Stay Away from Him,he Lacks of Skills. - Bellevue, WA

Hi Ronni Your face before the transfer was narrow and heart-shaped but it became rounded. This is a major disfiguration. Also fat transfer for the purpose of acne scars should be localized to the scar itself (used as a filler) to resurface the scar. Doing your whole face sound unreasonable. Despite the disfigured face you half, I doubt your scars are corrected now. I wonder if Dr. Young can defend what he did in your case and write here. Otherwise, he would be dishonest and aimed at money collection.

Look for experience. Dr. Young might be motivated and talented in his field but he lacks experience that comes with years. He is a newly graduate. I would pick up a surgeon with years (+10) of experience.

My acne scars were better than before ,this is true that I have to admit, but be honest,I rather go to hell but not having a balloon face like this.Speaking of revision,I just want to warn others don't go to his office to do any revision.Dr Young is nice and has a polite manner but he would'nt tell you any risks of any procedure,when the procedure done he would tell you to be patient for a long terms waitting even his work don't gave you any improvment,and he doesn't even have courage to admit it.I bet he done a lot of lousy job for others.Anyway,the purpose of I wrote this review is that I want to warn people about his bad works before get a disaster.He's very dangerous with his shaky hands.

Realselfrealself do you mind that I ask you what kind of procedure has Dr Young done to you face?

This is appalling.... Why would you inject 20cc's to correct a few pitted scars. Even if you account for some of the fat resorption that is still a ridiculous amount to inject someone for minor defects. This really calls into question this doctor's judgement and technical skill. I am also alarmed at the copy and paste responses to all the negative reviews. I also noticed that many of Dr. Young's responses were removed for not following community guidelines. This is indeed very disturbing information.

amimjgner I want to figure it out either,perhaps in his opinion he thought his face is the standards of facial beauty,that's why he follow this principle to injecting fat to other's face without any discussion to patients,though that's not what we want it to be.

I don't want to make any judgement about his theory on beauty,I'm not that professional and I'm not saying fat transfer is not a good procedure.In fact,if fat grafting is done conservatively and in the proper dept, the results are good,but if injected too much you will ended up with a bloated balloon face,just like me.Therefore Dr Young has no aesthetic eye,that's definitely correct.

Exactly Ronnie - there are fillers which are designed to fill in skin depressions like scars or lines but fat isn't right for this. Fat actually looks terrible when injected too superficially - with my fat graft the doctor injected all of it ontop of my skin when I had wanted 'volume". It took me a while to realise what was wrong, but the main thing is that it isn't in the proper depth so I have lumps on top of my face rather than fullness underneath the skin. Can you imagine wanting a cheek augmentation and finding the cheeks were just lumps stuck on your face! My temples look similar to yours. I read that there is a "stem cell theory" that injecting fat makes your skin glow and can cure acne scars, but this is not scientifically proven to work. Maybe this was your dr's theory behind the fat injections. However, that being said, the Dr should've told you that his method of fat injection would puff out the face and change the way you look drastically! Clearly you thought you were going for a skin treatment not a major alteration?

I'm going to have a revision with another surgeon,I don't trust Dr Philip Young.You can check my previous post to see the photo."Excessively chubby cheeks after fat grafting with injection"

Glad you going to get it fixed and good luck on round 2 ;D

Thank you Cakebythepound.Are you one of Dr Young's patient?

No still researching different procedures. After your review he's not an option

ronniewan, I just saw your pictures. My face look just like your, my left cheek and left side is bigger than my right side. Worse is my lower face is to big now and around the smile line is to much fat. I had many times thinking to to get my buccal fat remove. Dr. Young, he is not lack of experience. He is lack of aesthetic eye. I give him 10 year more, his work is not any better. I had my done 3 year and 3 months, and he still said I look good, I look young. Ronni you're look good before your surgery. Good luck finding doctor who can fix your face. Please let know If you find a good doctor. Thanks emvicky21

emvicky21,I'm sorry we had bad luck to choose Dr Young,I can feel your pain.I went to his office to do liposution 3 month ago,he said the same thing to me,he said I look young,I look good,if I take out the fat I'm going to look old,what a liar,he donsn't even want to admit his terrible skill and I still can not understand why he put so much fat into my face,it should be do it like a spot injection for my particular case.Dr Young doesn't care about that,he aim at money collection,he's very dangerous in the operating room.I think you should consider revision with liposution first,if not successful then a facelift is needed.I'm going to have lipo again with another surgeon 3 month later,if it works I will let you know,wait for my news.Good luck.

