I've had a series of unfortunate events with botox; my eyebrows drop dramatically from botox injected into my forehead. Like a trooper (or fool) i let my doc inject high on my forehead my last visit. It actually had the affect of lifting my brows, BUT also left me looking like a klingon; a smooth patch high on my forehead, with a band of horizontal wrinkles in the middle of it. What area would you recommend injecting to remedy this? Keeping in mind that anything near my brows drops them.
How Low Should Botox Be Injected in my Forehead?
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How Low Should Botox Be Injected in my Forehead?
Note however, that I said to "reduce the likelihood" and did not say to "prevent" brow drooping. Reason being, with someone with low-set brows, or those of increasing age, one is more likely to develop a brow droop as their brow raising muscle, the Frontalis, is paralyzed with the Botox.
It all depends on the examination by your physician injector. He/she would carefully examine you to assess, at the very least, your brow position, the location of your forehead wrinkles, and the vector of pull of your Frontalis muscle.
Over-treating some areas can give you a brow droop, while under-treating some areas can give you a "Spock-like" or "Klingon" result -- whichever Star Trek reference you prefer :)
These are just a few of the complications that can happen...
My overall recommendations are to seek the services of an experienced physician injector.
I think the key with Botox lies in truly understanding the anatomy of the injected area, and more importantly the variability in the anatomy between patients -- for brows, the forehead, and anywhere else you plan on receiving a Botox injection. This includes having a firm understanding of the origin, insertion, and action of each muscle that will be injected, the thickness of each muscle targeted, how deep beneath the skin the actual muscle resides, and the patient variability therein. As an aesthetic-trained plastic surgeon, I am intrinsically biased since I operate in the area for browlifts and facelifts, and have a unique perspective to the muscle anatomy since I commonly dissect under the skin, see the actual muscles themselves, and learn "first-hand" the incredible variability between patients -- live, "on the OR table" -- as opposed to via lectures or a cadaver dissection. For me, this helps guide where to inject and where not to. However, with that said, I know many non-aesthetic trained plastic surgeons and other physicians who know the anatomy well despite not operating in that area, and get good results.
You need to see an experienced injector. If you're in BC, I'd recommend the offices of Peter Lennox, Kevin Bush, Alex Seal, or Rob Thompson just off the top of my head. There are many fantastic injectors in BC.
Treating forehead with botox
Generally speaking, Botox when used for the forehead is injected in the top 1/3 of the forehead. More importantly, you need to ensure that for the best results, that you seek a highly trained professional such as a dermatologist or plastic surgeon. Best to see your physician to fix up the problem you're describing. Be aware that some people need their forehead muscle (frontalis) to keep their eyebrows up, and are not good candidates at all for Botox treatments.
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My 2 cents in this case is as follows: Horizontal lines in the forehead are most commonly caused by subconscious activation of the frontalis muscle, which is the muscle that elevates the brow. People with heavy brows tend to do this without knowing it. The key to addressing this is to inject the "fronwner muscles" between the eyebrows, staying low over the brows. Also, the orbicularis muscle, the one that closes the eye is injected just above the brows (in minute amounts), and also in the crow's feet. This allows the brow to elevate and takes away the subconscious need to hold the brows up with the frontalis. If there are still horizontal lines, very small amounts (usually diluted) of Botox can be added to the frontalis itself.
The question you ask is a very good one. It is important to receive your injections (Botox or fillers) by a physician who specializes in the treatment of the face. This is the most important, and understated, element of a successful result. Indicators that help are: Specialization in the face, certification by an accredited American board, fellowship training, strong community reputation, fellowship training and even academic affiliation.
Be healthy and be well,
James M. Ridgway, MD
As with any procedure, please make sure the "injector" knows what they are doing and knows the facial anatomy extremely well. Injecting botox by many out there is done through the use of a cook book system instead of actually studying the muscles and insertions of those muscles to make sure that the toxin is placed in the most useful places to assure the best possible results. So the injector is key – make sure they are well skilled – board certified dermatologists, plastic surgeons, oculoplastic surgeons, and facial plastic surgeons and their staffs is where you should be getting the injections done. There are lots of alternatives – and then you are risking skills and proper training in most instances. For you I would find the best of the best in your area and let them do their magic in trying to make you not look like a Klingon or Mr. Spock.
Botox and forehead wrinkles
Ensure you are treated by an experienced specialist. The amount and placement of the Botox injections depend on the individual patient. You may be raising your forehead unknowingly because of saggy eyelids. In this case, you probably should not have any Botox injected into your forehead but may be a candidate for a Botox brow lift to raise your eyebrows to help your eyelids. Fillers can be injected into your forehead lines to soften them and not cause a forehead droop.
Choose an experience professional who is an expert using Botox or Dysport
There is an art to cosmetic medicine. Make sure you are going to an experience medical artist who knows where the muscles are and how to get the Botox results that you want. Botox and Dysport are not idiot proof.
Botox for forehead wirnkles
If you have significant horizontal forehead wrinkles, they may be there because you are contracting your forehead muscles to keep your eyebrows elevated as eyebrows tend to droop with age. For forehead injections small unit quantities, and injecting the eyebrow depressors to elevate the inner and outer eyebrows are important. This allows a balancing out of the central drooping with medial and lateral elevation. In patients that rely on their forehead muscles to keep the eyebrows elevated it may be advisable to not inject the forehead.
Injection technique for Botox on forehead
Well, both the injection site itself and the number of units injected are the culprit for your fallen eyebrows. If you keep going back to the same injector and keep having issues, my suggestion is to consider going to someone else. There is no way to tell you exactly where to inject on you without an in-person evaluation to see your specific muscle structure. This is why experience matters!
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