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IPL: Bad Idea. Really Bad - Pointe-Claire, QC

Who invented this "advanced technology"?...

Who invented this "advanced technology"? If you want to look years older, have acne-prone skin and discover new wrinkles on your face everyday, then go right ahead and have this treatment. But seriously...save your skin and opt out. Everyone is clammoring for this thing and it's a sham. It basically sucks the color, the life, and the vitality right out of your face. PS: there is ZERO proof in any medical journal that this treatment actually stimulates collagen production. Also, long term effects haven't been studied. All those who've been sucked in might end up with major problems down the road. This experience has pretty much ruined my beauty and my social life.

Just updating my review. It's been about 5...

Just updating my review. It's been about 5 months since my last IPL and I urge people to think very carefully about this before they do it. The aftermath has been a nightmare and I am still dealing with many terrible side effects. Here is a short list of side effects: Fat loss, changed skin texture, micro-scarring, nerve damage to face, facial numbness. This procedure, in my opinion, penetrated too deep and has caused thermal damage to the underlying and outer dermis. Lunchtime procedure my ass!

List Pros & Cons, Advice you can offer others

List Pros & Cons, Advice you can offer others

I was told my skin would be rejuvenated and that...

I was told my skin would be rejuvenated and that there was no risk, no downtime. This proved to be false. The technician who did my procedure was not willing to admit something had gone wrong, when it is quite obvious that something has. When I showed her the micro-scarring that has occurred she claimed this was "dehydration". There is no way that the scars on my face due to IPL are due to dehydration considering I drink plenty of water and follow a very healthy, vitamin-packed diet.

Face still burns, I'm almost one year out from...

Face still burns, I'm almost one year out from this thing. The burning is very difficult to take. Skin looks like an elephant, as you see in the pics. Face is much less plump, skin is less elastic. Total disaster. I am horrified by what has happened to my face! Please think twice before having this done.

Wow is all I can say. I am going to post a few...

Wow is all I can say. I am going to post a few more pictures soon. The skin does not recover from this. It continues to deteriorate. The fat loss is progressive and ongoing. It is soooo soooo sad.

Just to be a bit more specific, I had 2 BBL Sciton...

Just to be a bit more specific, I had 2 BBL Sciton treatments to the face. The first was in Sept. 2009 and the second in Aug. 2010. The settings used the first time: Filter:560; Frequency: 13J, 12ms; Degrees: 16. The second time: Filter:575; Frequency: 11J, 14ms; Degrees: 16.
In the year that followed my first treatment, I noticed less elasticity, more wrinkles, and some minor fat loss. I attributed all this to basic aging. After my 2nd treatment a year later, the fat loss, loss of elasticity and change in skin texture were so rapid and aggressive that it allowed me to put everything together. The IPL treatment is responsible for the unfavorable changes in my skin. I am extremely regretful I ever decided to have this procedure done and urge anyone out there to think very carefully before going ahead with an IPL.

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Unfortunately, I cannot recommend this Dr.'s practice because I was not taken seriously when I returned with complications due to IPL. My skin has been severely damaged but I was told this was due to dehydration. This is just plain insulting. My skin is not dehydrated, it's damaged.

