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Not happy with result , London, GB
UPDATED FROM Starbuck10
1 year post
Second opinion with Lucian Ion
Starbuck10November 20, 2016
$10,496
So I went to see Lucian Ion back in August for a second opinion about the scar tissue bumps. He said it felt too hard to be scar tissue, and he thought that when my nose was reduced the cartilage made a fold and instead of this being trimmed down, the cartilage was left which is why it now sticks out, creating the bump appearance. He said more cartilage needs to be trimmed to remove the bump appearance. He said he can do this for me, a minor revision costing £2k including hospital fees. He said I should speak to my surgeon about it first, as Matti might do the revision for free. I'm not sure what to do, sadly it's not just the bump that's my only concern. My nose doesn't represent the morphs I did with Matti, and I also have some cartilage that stick out the bottom of my nose, and my nose also bends slightly to the right. My nose also feels constantly tight and uncomfortable on the right side. Perhaps I just got unlucky. Ion did mention that no surgeon has a 100% success rate and some patients will need revisions, but I do also feel one too many things went wrong. If it was just one thing, I'd consider Matti for a revision, but because there are multiple things, that concerns me. I'm not sure it would be good judgement on my part to go ahead with a revision with Matti, and I've had at least 3 people warn me not to as they've had bad experiences with Matti.
I didn't discuss changing the shape of my nose in the consultation with Ion, I only discussed removing the bumps, I'm not sure why I didn't bring it up, just felt kinda spaced out in the consultation at the thought of having more surgery. I was kinda worried talking about the problems I have with my nose, thought I possibly might cry.. So my boyfriend did most the talking for me bless him, I did cry a bit in the waiting room when it was just me and my boyfriend. I think the thought of having to have surgery again to fix my problems, and just the whole ordeal this experience has been just got to me.
I have emailed Lucian Ion since, asking whether or not he can improve the shape of my nose, and he thinks he can help improve the shape with some grafts. I want to consider this carefully, I do want to improve the appearance of my nose, but nervous about the risks of surgery again. A good result can never be 100% guaranteed. When I'm back in the U.K I plan to book another consultation with Ion to discuss improving the shape and hopefully get some morphs done. If I decide to go ahead with a revision, I think I feel most confident with Lucion Ion at this point.
I didn't discuss changing the shape of my nose in the consultation with Ion, I only discussed removing the bumps, I'm not sure why I didn't bring it up, just felt kinda spaced out in the consultation at the thought of having more surgery. I was kinda worried talking about the problems I have with my nose, thought I possibly might cry.. So my boyfriend did most the talking for me bless him, I did cry a bit in the waiting room when it was just me and my boyfriend. I think the thought of having to have surgery again to fix my problems, and just the whole ordeal this experience has been just got to me.
I have emailed Lucian Ion since, asking whether or not he can improve the shape of my nose, and he thinks he can help improve the shape with some grafts. I want to consider this carefully, I do want to improve the appearance of my nose, but nervous about the risks of surgery again. A good result can never be 100% guaranteed. When I'm back in the U.K I plan to book another consultation with Ion to discuss improving the shape and hopefully get some morphs done. If I decide to go ahead with a revision, I think I feel most confident with Lucion Ion at this point.
UPDATED FROM Starbuck10
1 year post
Need some help and advice :(
Starbuck10January 29, 2016
I feel my nose has actually gotten worse after surgery.
What would you do, get a revision with a better surgeon, or live with the mistake? Anyone know any reliable, trustworthy, good revision specialists? I'm considering Lucion Ion, and vladimir grigoryants at the moment.
I feel gutted :(
What would you do, get a revision with a better surgeon, or live with the mistake? Anyone know any reliable, trustworthy, good revision specialists? I'm considering Lucion Ion, and vladimir grigoryants at the moment.
I feel gutted :(
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January 29, 2016
be very careful as out of desperation you can make a mistake. Get the best of the best and hopefully it will get better. As long as your health is good you will be fine in the long run
January 31, 2016
You are right, I'll make sure I consider all options carefully. I don't want to rush into surgery without having full confidence in my revision surgeon. If I can't find that confidence, I won't be touching it again.
January 29, 2016
Hi :) ive been looking at revision specialists. Richard davis florida (hes booked out for 1 year so he must be good), andrew frankel, thomas le baltimore (see this one https://www.realself.com/review/rhinoplasty-nyc), i was thinking about raj konodia who does celebrity noses as well. Just some options.
January 29, 2016
Thanks catreal, I'll look into those doctors. If I decide to have surgery again, I definitely want to do plenty of research and hopefully get it right next time.
January 30, 2016
No worries. By the way I consulted with Dr grigoryants for my primary and there were a lot of things he said he couldn't do. For example improving my nostril assymetry. My strategy is to narrow it down to surgeons who can do the most complex techniques, it makes me feel like they will have a better chance of success!
January 31, 2016
Sounds like a wise strategy :) let's hope we both have a more successful experience next time round!
January 29, 2016
Its worth a consultation with Lucian ion considering his revision rhinoplasty results
January 29, 2016
Yeah I've seen some great results by Lucian Ion, a lot of his patients on this site speak highly of him. I have a consultation booked :)