Ronni, this doctor is hungry for money and he doesn't know what is look good. He turns good looking face into ugly face. Yes he's a liar, he think everybody stupid. Good luck ronni I prayed for you for you'll get your before surgery face back. Thanks emvicky21

Why not finding Dr. reid Sheftall..he is the best in face lifting...he was invited to Cambodia to do the burn surgery for kids...i ever wait for his surgery to Australian and she looks younger...just call him through whatsapp and ask for his medical advise

Almost 4 years although it getting better still I'm not happy. My face still uneven.

Have you considered doing bodybuilding cycles? Let me explain: All this is a fat issue. Bodybuilding means being for example 6 months gaining muscle, and it means inevitably gaining fat aswell. You gain both, but more muscle than fat if you do it correctly. After these 6 months you can cut, you will lose more fat and less muscle (Its one of the most usual way to go for a bodybuilder). You can keep repeating it, a gaining muscle cycle (with some fat involved) and cut again. That should make you changes in your face, plus you will get a better body, a better health, with better blood irrigation, younger skin... I dont know but i think its worth the try. Always comes all I told you to my mind when I see these kind of situations

Your post is offensive and totally not helpful to the patient.

I agree with mfan17.

Hi notsogood, would you please give me your eye surgeon name and phone number. My fat transfer has been over 3 year too. The big lumps on my upper eyelid is still there. Thanks emvicky21

notsogood thank you for recommended Dr Lambros.I'm not sure about if lipo again would reduce my cheek since I've already had one with on improvment.From what I read fat grat usually encase scar,it's very difficult to suction out,I'm considering to get facelift incision to directly cut it out and "reshaping" of the face to improve the overall appearance.Did you get any lipo yet?You should try lipo first though.

Sorry Emvicky21...I would be more than happy to do that except he has stopped taking patients for FT revisions. He got so overwhelmed with FT patients that he was spending too much time doing that and had no time left for his regular patients. In his words: "I'm really tired of fixing other doctor's messes. Its so hard having to explain to people that even with my best efforts, I can't really get them back to where they were before...I can improve the situation, but not reverse it". I know that sounds harsh, but I did appreciate his honesty...something that I didn't get from my original surgeon. He did help me & I don't regret making the effort, but he wasn't able to fix my eyes completely. I did know that going in, so I was fine with "improved". I know that a couple of people have tried to get him to change his mind, but were unsuccessful. Dr Hoenig has stopped doing revisions as well. You might consider consulting with Guy Massry, also an eye specialist in Beverly Hills, CA. I know he is still taking FT revision patients. Really sorry I can't be more helpful.

Thank you notsogood, I totally understand. I have a good Ophthalmic Plastic Surgeon in Beverly Hills his name is Dr. Michael J. Groth did a really good job for my eyes (almost 10 year ago). He is expensive and I have to travel and have to stay in the hotel for 7 days after surgery. So I was hoping to find a good local doctor like dr. Groth. And that the reason why I never have my lump remove yet. If someone live in Southern California I recommend dr. Groth

Ronniewan, no I haven't done liposuction myself, at least not yet. The fullness has gone down enough now where I feel I can probably live with it rather than going thru yet another procedure. I had to pick the problem area that bothered me the most, and that was my eyes. I live in Hawaii, so the cost of going to the mainland yet again for additional treatments is more than I can afford right now. I've spent close to $30,000 to date just getting my eyes fixed (that includes hotels, airfare, several consultations, the procedure & follow ups). It took almost a year to fully heal after the eye surgery & at this point, I think I'm just worn out from the whole experience. So I'm taking a break from doing anything else for awhile. So much time wasted on this already. I believe, however, that having micro lipo done successfully depends on the skill of the doctor who does it. It sounds like Dr. Lambros has been more successful with lipo than other doctors. I wouldn't give up on the lipo option based on your experience with Dr. Young. Given the number of complaints I've seen here on his work, I would guess he is not qualified for the task. I certainly wouldn't go back to my original doctor who messed me up by overfilling. I wouldn't trust him ever again after the disaster he left me with. Apparently, Dr Lambros has more experience with lipo and is simply just good at it. Perhaps you could send "ashley2929" a private message & ask her about her firsthand experience with Lambros. He may be able to help you without having to resort to the risk & expense of a surgical procedure. Just a suggestion. I truly understand what you are going thru & I know how upsetting and stressful this whole ordeal can be. Whatever you decide, I wish you the best of luck & that this will all be resolved for you in the near future.