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Natasha.ca 15 Apr 2013
Hi, I have a question for you and I hope that you will answer it. I have had an IPL treatement 3 years ago. Just one very short treatement, cas the girl doing my peeling wanted me to try it. Afterwards I didn't have any problems what so ever and had very good skin until I would say a year ago when I broke out like crazy for no reason all over my cheeks. I went to see a dermatologist in West island,( I am in Montreal too) and she told I had some kind of allergy, gave me a prescription and I was good to go. After using the medication for a month, I was kind of impatient for it to work and I went to see another dermatologist who said I had rosacea which I am still not sure I have. Anyhow, to make long story short, I have exact same skin as u do on your picks. I look exactly the same when I smile and my cheeks are indented. So, I was wondering if you found a good dermatologist in Montreal who was able to telle you WHAT was exactly wrong with your skin and if there is something that could be done for this. I am kind off confused because I dont think that IPL that I did 3 years ago caused exact same damage in my skin that you got after doing the treatement recently. I have to say that I do suffer psychologicaly from my appearence and I would do anything to reverse it. I tried a lot of natural treatements including honey, lemon, apple cider vinegar, lots of different oils(argan, emu, olive, almond etc..) turmeric, flaxseed oil plus the oxygen facial and a lot of others things but nothing seems to work. So I would appreciate a lot if anyone can help me to understand what is going on with my skin and what I should do. Thank you in advance. BTW I am only 32 so you can imagine my desperation....
nicolettalabella 15 Apr 2013
Natasha, if you've done your IPL treatment 3 years ago, I don't think your breakout is due to your IPL since you just broke out for no reason a year ago. I am not from Montreal so I don't know of any good dermatologists there. However, perhaps your diet as well as hormones may have caused you to break out. Stress may also be one of the reasons. I am not 100% sure if natural treatments work that well because I personally find some not as useful as others. Perhaps you can take a look at products like http://www.skinceuticals.com/_us/_en/category/blemish-age-defense.htm For Rosacea, you may want to check out http://www.obagi.com/patients/product-line/rosaclear Re diet and skincare, I like Perricone's suggestions:http://blog.perriconemd.com/losing-the-acne-battle-try-the-dr-perricone-diet-for-clear-skin/
Dojung 15 Apr 2013
Hi Natasha, I am sorry that you are feeling so bad about the changes in your skin. That sucks, And you are so young. I do not know why your skin would start having indentations and marks like in the pic. (BTW, that's not me, but my skin did the same) I believe the lines or indentations that you see in the skin, that are like in the pic here (same ones I have) are from the collagen being destroyed along with (I am speaking of my face) fat atrophy which made the skin sag a bit. If you pull the skin back or stick a finger in the inside of your cheek and poke it out just a bit, the lines will be gone, making me believe that the underlying structure (fat? collagen?) has been messed with. I am not a doc , however if you did not have a problem with the IPL 3 years ago, I am tempted to say it was not from the IPL. My advice to you would be to go to the best (very best) plastic surgeon (who does FACES ONLY) and is knowledgeable about ALL of the lazers, IPLS etc. A dermatologist has some (but limited knowledge) where as a facial plastic surgeon (and I suggest one who also does facial reconstruction, even more knowledge) to take a look at your face and see what they have to say (not because you need surgery, but the more knowledge they have the better). The one I like most, but have not seen yet because I am in Colorado in grad school, is in New York City. Dr. Andrew Jacono. There is also the IPL and Laser damage web site where lots of women have written in giving there thoughts on various docs and ideas about what helped and what didn't. I have not tried the Obaji products but have read lots of post from women who have said it helped. I also want to tell you to get your hormones tested, when are hormones change as in menopause (and I know you are way to young for this) it can change your skin. See where your estrogen is at and your testosterone (used in building collagen). On the mental health side of things I constantly remind myself that all is impermanent and changing. I remind myself that the culture is over the top on its perfectionist ideas of women and how difficult it is to live up to that. There is a great film by Sut Jholly called Killing us Softly. If you get a chance, watch it. maybe you can find it on you tube. I look really bad on cloudy days and sunny days much better. My eyes were hollowed out and I may still opt for surgery, not sure. It has taken me a couple of years to be ok with it (most of the time). But it was hard. I hope that helps. Be kind to yourself. Let me know how it goes. Keeping you in my thoughts.
