Permanent eyeliner keeps flaking off

Hi 337,

Hmm, you might want to go see someone else. All tattoos will scab and flake off to a lighter color after they heal, so that is normal. However the fact that it sounds like they are not doing it right is not cool. You might want to chat with myladylana she knows a lot about this topic.

Thanks,

-Britt

Hi Britt, thanks for your response.

This is already my second technician and I find she is quite good actually - I met several of her other customers and all have had a good job done on them, she's tops for symmetry and accuracy - what I did notice is that I'm the only east European she has... and my skin is different to most people here.

The next problem is that each time I change technician - I can not be sure I'd get a better job done, and I have to pay a "start up" fee of some 400 EUR.... TBH I find that a bit dear...

What exactly do you think she's doing wrong ?

Hi 337,

I'm not sure, but it doesn't sound like she's going far enough into the skin, usually a tattoo takes up to 2 weeks to heal and does bleed. You might want to check with myladylana this is her area of expertise.

Thanks,

-Britt

Hello, The very first time I had my eyeliner tattooed on it flaked off too and since it was at a trade show and the people lived so far away i was going to fly to them to redo. that was the first time I had heard of permanent makeup. Then I got into the business and learned why...
In my opinion the technician did not go deep enough or it could be the brand of ink... She doesn't have to go to deep, but deep enough to feel the vibration when the needle is hitting the skin. Make sure you wait (a week for every 10 years of your age) please...Can you find out if she used reg tattoo ink, or if she used permanent make up ink.
Also i will be happy to help talk to your technician if she has any more questions.

Flying over to have to redo your PMU is far... My technician is in the same small town as myself - luckily.

I will ask the exact ink brand, to the best of my knowledge so far the allowed ink brands are all harmonized in Europe, next to that in the last session she used some catalyst transparent fluid which improved the results, generally I had the impression it was not deep enough in the skin - because I never saw any blood, and while I think PMU is not supposed to be as deep at a tattoo in the connecting tissue, but only in the dermis (is this true ?) what I read online all kept pointing in that direction....

My technician is now on her summer vacation, I will discuss your input with her when she returns, so naturally I would greatly appreciate anything your can add.

Thanks
LG

hello, yes that would be to far for you to come here and i didn't suggest that to you do so. i am not on here to get business just to help. i mean if someone was close to my town that would be different. :)
Also not all eyeliner bleeds... in fact hardly ever. but anyway good luck to you
Lana

Hi 337,

This happened not with my eyeliner but with my lipliner.  I went back several times and then I just gave up.  :(  I think some individuals' skin just doesn't take the ink... I have the eyeliner done and am SO happy I did it.  Before, I felt like I appeared really tired and almost had a "stoned" look to my eyes.  It has been 10 years and is holding up well.

Lana - my comment about the flying was not meant that way - I meant it must have been far for YOU to travel...

Kate - I'm glad the eyeliner worked out for you (and wish the same for myself). Doing your lips sounds really painful....

My technician is returning from vacation in like 2 weeks - the last eyeliner she did with that catalyst fluid worked out much better, but it still thinner than what I wanted, and is medium-grey rather than the original jet-black the ink was. I'll also ask her the exact brand of ink she used.

good weekend all :)

hello. the brand of the ink is important I use bio touch and they have a black specially for eyeliner is thicker. And yes there are some people with thicker skin and every hard for the pigment to enter and in that case it will hurt more and 2 or 3 visit to the shop but have to go in deeper with a number one needle tell your tech. to try that. and hopefully she is not charging you. good luck