it's been 13 wks now) and my top part is still swelling every now and then but it feels like it's starting to settle now (barely).

Try not to worry yourself or mess with it (unless instructed).

Take care and keep us posted on your progress!
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Here i am at almost 7 weeks ... nothing changed ....

here i am at almost 7 weeks ... nothing changed . size the same or even bigger than when i started . big mistake to do this , wasnt worth the time or healing time and loss of other things i wouldve been doing in life rather than healing . theres no way that swelling is the difference at this point . the dr just didnt do the job right . ive seen others at this point with massive differences on profile .. just lame ...

However , if im wrong and there is more swelling...

however , if im wrong and there is more swelling than i see possible i will re post down the road ... the tip is a little swelled , but the upper bridge feels pretty well healed . very disappointed . when you get your head opened up you go in with certain expectations . this could have turned out well if it were done better . will re post in two months
appreciate your input . not feelin it tho ...thnx ... i mean this is wayyyy off ...
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Ok , 60 days post op , same size as day i went in...

ok , 60 days post op , same size as day i went in , still bent to one side , profile is absolutely un changed , had face ripped open for this , a total waste of my time . honsetly feel like this was just a qucik money making procedure for doc . and my outcome was of no interest ...

Ive seen some responses from people trying to be...

ive seen some responses from people trying to be helpful , which i appreciate . some saying its better to not have too much done , or ill see a difference after 4 months , ... shouldnt i see some sort of difference at 2 months , is my nose going to suddenly stop slanting to the left as it did before , and i certainly didnt go thru having my head ripped open to have 0 results at all , i understand not want to make too much of a difference , but no difference at all is just frustrating , i had to really talk myself into doing this , and i feel like i just got screwed as i was overwhelmingly adament about what i was looking for right up to the moment i went into op , and i just got screwed , its that simple ... i feel like im being a hell of a nice guy not mentioning the docs name for sure ...

And for some to say its easier to do more of a...

and for some to say its easier to do more of a reduction later , how much money am i to spend to get a result i wanted initially , how many times do you want someone to cut your head open , how much downtime in life do you want to spend healing . i wish i didnt do this it honestly looked better before hands down ...

And worst of all , i called my doc last week to...

and worst of all , i called my doc last week to talk to him about my feelings on this , i left a message and got no response whatsoever .
Hi Tim, Id be calling his office and speaking to a live person and telling them you want to speak with the doctor in person. Your not happy with the results and he needs to know this and do something for you. Ive been to my doc 3 times to have my nose worked on and Im still not 100% satisfied. Ive told him this and I guess its all he can do. I dont have the money to go to another doc to see what they would do for me plus I dont want to keep getting my nose worked on either. My nose doesnt look bad but it still isnt how I want it. My tip keeps dropping. I dont know if your doc can fix what you dont like but atleast talking to him will make you feel better. He should be fixing it for free but then again do you want him to? Also, going to another doctor will not be cheap but in the end if your nose is really making you insecure and miserable then the money to pay for a new surgeon who hopefully can fix what the other doc did would be worth it.
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hey kitty thanks for the response again , yeah im just frustarted , im sure by this point id at least see some sort of result i was lookin for , had op aug 10 , now oct 15 . i mean its not even close . thanks for your consideration ...tim
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Hi Tim, Id be calling his office and speaking to a live person and telling them you want to speak with the doctor in person. Your not happy with the results and he needs to know this and do something for you. Ive been to my doc 3 times to have my nose worked on and Im still not 100% satisfied. Ive told him this and I guess its all he can do. I dont have the money to go to another doc to see what they would do for me plus I dont want to keep getting my nose worked on either. My nose doesnt look bad but it still isnt how I want it. My tip keeps dropping. I dont know if your doc can fix what you dont like but atleast talking to him will make you feel better. He should be fixing it for free but then again do you want him to? Also, going to another doctor will not be cheap but in the end if your nose is really making you insecure and miserable then the money to pay for a new surgeon who hopefully can fix what the other doc did would be worth it.
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Pics today . does this look like something thats...

pics today . does this look like something thats gotten better in any way , it is just flat out bent and huge still , huger even , at two months and one week

Honestly if any of you went thru this and this is...

honestly if any of you went thru this and this is what you looked like at two months one week , you be as distressed as myself . i wanted a good profile , a smaller , straighter nose , with the sides to my bridge shrunken down , with the tip made smaller , its to a point now where everyday i can only mock myself for going thru with this . for having my head ripped wide open to be left with a nose bigger maybe than karl malden or jimmy durante . can any dr on this sight honestly say that this is how one of their patients would look like after one of their surgeries at this timeframe ... ive seen before after pics of others . with huge improvements whereas ive had none ... it does look just a tiny tiny tad straighter , but its just a disaster otherwise , for a surgery billed at 15k before insurance reduction , i should look like errol flynn , or someone with a straightened , much smaller nose ... not jimmy durante ... i was really pulling for this doc , as ive stated before , hes a great guy personality wise , hes well educated , has a good reputation , so what happened here ???? i wish i never ever did this