emvicky21. Haha...guess who my doctor was? Yep, same guy!!! Since you are already a former patient, I'm pretty sure he will take you. So you are in luck. But he definitely has stopped taking new patients, so he will ask you not to recommend him for revisions, just new surgeries.

Notsogood you live in Hawaii I thought you live in Seattle. My first fat transfer was done in Hawaii with dr. Bao Phan He did a great job. Honest doctor reasonable price only injected where I need it.

I can't believe he is your doctor too. He is the best. 10 year ago after I had a skin and fat removed from my upper eyelid and lower eyelid the resulted came out bad. I went to see many doctor in Hawaii and everyone said it impossible to fix. And I found dr. Groth and be able to fixed it for me.

Afte a bad eye surgery. I really don't want to do anything with my eye. I don't want to trust any doctor accept dr. Groth. That how I feel about dr. Groth I'm so so lucky that I found him.

emvicky21...I had my FT done in Beverly Hills by Fadi Chahin (see my review). Total disaster. Wish I would have known about Dr. Phan, but I'm not sure it would have worked out for me anyway. I think fat transfer in general is just too risky, and once it goes bad, its nearly impossible to fix. I would never try it again. I wish I had just stuck with the temp fillers. In the long run, I would have saved money & looked great.

emvicky21...so funny that we ended up talking about the same guy. He's a really good doc and I feel lucky I found him before he stopped doing revisions. I got turned away by other docs too that said they couldn't help me. Was so glad he was willing to try. I know you were trying to find someone closer, but you might be better off making the trip. Be sure to tell the receptionist you are a former patient, otherwise they won't let you make an appt for a revision.

Me too emvicky, me too. I wish he worked on the rest of the face, but he restricts his surgeries to eyes only. I don't know if that was always the case, but that is all he will do now.

It's true what you're saying about FT. Dr. Bao Phan did an amazing job the first time for me but it only last about 1 year. Then dr. Young in Seattle overfilled my face. It took 3 years before I can feel a little better about my face. I will not have FT anymore in my life. You are right, fixing is very difficult there is no guarantee. That's why I choose to wait and not try to fix.

Dr. Groth is always do eye only and brow lift. I need a brow lift and I hope I will safe enough money to go see dr. Groth or I will not do anything to it.

I will not do anything with that lump right now. I will safe money to go see dr. Groth for brow lift and upper lid skin removed. Then have him to remove the lump at that time.

notsogood, 6 months ago i had fat grafting to upper cheeks. It was not much (1,5 cc left, 1 cc right) but i´m still very swollen, and i don´t now how to fix it too. I can feel the swollen muscle. If Dr would inject 40ccs to my face, i think i would not want to live. I think you´re strong woman

Sounds like a good plan emvicky. Got my fingers crossed for you...hope all goes well.

Attila, believe me its been a difficult 3 years. Dreadful. The first year, I would rarely leave the house & I wore huge sunglasses 24/7 to hide behind. It was awful. It's better now after 3 years, but I still don't feel or look like my former self. Its only been 6 months for you, so you will likely lose quite a bit of the fat over the next 6 months. With just 1 to 1.5 cc, you should be fine if you just wait it out. I doubt you will need to do anything, but wait a full year to see how it looks. Very unlikely you will have any left at that point, but if you do, I bet just some minor micro-lipo suction should take care of any residual. I know the waiting is horrible, but you should end up just fine.

notsogood, i hope the fat will absorbed. At first he wanted to inject 10 cc´s, but i have stopped the treatment, because i thought he will centrifug the fat, but he didn´t. He injected the fat as a ball without distribute that. I have read here that only 3%-25% of fat alive after liposuction, do you think that is true? do you remember how many cc´s was injected in your upper cheeks?

Hi Ronniewan, are you in your 20s or 30s? I was recommended this face lift incision ages ago but of course too scared to do it at my age.

