Since CoolSculpting Freezes Fat to Kill It, Why Not Just Repeatedly Apply Ice Bags?

I had a free consultation for Coolsculpt and have read online about the 'popsicle' studies that led researchers to exam whether freezing fat to kill the cells would be effective for spot fat reduction. This led to Coolsculpt. But if this method is effective, why couldn't one apply ice bags on fat bulges and gradually destroy the fat cells?

Doctor Answers 30

Coolsculpting is the advanced technology of gradual fat tissue cooling, not of fat freezing.

Dear writer, your question is a very important one. By answering it I hope to satisfy your curiosity and also keep your approach to fatty tissue reduction safe. Coolsculpting utilizes a very specific algorithm for gradually extracting the heat from the fatty tissue. This may be called cooling, but never freezing. This algorithm, carefully studied and designed by world renowned scientist and engineers, is what makes this technology so safe, as well as effective. Putting icepacks repeatedly over the areas of excess fatty tissue may lead to frostbite, permanent loss of skin sensation and undesired atrophy or indentation of the area (because the very carefully anatomically designed shape of the noninvasive suctioning 'cup' is not used). Lastly, patients may bring themselves to a state of low body temperature (hypothermia) that could, in some cases, caused death. Your question was a very genuine and important one. I hope I helped clarify your concerns. With regards, Dr. Leyda Bowes

Can the effects of CoolSculpting be replicated by the application of ice bags

CoolSculpting is performed using a device that rather than delivering cold actually extracts energy (thereby cooling) the tissue.  The device carefully monitors this process with continual feedback so that the temperatures achieved are such that the fat will freeze but not so cold that other tissue such as skin, muscles, nerves or blood vessels will.   One could never monitor such a process with the use of an ice bag.  It is highly unlikely one could deliver cold enough temperatues to the fat with an ice bag alone and even if one were able to do so,  you will most likely freeze the overlying skin.  As a result of the freezing of the skin,  a scar will be induced.  

Ted Brezel, MD
Long Island Dermatologist
5.0 out of 5 stars 3 reviews

CoolSculpting does not freeze fat!

You are obviously a curious and thoughtful person, and ask a question that the original creators of the CoolSculpting device had to consider carefully.

There is a misconception that has been widely circulated, perhaps for the sake of simplicity, that Coolsculpting freezes fat. This is not actually the case. The device has been carefully and cleverly designed to extract heat from the tissues via the application to the skin of cold, but not freezing, plates.  The temperature of the skin in contact with the plates is continuously monitored throughout the entire procedure, and the temperature of the plates altered according to that feedback such that the skin and fat will never freeze but rather be chilled.  

If you were to apply something frozen to the skin, you might reach temperatures that would injure fat cells, but you would also get frostbite in the overlying skin. If you were to apply something not quite frozen to the skin, it would rapidly warm up and you would never reach a temperature cold enough in the the fat layer to injure the fat cells.

The reason the device, and only a device such as this, can injure fat cells without damaging the overlying skin, is because of a  simple but wonderful difference in a physical property of water and fat: the freezing temperature.  The temperature at which fat freezes is higher than the temperature at which water freezes.  Since skin has a lot of water and fat doesn't, you can applying below-freezing plates to the skin that are not cold enough to freeze the skin, but cold enough to chill the fat cells just enough that they are gently shifted into a process called apoptosis, or programmed cell death, and therefore die off slowly, one by one, during the months after treatment.

i hope this answers your excellent question.

Sheryl D. Clark, MD
New York Dermatologist
5.0 out of 5 stars 4 reviews

Coolsculpting is controlled cooling- its okay to eat popsicles!

The fat must be a specific temperature for a specific period  of time to trigger fat cell death. While the initial popsicle cases stimulated the idea, cool sculpting was developed through extensive scientific research that identified the precise temperature and time period needed to stimulate fat cells to die and to do this without causing skin damage. The combination of isolating the fat in the suction chamber and maintaining controlled cooling allows for safe, smooth, and reproducible results. If only ice bags would do it!

It is important to note, the children had prolonged contact with extreme cold before the cheek fat wa affected- so do not worry about eating popsicles!

Andrea Willey, MD
Sacramento Dermatologic Surgeon

Icepacks instead of Coolsculpting

This will not work and poses a danger as Coolsculpting does not freeze the skin. Coolsculpting is a cold application just above freezing. Keep in mind freezing skin will injure the skin- whereas Coolsculpting is specifically designed to apply temperatures that kill fat but do not injure skin at a temperature below freezing. Coolsculpting works excellent. .

 

Steven Hacker, MD
West Palm Beach Dermatologic Surgeon
5.0 out of 5 stars 4 reviews

Zeltiq's CoolSculpting can not be duplicated with application of icepacks to the skin

If one were to try to freeze the fat by freezing the skin with ice long enough, the skin would die and this necrosis would heal with scarring probably.  There also can be cirulatory changes to the skin.  Zeltiq has been able to preserve the quality of the skin by localized the temperature reduction in the fatty tissues.

Ronald Shelton, MD
Manhattan Dermatologic Surgeon
5.0 out of 5 stars 33 reviews

Coolsculpting Kills Fat, Ice could kill your skin

The short answer is that there is no way to maintain the appropriate treatment temperatures. The Coolsculpting units are very sophisticated and they constantly monitor the treatment temperature. If it detects the skin is too cold the unit will shut down and stop treatment as a safety precaution. It also makes sure the tissue is sufficiently cooled so the treatment is effective. It's this type of precision that allows for both safe and effective treatment. There is no safe or effective do it yourself option. You'll likely have nothing to show for your efforts but potential frost bite. 

Sarah A. Mess, MD
Columbia Plastic Surgeon
5.0 out of 5 stars 9 reviews

Never that easy

While your theory makes sense to a point, you have left out an important concern.  If ice bags alone are used, the skin could be injured by frostbite as well.  You've probably seen pictures of frostbite online and the tissue loss is dramatic.  In other words, the fat would be reduced, but the overlying skin could also die, resulting in potential scarring at best or the need for reconstructive surgery- skin grafts, flaps, or even amputations, at worst. Coolsculpting solves this problem by monitoring the temperature carefully during the treatment cycle, and maintaining the temp at the point where the fat cell are affected but the skin is not damaged.

David Shuter, MD
Jupiter Plastic Surgeon
5.0 out of 5 stars 3 reviews

Using Ice Bags to Freeze Fat instead of Coolsculpting is not a good idea

First and foremost, be careful trying to take short cuts or coming up with less expensive home versions of cosmetic procedures.  Applying freezing ice bags to your skin can result in permanent injury to the skin from the direct contact. With coolsculpting, the skin is protected with a gel barrier, and the cold is carefully applied with a delivery device that targets the fat cells and does not damage the skin. Please seek out a board certified plastic surgeon for a consultation and treatment plan when considering coolsculpting or an other body contouring treatment. 

Mauricio J. Castellon, MD
Melbourne Plastic Surgeon
4.0 out of 5 stars 9 reviews

Coolsculpting vs ice packs

The cooling panels from coolsculpting provides a consistent temperature of 2-4 degree Celsius  for one hour. Yes there is a relation of fat and cold. However, the fat needs to get to that specific temperature for the fat cells to die. I don't recommended putting ice packs on yourself because you can injury yourself. If you're still not satisfied, try booking another consultation somewhere else. You could have a totally different experience. Good luck on your journey!

Robert G. Aycock, MD
Bay Area Plastic Surgeon
5.0 out of 5 stars 6 reviews

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