nicolettalabella 6 Apr 2013
Perhaps you can try Obagi C-RX products for hyperpigmentation? I'd also use Skinceuticals Phlorein RF in the morning to give yourself a bit of antioxidants to boost your skin. I am not sure if you've tried seeing another derm, but if your skin has recovered, maybe you can check out Venus Freeze and use SilkPeel/hydrafacial to exfoliate? I'm only an amateur, but I found the above useful for me.
Dojung 6 Apr 2013
Thanks Nicole, I appreciate your response.
Grace8 1 Feb 2013
Exercise - get blood flowing!! Forget about the circles -- wear glasses - use retin-A and glycol and a good moisturizer and MSM and EXPECT your skin to be better than ever!!!!! We only have so much time on the planet!!
Dojung 4 Feb 2013
What do you think of the obaji products and can you recommend a couple for me to use if you are familiar? MSM is a supplement, correct? Thanks!
Grace8 27 Jan 2013
Hi - I know how you feel -- I had 2 treatments about 3 and4 months ago and have had similar results. I used to have a glow to my skin and always got compliments. Now I have grooves around my eyes that were never there before and large pores. I am devastated. However, I've started using glycolic again- mixing a serum with moisturizer and I think it's helping to return my glow. Give it a try -- I am trying to be hopeful --- maybe even try a slightly cool masque from time to time---- I think it's reversible -- sun damage is reversible but takes time so don't despair about this. I'm trying to accept that the universal powers that be are trying to get my attention and that ultimately I'll be okay-- sounds naive but I have to have hope... Best if luck -- if you're ever in San Francisco maybe we could meet -- would be nice to have someone who understands around--
Dojung 27 Jan 2013
Hi Grace, I am not sure if you were writing to me, but I would love to be of support to you while you go through this and the healing. I am in my early 50's and in graduate school for counseling. When I am done I hope to offer some free counseling to woman who have been damaged by laser/IPL etc. And no I do not think you are naive. You are already ultimately ok. It's just difficult to have someone who is supposed to be helping you look better cause damage. My face was burning for the last couple of days from nerve damage. I took a double the recommended amount of B and double the recommended amount of Gaba, put aloe and Arnica Oil on my face and today I had NO PAIN! I can not tell you how excited I am about that!!!! I am going to keep pampering my face, wear 50 sunblock, eat tons of fruits and veggies and keep the humidifier on high! Best of Luck to you too!!!
Dojung 27 Jan 2013
Grace can you recommend a glycolic and moisturizer? Thanks much!
MarkK1927 30 Dec 2012
My skin looks much like yours in your second picture. I have that same odd texture with deeper orange peel visible on my forehead from a single Fraxel Dual 1927nm procedure over 4 months ago. The damage was immediate and I'm not too sure if it's getting worse or not. I don't have those vertical lines right now though. It seems like those vertical lines are exclusively an IPL thing. When did the lines show up? It seems like they're not visible in your 10 months post picture. Did they appear 1.5 years post? It seems Fraxel and IPL present similar damage. The 1927nm wavelength is an IPL alternative so I wonder if that's why I have the IPL textural atrophy I keep seeing in negative IPL reviews...How are you doing now? Are you recovering at all?
EliMe 12 Oct 2012
I think I was also damaged by IPL. I have Rosacia and have been getting IPL on the butterfly and sometimes my whole face for years now, but the last 2 treatments were REALLY painful and I was left bruised a longtime after ( over 3 days). I didn't notice anything wrong the first 6 months then I noticed my cheeks were sagging a bit, pores were very visible on my cheeks and around my temples I have that odd soft mushy orange peel slightly wrinkly skin (exactly like in KikiLisa cheek pictures). It has gotten worse over time. I had a second (again very painful IPL 2 years later and now I REALLY see changes) I thought I was crazy at first but now I am panicking reading these testimonials. I am only 38, I used to look so young and fresh now i look a LOT older even my undereye circles have gotten darker. It is NOT normal ageing, people say it is but no one ages this fast overnight. I feel sick because this was a medical doctor in a clinic, not a salon, and I was being treated for Rosacia. I don't regret the Rosacia getting treated (butterfly zone) BUT they TOLD me the IPL would have an added anti ageing benefit and I figured why not get the whole face done at the same time... Will Retin-A help firm my skin again?? The damage is done I know that, but can it somewhat be fixed? God I am so upset, I always took care of my skin, never went in the sun, never smoked or drank and this happened. I could just cry, a womans skin is her identity and I look tired all the time now and I am scared more changes will happen over time.
ajapel 2 Sep 2012