January 30, 2016
I am so sorry dear for this pain. I will do my surgery with Dr. Julian De Silva.. I choose him after reading all positive reviews about him in different websites. I couldn't find a single bad review about him. My surgery is next Thursday. I am so scared because I am asking myself are you sure you will get the results you wanted? What if not? What would you do?
My doctor has a great reputation so will update you with my experience. You may consider him in the future . Good luck
My doctor has a great reputation so will update you with my experience. You may consider him in the future . Good luck
January 31, 2016
Good luck for next Thursday Amal! I've heard good things about Julian De Silva, so fingers crossed you get a beautiful result. And yes, please do let me know how it goes! I'll be thinking of you next Thursday, wishing you all the best! :)

February 4, 2016
I'm sorry you are feeling so horrible... I'm really confused by the 3 pics posted-- your nose is flawless!!! Can you post befor pics as comparison?
May 27, 2016
Perhaps the photos don't show it up enough, but I have hard scar tissue bump above my left nostril that purtrudes and looks very unnatural in certain light, my nose also doesn't represent the morphs we did, I'm just gutted my surgeon didn't listen to me a bit closer, if he hadn't tilted my nose up, or decreased the projection, I would be a lot more happier.
UPDATED FROM Starbuck10
1 year post
Unhappy and feeling sad and low
Starbuck10January 29, 2016
https://www.realself.com/question/united-kingdom-gb-revision-achieve-after-photo-morphs
I asked some other surgeons about my nose problems and one described it as "poor work". I feel disappointed by this, but was kinda expecting it. I don't understand why my surgeon made out everything was fine. I don't feel I can trust him anymore, especially after talking to some other unhappy Matti patients. The scar tissue lump forming on my bridge is getting worse, the injection has done nothing so far to improve the large scar tissue on the left side of my nose, another doctor said I should have been given the steroid injections much earlier, I mentioned my concerns to my surgeon at my 6 weeks post op, but he just said it was swelling and would go away.... I also think the skin hasn't shrunk around my nose very well as it was reduced too much, my nose lacks definition. I want to get my projection back, I feel this was taken from me and I emphasised my desire for a minor change so much. I regret this decision. I feel a fool for ever deciding to do this. I was definitely happier before this experience. I know my nose was far from perfect before, but I preferred it to the nose I have now. I hate noses that lack projection, and I now have one... I have just swapped some problems for plenty more, and I paid £7k to do it...
Not many people seem to have as much scar tissue as I do, another doctor described it as "unusual". I told my surgeon that I experience neck spasms from a whip lash injury, they happen often make my head turn if I'm lying down. My surgeon said under anaesthetic I would be fine. I hope this is true but given my unusual scar tissue I'm trying to think of explanations, could I potentially still have minor neck spasms under aesthetic? might explain why I have so much more scar tissue compared to anyone I have seen, because if my neck was spamming occasionally whilst in the op, even very subtly, it would have been very difficult to operate carefully!
I asked some other surgeons about my nose problems and one described it as "poor work". I feel disappointed by this, but was kinda expecting it. I don't understand why my surgeon made out everything was fine. I don't feel I can trust him anymore, especially after talking to some other unhappy Matti patients. The scar tissue lump forming on my bridge is getting worse, the injection has done nothing so far to improve the large scar tissue on the left side of my nose, another doctor said I should have been given the steroid injections much earlier, I mentioned my concerns to my surgeon at my 6 weeks post op, but he just said it was swelling and would go away.... I also think the skin hasn't shrunk around my nose very well as it was reduced too much, my nose lacks definition. I want to get my projection back, I feel this was taken from me and I emphasised my desire for a minor change so much. I regret this decision. I feel a fool for ever deciding to do this. I was definitely happier before this experience. I know my nose was far from perfect before, but I preferred it to the nose I have now. I hate noses that lack projection, and I now have one... I have just swapped some problems for plenty more, and I paid £7k to do it...
Not many people seem to have as much scar tissue as I do, another doctor described it as "unusual". I told my surgeon that I experience neck spasms from a whip lash injury, they happen often make my head turn if I'm lying down. My surgeon said under anaesthetic I would be fine. I hope this is true but given my unusual scar tissue I'm trying to think of explanations, could I potentially still have minor neck spasms under aesthetic? might explain why I have so much more scar tissue compared to anyone I have seen, because if my neck was spamming occasionally whilst in the op, even very subtly, it would have been very difficult to operate carefully!

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