I really believed that with the right dr , i...

i really believed that with the right dr , i couldve vastly improved my appearamce as this is what i was genetically given , so i had such high expectations i feel like my eyes and chin and cheeks hair etc are decent , but i was blessed with a giant nose , i couldnt breathe well thru the right side , it was broken ... i can now breathe better thru the right side , but the appearance is miserably unaltered ... its huge still ...

Also left the dr a message with my concerns last...

also left the dr a message with my concerns last friday the 5th october with no return call , he probably doesnt wanna hear it , i dont know ... i also did my due diligence to make sure all bills were paid as quickly as possible as they have been now completely paid all while feeling let down by results ...

Also after much thought the last few days im not...

also after much thought the last few days im not going to state this docs name , im not in this to defame him , like ive said before i like him personally , it just seems like i have horrible luck ...
In really sorry. I don't think your nose looks bad actually. I think you're quite attractive, lol. But I understand the feeling. My doctor warned me that extensive septoplasty work would make my bridge bigger in my case and so not to do much fussing around in there. You have thick skin too. Not sure if you taped extensively and have had corticosteroid shots to reduce scar tissue, but that us just fine tuning persistent swollen areas. I only saw the one set of photos up. They are taking with inner phone and that gives a fish eye look, and yet you are still handsome. I hope another rhinoplasty specialist can help you. That was a LOT of money!!!
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thank you ...
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Gonna take down pics now and re post in a bit with...

gonna take down pics now and re post in a bit with new pics , i dont even like lookin at em right now , thanks everybody
Tim, I don't think you have horrible luck. This takes a lot of time. Your nose is still healing from the trauma of surgery. It WAS a trauma and it takes so much time. The swelling WILL come down. I mean, is it really possible for the nose to be bigger after a reduction? Unless you got an augmentation! It's still swollen. I think you have to give the middle bridge about 6 months to see the refinement. I am BARELY,BARELY seeing it in mine and I'm at around 4 months in and I'm a woman! Men it might be longer. The skin has to shrink down to fit the new nose. But what concerns me more is that the Dr. hasn't returned your calls. That doesn't sound professional and he should at least return the call and soothe your concerns. You have a right to speak to him. What did he tell you the last time you spoke with him about the swelling? And everyone really does heal differently. Just because someone looks great after two weeks doesn't mean that you or I will. I wish that were true. Gosh do I ever! Also, you may want to cut down on the salt because that (I've read) can really cause more water retention and it may cause more swelling. And too much salt is bad for us anyway. I don't know, it might be worth a try. I agree with all the ladies on here, you are super gorgeous!
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thank you , you r nicwe , i will follow recommendations ... last time i saw him he said " i need to trust him , and it will go down , and he had to put cartilage upon cartilage ... "
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The general advice wrt swelling - takes about 3 months for the upper bridge to settle, another 3 months for the middle bridge, and another 6 months for the bottom third (especially tip) to subside. For guys, it may take longer. I found applying arnica montana cream, taking bromelain pills, drinking pineapple juice, taping the nose and gentle nasal massage (check with your surgeon first before doing the latter 2) helped to bring the swelling down. It is frustrating but be patient ... eat and sleep well (remember to sleep at an angle to minimise swelling) ... helps with your healing. Agree with the other ladies ... you are a handsome guy !
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Here i am at 2 and a half months does this look...

here i am at 2 and a half months does this look like anything was done at all to anbody ??? my profile is huge , even huger ... my point or tip which i liked looks like its been just chopped off ... so pissed ... three before pics and three after pics ...

So tell me folks is this a disaster or what , pre...

so tell me folks is this a disaster or what , pre op pics without a doubt much better , ill say it again wish i didnt do this , tip is now chopped off , no change in profile at all ... front slightly , almost no difference at all slightly straighter . why did i do this . doc didnt listen to anything i requested bridge still wide and bent , i asked for doc to call me on message , his assistant , who is anice lady as is the doc a nice guy calls me back but doc wont call me back , anfd to be honest , when he does im gonna blow up on him im so pissed right now . i had my face ripped open for this ! it was bent to the left before op because it was broken so it looked more beaky from my right side , and right now it looks still bent to left side and still incredibly huge from the right , actually even huger than before ... its all in the pics ...