A coupld of PS have told me that the number of cells that stay alive depends on the how well the doc injects and where the fat is taken from. And it varies from person to person. But I'm not convinced anyone really knows for sure. I don't know how many cc's he put just in my upper cheeks, but it was 40cc's in total. To me it looks like most of it went in my upper and lower cheeks. The rest around my eyes & nabial folds. Very little in the jaw area, none in the lips or forehead. The only place I really needed or wanted it was in the nabial folds...and that was the first to disappear. So the folds ended up looking much worse because of too much in the cheeks. They are supposed to centrifuge the fat so it has less risk of lumping.

Thank you!

notsogood Thank you so much for your suggestion.I will definitely try lipo again,facelift is my final option if lipo won't work.I've read that post about Dr Lambros,I now considering have a consultation with Dr Lambros.Again,thank you very much.Good luck.

Hi Unoq,I'm 28,it's too much burden to have facelift scars,but I think it's the final opition if lipo won't work.I went to Dr Richard W Fleming in Beverly Hills,he told me if the fat injected superficially it can be removed,if it's in the muscle it can't be removed,even using open surgically and I had a some thing like X Ray to check where the fat injected,( I forgot how to say it in English) the fat in the cheeks is superfical but on the temple area is deeper.So I now have two option 1.Have liposution to face to reduce volume then have some steroids inection to my temple areas (since these area may liposuction my not work.) 2.Have a facelift procedure to evenly remove the fat from face and shape away all the lump on my temple areas.Facelift may be the most effective procedure to evenly remove the fat but the scars is too much to be a burden,but I'd rather have the scars but not have the moon face.However,I think you should try liposuciton first,and very dilute steroids for the lumps to see how they work,start with the most nonivasive way first.

Ronni, do you live in Seattle? Is dr. Lambros's office in Seattle? If liposuction work for your face, I want to lipo my face too. Our face look exactly the same.

attila143,I think 1.5 and 1 cc is fine ,I have 20cc in total,I wish I have the same amount as you did.

Hi, I had fat grafting done on my cheeks 10 years ago. The doctor overfilled my face also. I'm pretty sure he didn't really specialize in this procedure. For the last 10 years I've been walking around looking like a chipmunk. The fat was permanent. I spoke to a few doctors over the years, but they said there was nothing that could really be done without causing more problems. I just learned of a new procedure called ThermiRf. I had the procedure done on Friday and today is Monday and still very swollen. ThermiRf is minimally invasive. It melts the fat and tightens the skin at the same time but it takes a few weeks to see the improvement because your body slowly disposes of the fat. I will let you know if it works. I've waited 10 years hoping something new would come out that would help, and I sure hope this is it.

Thank you Sammiboe2 for letting us know about this procedure. Keep us posted on your progress. Really hope this goes well for you.

Thanks Sammi can't wait to hear from you. I hope this will work for you.

sammiboe2,Thank you very much for telling me this,I did some research about the procedure you had,the ThermiRF is actually laser liposution,it uses laserliposis to melt the fat away.I too had a consultation last Friday,I also been told by that suregon laser lipo would accomlish this issue better,have you heard Acclift?It's also laser lipo machine that melt the fat away and tigntenling the skin,it's supoosed to be very effective to dealing with fat.However,please let us know how's your result going,keep us updated,Good luck. :)

I'm not sure if they have ever used the thermirf to dissolve injected fat or not. I may be the first. Actually, there were a couple of doctors who advised against the facial lipo. Not sure if they are exactly the same. Today is my 4th day and so far most of the swelling has gone down. Except the areas on both cheeks where I had the fat injected, and also had quite a bit of scar tissue from the fat grafting that had to be broken up, are raised and the tissue underneath feels a little hard and tight. Not going down as quickly as the rest of the lower face (jowls). The doctor did warn me that it would take a week or maybe a little longer for all the swelling to go down. Like any other procedure you have to be patient. Everybody heals differently. I've always been a slow healer. I just don' want to have to go back to work on Monday looking like I have 2 golf balls in my mouth. LOL! I will keep you posted.

Hello, It has been 2 months since your procedure. Please let us know if it worked. Thanks!

hi sammiboe, can u post some pics for pre and post thermirf? or, tell us what kind of results did you get, is it worth doing it?