How Can I remove DARK VIOLET from my lips???

Dear J.W. I have exactly similar lips at the moment - since 5 weeks - and do not know how to get rid of this nasty color.How you are doing now? Best regards, E.N.

Has anyone had their lip liner tattoo removed by laser? I have a dark red liner and am consider laser tattoo removal. Please share your experiences. thank you tinysou

Hi, I'm glad I found this forum with real cases similar to mine and professional advice. I'm 35 and of hispanic origin. I had permanent lipliner done about 7 months ago by a beginner esthetician close to the family (I know, that was dum) I hated it from the beginning. After three weeks I went back to the esthetician who told me she could correct it with a retouch and make it lighter. I had an awful cold sore outbreak two days later. The color is still a dark sienna on the lower lip and has faded a little bit on the upper lip. All the information I have about the pigment is that is organic and a mix of many colors. I'm so disappointed and mad at myself for having this done. All I want is to have it removed, but I'm afraid to make it worse. I hated it so much I have to apply concealer and then long lasting make up as soon as I get out of bed. I don't even want my husband to see me without make up. My self esteem has being so affected by this. Please I'd appreciate any advice about the possibility of removal.

just wanna say thanks for your advise, my makeup was done 5 days ago, its already scabed, i was scared because mine seems to have completely dissapeared after the scabs came of, after you said i will come back I feel better.

All colors heal cooler in the skin than they look. The color in the surface skin (epidermis) will be lost when you heal, because those skin cells change roughly once a month. When new translucent skin cells grow over the remaining pigment in the dermis, the color will appear lighter because there's less of it, and cooler, because light refracts as it passes through the new translucent epidermis. So you can't pick a truly "matching" color wet expecting it to look the same healed. An experienced tech knows her/his colors, and how they will look when healed. Sometimes clients push for too cool or dark a color when wet, and that's when you get lips that are too blue or purple. Also, if you have strong blue undertones in the lip color, it will add to the tendency of cool colors to look cooler. A slight cooling can be offset with the addition of a very warm (orange based) color. But blue is visually stronger and longer lasting than red or yellow, so it takes a LOT of warm color to warm up a really purple lipcolor, if it works at all. Black/mauve probably means it was just the wrong color to start. Anyone with a history of cold sores needs to be on antiviral medications prophylactically for 2-3 days before and after the procedure to minimize the risk of outbreaks. The cold sore/herpes 2 virus lives dormant in the associated nerves forever, and is stimulated by the tattooing process. Finally, the days of really sore and swollen lips immediately after the procedure should be gone, if techs use today's effective, epinephrine enhanced anesthetics, high end machinery, and post treatment with low level light therapy, all of which will minimize swelling and bleeding. My lip clients walk out looking perfectly normal, as they should. But there are still a lot of people with minimal knowledge and poor technique abusing faces out there. Removal with Q switched YAG laser by a doctor, and/or saline gel removal by a permanent makeup technician, are both possible, and will significantly improve colors that are too dark or blue. But don't do laser if the original color formula contained any white, as the white will fracture and turn darker under the laser.

Hi Mhikyla,
I am so sorry to hear of your distress. Permanent make up is seriously a complex procedure, as each individual will need a custom made mixture of pigment to achieve the desired effect. It really does have great bearing on your skin colouring and ethnicity. Secondly any PMU ( permanent make up) takes time at least for the first week to change and get lighter. As blood and lymph are usually present making it look darker, so PMU usually lightens the first week by at least 30-40% and will definitely be 4 weeks for a true colour to be visible. I too unfortunately had a bad experience having my lips done, and it was done by the actual owner of a well known PMU company here in the UK. I also wasn't numbed up!! My lips looked like two conkers, dark brown and extremely swollen. I was in excruciating pain too. My lips had a real black/mauve line all through the bottom lip. It was implanted far too deeply. I waited 6 weeks for full healing, as i had an outbreak of cold sores. I implanted orange into my own lips to counter balance this
nightmare, and made sure I numbed myself up plenty. Also did you read through your consent forms you signed? As usually it will stipulate that there is no guarantee on the colour or shape. So 'caveat emptor' meaning buyer beware should be exercised. It would also help I believe in this forum for people to say what country they are from, as each country has different laws. As for laser treatment please also make sure they are qualified and experienced in the correctional field.
I will end what must read like a novel! My final note...time is a great healer, excuse the pun, but especially with PMU.

