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Botox for Frown Lines - How Many Units Are Normal?
asked 3 years ago by vjb in Australia
Latest answer by David Shafer, MD
Question viewed 12,454 times
Tags: forehead, frown lines, units
I just went to get rid of my frown lines (forehead) they gave me 46 units of Botox, which is equivalent to 2 syringes... does that sound right? I don't understand the term units, and I don't want to get ripped off.
15 answers to Botox for Frown Lines - How Many Units Are Normal?
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Botox units for frown lines
Hi VJB,
If your frown lines are just the vertical lines at the bridge of the nose and between the eyes, then 46 units is probably too much. We usually use between 20-25 units in this area.
If your frown lines also include the horizontal forehead lines, then 46 units is a better number. We usually inject between 15-25 units in the forehead depending on the number and type of wrinkles. Just depends on how much of the "forehead" as you describe has been injected. Hope this helps....
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No rip off here
VJB,
You weren't ripped off! Trust your surgeon. I have said this before and I will say it again. It doesn't do ANY practitioner ANY good to compromise your result. It's a basic business concept. A satisfied customer will always come back!
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The amount of Botox required to treat wrinkles varies from individual to individual.
The amount of Botox required to treat wrinkles varies from individual to individual. In general, I use about 50 units to treat the forehead, glabella, and crow’s feet. Some patients may require more and some less. So, it does not appear that you were overcharged.
Thanks for your question.
Stephen A. Goldstein, MD
Englewood Plastic Surgeon
Englewood Plastic Surgeon
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Botox Units vs. Areas
It is always preferable to know how many "units" of Botox were used to treat a given area. The pricing is then based on dollars per unit, and you know exactly what you're getting, as well as what you're paying for it, like going to the gas station to fill your tank. A "syringe" means nothing unless you know how many units it contains, and the cost per unit.
I typically use 20 units to treat the "glabellar" frown lines (a.k.a. "11's") between the...
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Athleo Louis Cambre, MD
Los Angeles Plastic Surgeon
Los Angeles Plastic Surgeon
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25 units is fairly typical.
For just the frown lines (the corrugator supercilii and procerus muscles), I usually start patients with 25 units. The occasional patient requires more depending on the prominence of the muscles.
"Units" are a standardized dose of Botox, where 1 unit was defined as the LD50 for intraperitoneal injections in mice. The LD50 is the "lethal dose, 50%" which means that 50% of the mice injected with 1 unit of Botox in the abdominal cavity were killed. [And before anyone gets...
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David C. Pearson, MD
Jacksonville Facial Plastic Surgeon
Jacksonville Facial Plastic Surgeon
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What is a Botox "unit"
Botox units are just a measure of the Botox delivered. Every person requires slightly different amounts. The number of syringes is not an accurate measure since the Botox is diluted in saline to any volume necessary. So there could be more Botox in one syringe of a doctor then 3 syringes from another doctor - depending on how much they dilute the Botox. Most patients start out around 50 units for their first treatment. The effects are then observed and the...
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How many Botox units needed for frown lines
The amount of Botox required to effectively treat the frown area or any area for that matter depends on the strength of the muscles which is determined by a visual examination by the physician - men typically require many more units than women, though some women have a very strong frown complex. At the same time, some patients want a completely frozen area, while others want some movement, so the nuance in dosing is typically best decided by your dermatologist or plastic surgeon.
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Botox works great for the frown lines.
Botox is measured in units. Botox for the frown lines (the muscle between your eye brows) generally required 30-35 units for women and approximately 40-45 units for men. This is only the average as this is dependent on the muscle as everyone is different.
David A. F. Ellis, MD
Toronto Facial Plastic Surgeon
Toronto Facial Plastic Surgeon
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Botox Unit for Frown lines
For frown lines between the brow, I use between 20 - 25 units depending on the facial anatomy. If you have lines on the forehead, it may take up to 40 units for both area. Our price is based on dollar per unit, so you know exactly what you are getting and paying for per unit.
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The number of Botox units to frown lines
To answer your question it depends on how strong your muscles are (Corrugator & procerus) when you frown. Men need more to this area then women. Allergan who makes Botox recommends 20 units to treat this area. I usually start the patient off with 25 units and have them come back in two weeks to see if they need more. If you are talking about the forehead also than 46 units sounds like a appropriate amount.
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Botox dosage can vary
How much Botox is needed depends on the patient and the result that you want achieved. Men usually need more Botox placed then women to get the same effect because their forehead muscles have more bulk. Also, if we're targeting only a few problem lines of concern, less will be required than if you are treating a whole forehead. Talk to your surgeon and they should be able to tell you how much they plan to use and why.
Adam Hamawy, MD
Westchester Plastic Surgeon
Westchester Plastic Surgeon
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Botox and treatment dose
The treatment dose varies depending upon the area being treated, and doctors mix the botox up differently. 40-50 units should cover the upper 1/3 of the face in most cases.
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Amount of Botox for forehead can vary between individuals.
Botox is a very useful and powerful medicine. It is typically injected around muscles to help them relax. Some patients have very strong musculature in their forehead. For these patients, additional Botox may be necessary. If using Botox for the first time in forehead, you may consider using a smaller amount of units such as 20 units for 30 units and see the result. If you wish to have a more pronounced effect, you can always return to your plastic surgeon 1-2 weeks later and...
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B. Pat Pazmino, MD
Miami Plastic Surgeon
Miami Plastic Surgeon
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46 units of Botox too much for forehead.
Hi.
In New York City, we use 25 units of Botox for the forehead and that is on the high side. Too much Botox will give you frozen look.
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How Many Botox Units to Treat Forehead Furrows, Ask Nicole
Hi vjb,
46 Units of Botox in the forehead should take care of all of your frown lines.
Your beautiful and talented fellow country woman, Nicole Kidman, likely has less than that many units in her forehead. The number of units vary from individual to individual, usually somewhere between 24 to 40 units does the trick. Good day and enjoy the Vegemite!
Dr. P
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