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Permanent eyeliner keeps flaking off
By 337 on 29 Jul 2011
Hi all, really glad I found this forum... I got my permanent eyeliner done 5 times in the last 8 months (top and bottom).... Each time the jet-black flakes off after some 3-4 days leaving a barely visible segmented grey line.... Very frustrating !! My technician has over 15 years experience in PMU and I have seen some of her other customers (good job) - she says she never saw anything like my skin.... I keep to all the before and after care instructions - yet each time after some 3-4 days off it goes... Is this because the pigment is not deep enough ? I am a Ukranian genotype with light yellow-based skin, have no allergies and to my impression my skin is quite thick (I never saw a single drop of blood in all the sessions). Has anyone here experienced anything similar and what was the solution ? Thanks :)
Hi 337,
Hmm, you might want to go see someone else. All tattoos will scab and flake off to a lighter color after they heal, so that is normal. However the fact that it sounds like they are not doing it right is not cool. You might want to chat with myladylana she knows a lot about this topic.
Thanks,
-Britt
Lana
This is already my second technician and I find she is quite good actually - I met several of her other customers and all have had a good job done on them, she's tops for symmetry and accuracy - what I did notice is that I'm the only east European she has... and my skin is different to most people here.
The next problem is that each time I change technician - I can not be sure I'd get a better job done, and I have to pay a "start up" fee of some 400 EUR.... TBH I find that a bit dear...
What exactly do you think she's doing wrong ?
Hi 337,
I'm not sure, but it doesn't sound like she's going far enough into the skin, usually a tattoo takes up to 2 weeks to heal and does bleed. You might want to check with myladylana this is her area of expertise.
Thanks,
-Britt
In my opinion the technician did not go deep enough or it could be the brand of ink... She doesn't have to go to deep, but deep enough to feel the vibration when the needle is hitting the skin. Make sure you wait (a week for every 10 years of your age) please...Can you find out if she used reg tattoo ink, or if she used permanent make up ink.
Also i will be happy to help talk to your technician if she has any more questions.
I will ask the exact ink brand, to the best of my knowledge so far the allowed ink brands are all harmonized in Europe, next to that in the last session she used some catalyst transparent fluid which improved the results, generally I had the impression it was not deep enough in the skin - because I never saw any blood, and while I think PMU is not supposed to be as deep at a tattoo in the connecting tissue, but only in the dermis (is this true ?) what I read online all kept pointing in that direction....
My technician is now on her summer vacation, I will discuss your input with her when she returns, so naturally I would greatly appreciate anything your can add.
Thanks
LG
Also not all eyeliner bleeds... in fact hardly ever. but anyway good luck to you
Lana
Hi 337,
This happened not with my eyeliner but with my lipliner. I went back several times and then I just gave up. :( I think some individuals' skin just doesn't take the ink... I have the eyeliner done and am SO happy I did it. Before, I felt like I appeared really tired and almost had a "stoned" look to my eyes. It has been 10 years and is holding up well.
Kate - I'm glad the eyeliner worked out for you (and wish the same for myself). Doing your lips sounds really painful....
My technician is returning from vacation in like 2 weeks - the last eyeliner she did with that catalyst fluid worked out much better, but it still thinner than what I wanted, and is medium-grey rather than the original jet-black the ink was. I'll also ask her the exact brand of ink she used.
good weekend all :)