Nothing has worked for me either and my skin gets worse still at nearly 10 months out. I did hyperbaric for 12 times. No improvement. The hyperbarics doc told me that I should see some improvement within that time and not to waste more money if I didn't have any. so here I am. Stem cell? Do you mean fat transfer?

Matinee 16 Apr 2013
I thought it was stem cell where the doc lipo's your abdomen, separates the rich stem cells, then injects that into your face. As for hyperbarics, I need to go as I have nerve damage, an annihilation of my oil, sweat & sebaceous glands and no longer have heat & cold receptors and low dose radiation poisoning...all of which have been diagnosed. Was told hyperbarics would help to heal, especially the nerve damage. As well, makeup and tinted moisturizer no longer adhere to my skin and if that's the case, sunscreen probably doesn't work either...
ajapel 16 Apr 2013
From what I have read, they cannot separate the stem cells and the process of obtaining the fat cells is apparently pretty traumatic so the fat cells, stem cells etc may not survive. How did you get the low dose radiation poisoning diagnosed? Hyperbarics didn't work for me but I hope it well help you.
Dojung 16 Apr 2013
Hi Matinee, I had nerve damage as well. I am two years out and most of the nerve tingling and soreness has gone, but it has taken this long. I was scared that it would never go away and was more worried about that then my looks. How or who did you go to (what type of doc) to diagnose the annihilation of oil, sweat and sebaceous glands? No matter how much I moisturize it doesn't seem to make a difference. Can you tell me a little bit about hyperbarics and where I might find that. I live in Colorado. Thanks!
Matinee 16 Apr 2013
The hyperbarics doc that I went to said that I had low dose radiation poisoning just by looking at my skin. He treats cancer patients on a daily bases who have radiation poisoning from their treatments.
Matinee 16 Apr 2013
One of the MANY dermatologists that I went to confirmed I had no sebaceous glands. My face doesn't sweat, no matter what and my skin is chronically dry. I'm constantly applying oils and lotions. I haven't had a pimple, black or whitehead in 3 yrs. Here is one link to help you understand about hyperbarics and what it can do for you: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hyperbaric-oxygen-therapy/MY00829
ajapel 16 Apr 2013
wow. Can I ask what city? I may have to research radiation poisoning.
Matinee 16 Apr 2013
I'm in Alberta, Canada
ajapel 16 Apr 2013
Wow. I did a little bit of research. These treatments cause a thermal injury versus a radiation injury. I'm wondering if the symptoms are similar in general. From what I can tell, heat and radiation damage tissues in similar ways. Ionizing adiation injuries are far worse. My skin still sweats in some areas but is full of little blood vessels and there is an obvious loss of subcutaneous fat tissue which is a known complication of radiofrequency treatments. I hope for more research into the damaging effects these treatments can cause. Sadly the money for research is mostly from the laser companies or for new studies, not complications.
Dojung 26 Apr 2013
it's called FAMI and there is a guy in London/Spain (possibly LA) who does this. Search for London fami clinic on the internet. The doctors name is Roger Amar.
Matinee 2 Sep 2012
KikiLisa...my skin is like yours and 2 1/2 yrs later the damages are still ongoing. Has anything or anyone at all helped you? I've researched steadily and no matter what I use or take or do, nothing seems to work. No derm or other specialist seems to be able to help. The only conclusions I've come up with so far are hyperbarics (at least 44 treatments) and stem cell, neither of which I could afford. Have you seen a naturopath?
DanielleB 15 May 2012
Honestly, I just cannot believe that happened to your face! Where are you guys getting these treatments?? That's so so horrible. I'm so sorry that you're going through that but IPL is a godsend. It's made my complexion like a newborn baby's. I really want to know where you're getting these treatments. It's perplexing. I hope at least you got your money back and some product to cool your inflammation. :(
msty 2 Sep 2012
I thnk everyones results are different .mayb if u continue with those ipl's ull probobly end up with some damage.it is basically heating up ur skin . Im glad that people from this site help us understand the two sides of what can happen.

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