And if you look at pics from the left it just...

and if you look at pics from the left it just looked so much better pre op , it had strucure and shape and a tip ! now it looks chopped of and wierd ... see pics
Sounds like asianaz gave you good advice. Let us know what happens after you speak to Dr. Holden. If your doctor didn't, or can't now, tell you specifically what he did to your nose, then the eventual outcome is not one you can reasonably approximate, and it's pointless to try. Unfortunately, what you asked for, and what he actually did, may be two different things, and what you need to be interested in now is what he actually did. If he said he did x, y, and z... then be patient and wait for x, y, and z to reveal themselves. Without knowing what he actually did, even Dr. Holden may be reluctant to surmise at this early stage. In addition, if your doc only removed material, and added nothing, then it's obviously impossible to end up with a larger nose, and it must be an extreme case of swelling. Did he add anything to your nose? I thought you posted a few weeks ago something about him saying, "be patient, I had to add cartilage after cartilage." or something to that effect. If he ADDED something, then yes, there will be some aspects of your nose that will be larger than before. Finally, some people are more prone to excessive swelling, which can be influenced by many factors, including diet, elevation of head, etc. I think if it were me (who loves salty food with beer) I would be still sleeping in a half-sitting position, still putting ice on 1x each a.m. and p.m., and still taping my nose... no matter what, because I am very prone to extreme swelling. In the end, the reality is Tim, that either your doctor is a scheister and you're stuck with a do-over... or you are experiencing the worst-case scenario of extended swelling. Nobody has answers for you, cause only time will tell. But forgetting what you asked for, and concentrating on exactly what was done, will give you the best indication of outcome. Good luck to you.
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Thank you for your very considerate input . It is well thought out ... I will follow your advice as its prob the best I could do from here . And maybe your right maybe I'm the greatest dweller in the history of ops ... And yes he did say he added cart ... Maybe he had to to get it to straight ? I don't know .., I just keep lookin at it and see jimmy durante . It's freakin me out ... Cause I feel like I'm a good lookin guy w this huge beak :)
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thing is i dont think the docs a scheister . i just think i have bad luck or somethin. like i said hes a cool dude . he has a great education and reputation thats why i wont ever put his name up as im not in this to defame i just got so bummed i figure itll help me to vent or get some feedback .. im gonna pull my pics now as im just gonne follow some advice . wait . and just deal with it ... thanks again ...
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Nov 14 th , over 3 months past now , finally got...

nov 14 th , over 3 months past now , finally got letter from docs asst . telling me now for the first time that only structural fixes were done and that even though he promised the aesthetic and desired changes , that would have only been done as a " courtesy " as insurance would only cover cost of structural damages , and he just wasnt able to get to it . so even though he promised to fix bump on nose and give me a good profile , and even though he promised to thin down sides of bridge to make it just a bit thinner , only now is he admitting that he did none of these things because it wouldve costed more than my insurance was covering . i had a broken nose and deviated septum , i do breathe better , but my nose is still bent to one side and he promised several times to improve the aesthetic appearance in the process . he promised " no more beak " just as i was walking back to operation room as i pressed him to get it right ... now he has his asst send me a letter telling me it wouldve only been a courtesy which he decided while in the operation not to extend to me . i wouldve gone to another doc if i knew he was just sales pitchin me pre op to get a customer as i still have a bent nose ... now i think the dude is a scumball as before ive always stated the guy seemed cool , or maybe im being impatient , but now i realize there is nothing to wait for , there isnt goin to be an improvement at all to wait for , it will still be huge and beakish ...i basicly got screwed ... funny thing is my spouse is a nurse in the same healthcare system he works in , where word " could " travel fast , so im amazed ... just amazing ... and she sat with me in pre op inteviews with him where he made certain promises . im not makin this stuff up . she was also sitting there in the pre op where the last thing he said to me when i said " get this right , only one chance " , and he smiled an said " no more beak i promise youll have a great profile " ... go figure >>> so thats it for me , there will be nothing more to report on as i know there is nothing to be hopeful for ... take care everybody , thank you for kind words ... be careful everybody , do your research , dont just believe a guy because he has a great education . or he seems like a cool guy ... get all expectations and promises in writing ...
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i was refered by my md , this dr is a nice guy , i like him , but he didnt do what was asked of him , it is very upsetting .

3 out of 5 stars Overall rating
5 out of 5 stars Doctor's bedside manner
5 out of 5 stars Answered my questions
1 out of 5 stars After care follow-up
1 out of 5 stars Time spent with me
1 out of 5 stars Phone or email responsiveness
5 out of 5 stars Staff professionalism & courtesy
5 out of 5 stars Payment process
5 out of 5 stars Wait times
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