I feel Your pain Mhikyla, really.
I started to avoid interactions with people to minimum, if it is going to continue I might end up with some serious depression.

My 1st advice is-go to another technician! Not the one,that made the horrible make-up! You probably demand compensation, and correction for free, but dont risk for 2nd time with non-competent amateur. What she told You is a nonsense, after 3 weeks the chance that, it will gone away is very very small.

I have found the best technician in my area to consult with her the issue, and 3 others, to be sure, so I think I have enough information on issue :)

About a scar- the technician probably did the make-up too deep and placed the pigment into your dermis not epidermis (so what You have is more like a tatoo), and that why it is so dark, and You might have received also a scar :( Unfortunately I also have a scar, thick line behind the pigment, and I think it will heal just a little, but the mark will stay for ever :(


About the orange is really strange, why she added this color.. but probably she wanted to 'break' the pink and gain another color.. Mine cosmetologist mixed pink with some light brown in order to make it "dirty" pink, but the result is as it shows on my picture :(

What we both can do now is to do camouflage-permanent make-ups...couple of times...:/ It is feasible, so dont worry, but it will take a lot of time and money :(

The second option is Q-switch laser, but reallly few clinics do this (at least in my country), beacuse it requires modern, and very precise equipment, and also the risk of scar is not that small.

I concern both options, first I will try to britghen the blue with laser, then I will do another permanent make-up.

Let us stay in contact, so we can share experience and news.

Greetings

I had the same experience. I just got a permanent full lip make up done three weeks ago but my upper lip turned very dark instead of red as well as the sides of my lower lip! I really hate it! I am so embarassed to talk to people. Now everytime I go to work, I have to cover it with concealer and lipstick. I have not talked to the esthetician who did my lips yet but before the procedure, she told me that her previous client had dark lips after the procedure but it has gone away after some time. Not sure how long. Damn! I am so frustrated for having dark lips instead of kissable rosy pink lips. By the way, she did put a lot of orange color on my lip before putting the color that I chose. I am wondering why my lips turned dark? Is this some type of a scar??? And I also noticed that my lips have more lines than what I have before. OMG!!! this is making me so depressed! Please help!!!

I am white caucasian: dark blonde, with blue eyes (and recently also with blue lips ;D).

Thank You for advice, I will pass this suggestion to my technician :)

Greetings

Hi, first and foremost you would need to specify your ethnicity, as it has great bearing on your lip colour. If you are a White Caucasian then if it don't settle (but it really is early days, the lips actually end up looking like all the colour has gone! Then slowly blush back ip) go back to your technician allow them to analyse the colour, and orange will combat this violet. I mean a real tequila sunrise type if orange. Please don't stress Hun, it will get better as time goes on. If you are a dark skinned girl then you will naturally carry lots of blue in your pigment, making the lips look darker. Apart from that my lovely, time is the essence but still call the technician. As I believe the after care and advice just as important.
I'm in the UK so can't even have a look at you x. Hope this helps
Patricia from Elegance Forever Beauty Clinic

Thnx for advice.
It has already scabbed over and fallen off unfortunately. :(
I have already consulted another specialists doing such make-up coreections...but the perspectives arent so bright :( I might try to cover it with another pigments (it may request 3 or more times to be covered), but there is no guarantee it will ever look "normal" again...
Whoever considers doing permanent make-up...REALLY SHOULD THINK IT OVER.

HI J.W., 

If it's only been a week and hasn't scabbed over and fallen off yet, you should give it a bit more time. It can take to two weeks plus for a tattoo to do that, and in the meantime as it is getting ready to scab it will get much much darker and than usually fall off. Make sure you keep it very well moisturized so you don't experience a scar. Also you might want to chat with community members Myladylana  and SY214 they know a lot on this subject. 

Hope that helps, thanks,

-Britt