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Messed up permanent make up

  • 7 years ago

A couple of weeks ago I decided to get permanent makeup. It was for my eyebrows, lips and eyes. The eyeliner was done really really badly. It gives my left eye a strange lopsided look because the tattoo is not done right. I could kick myself for doing this on a whim. I just opened the yellowpages and picked someone. Now I'm embarassed to be seen and I lose sleep thinking about how bad it looks. Do you know who I should go to for removing the messed up eyeliner tattoo?

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Anyone know of good saline removal options in SW Florida?
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John Hahsey in Oldsmar Florida...he has been in this business forever and a day...he knows his stuff and backs up talk with action.
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The new Tattoo Vanish (saline gel) requires company certification training to use, so you can be sure to get a qualified practitioner. Other more acidic or alkaline products used to remove color, like Rejuvi, have a much higher risk of scarring in my opinion. The advantages of saline removal are that it works on all colors including white, it doesn't cause colors to shift (as laser might), and it actually takes the color out of the skin. Laser breaks up the color so it can be removed internally. But it ends up in your lymph nodes forever, and is that a good thing? Also, there's some scientific discussion of late about the risks of nano particles in your body long term, which I think are greatly enhanced by the laser fracturing of the color. There is no magic wand. But with patience, I think the saline route is the best for most people.
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I would just like to say that I have had my permanent eyebrow tattoos removed by laser and it was the best thing I have ever done and outweighs having the ink in my lymph nodes. With a heathy diet and exercise anything can be wiped out, even cancer!I did 2 sessions of rejuvi and it was the most awful thing i had ever experienced!!! Salt and saline you will need alot of treatments people! I have had 6 laser sessions and only have a shadow of ink left in one small area, which is disappearing day by day. And my eyebrow hair, it is still there, the ones that dropped out are growing back too. So please people make informed decisions, this is a mistake that can be undone. For me laser worked and I was petrified, but I had a big black thick tattoied eyebrows, i nightmare i was determined to ERASE! Do not let fear stop you!
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Sam, I'm so happy they've been removed! Congrats! Yayyyy I'm so glad your nightmare is over! Can you tell me a bit about the process like during the laser, the days after the laser and how long it takes to heal after each session? My derm said I'll need 6-8 sessions but I guess I don't know what to expect after each session and I'm concerned that I don't know what to expect
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I too am very happy for you Sam, enjoy it!!! The laser you received, is it any special brand or model or type of any sort that one could look into in the internet? I'd love to remove mine and wish to know more about the type of laser you took. However, I recall having read somewhere that laser will not remove well any pink/orange color, it's only good for black. Do you happen to know anything more about it? Thanks. Wear your clear eyebrows with good health and happiness. :o)
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They do make a couple of lasers that removes all colors...some just remove certain colors better than others
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Which ones Theresa? Thank you.
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Lumenis QX Max Aztanza Trinity both of these utilizes three wavelengths, 1064nm, 532nm, and 694nm. By combining a dual wavelength Nd:YAG laser and a single wavelength Ruby, our laser can effectively target and treat 99% of tattoo ink colors. Because we can utilize the three different wavelengths, we have the ability to treat every color during the same treatment session.
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As good as that device may be, none of those wavelengths will clear colors containing white without turning them black first. So we're really talking about treating 3 primary colors, 3 secondary colors, and black. That's 7/8, or 87.5%, not 99%. Plus, colors may clear at different rates, it all takes a lot of treatments, there are safety issues using the laser at the eyeline, and there's the additional safety concern about the long term effect of nanoparticles collecting in the lymph glands. So, as much good as the laser may do in many cases, there's still reason to consider other forms of removal.
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Correct Jeffery white will be turned black first....but these types of lasers will remove black...This is the material on the 2 lasers that I am aware of that doctors I work with or Laser Spas I work with use. I have no gain in the information I am providing...I don't provide any laser services...just sharing what I know and what I have seen the lasers do from working around them.
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As I understand it, the white turns black because the laser fractures it, but not into small enough pieces for the laser to remove. The black particles can be further fractured and eventually removed, but it's a longer process than with other colors. Is that your understanding? If so, the client has to weigh the length of time and number of treatments required if they treat white with a laser against the pros and cons of mechanical removal instead. Unfortunately, there is no magic wand.
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Thanks for clarification Jeffery, but where does "white" come from? I don't remember that the operator who did my eyebrows used white... unless of course she mixed it in?
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White is titanium dioxide...it is used in the manufacturing & to achieve several colors. Your technician did not necessarily add it to your color...she could have but like I said several colors have white added long before it gets to the artist doing the work. With the white being turned black first by the laser you are probably looking at 2-3 extra laser sessions.
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PS I suggest you ask your technician/artist what pigment line she used on you...then take the name of that company and google them...then call them to ask exactly what is in that pigment...more specific is there any white or titanium dioxide in your specific color. That will tell you if there will be those extra sessions or not.
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Thank you Theresa, I don't think she'll even know it herself since she did such a bad job, but I'd like to know whether there are any other considerations from using laser besides having the ink particles absorbed by our organism and having to take a few more sessions? Thanx again.
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You are welcome :-) The rest is homework you will have to do on your own.
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Hi all, my doctor used the medilite c6 laser. My eyebrows were almost black when they were done, I don't know what the technician was thinking. With laser they got lighter after each treatment and then went grey, blue and then disappeared. I did get some pin point bleeding after treatment 4 and a little swelling and after 3 days I was back to normal. No one could tell I had laser . I got some skin shedding and that was it. Good luck to you all, and don't give up. My doc is in London, harley street, but am sure the USA is more advanced than us in laser.
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Oh Sam06 how wonderful! I'm so happy for you! How long ago did you have this done and how is your skin now? Didn't leave any marks, signs, scars, shadow color? I'd appreciate so much to let us know. TO ALL OTHERS IN USA: Do you happen to know where they do this type of laser so I could try it? Preferably in NYC Manhattan? I anticipate my big thanks. :o)
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Rosedala....he is one of the finest laser doctors in the country! Roy G. Geronemus, M.D. - Laser & Skin Surgery Center NYC, NY
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Thank you Theresa, I'll look into this doctor though I'm sure his fees are quite up in the skies.... lol! Have you heard about this particular medilite c6 laser before?
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Hello Jeffery, I just asked Theresa (PCBT) and may I ask you too if you ever heard about this medilite c6 laser? I know you don't approve of laser and I'm always grateful for your opinions, but, is there any difference in this particular laser? As you can see from poster Sam06, below, it apparently has wiped out her eyebrows ink without leaving any traces, and hopefully being only a pair of eyebrows it wasn't too much of the particles to be absorbed?.... I mean, as opposed to those large, dense tattoos I see so much! Thank you.
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The medlite C6 works...however a close friend of mine that runs a laser spa wasn't thrilled with it when it came to all the colors...she said that it worked better on some than others...there are new lasers out on the market as of a year or less that are having better results with most every color. Lasers are like smart phones...they improve faster than you can buy them.
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Hi rosedala, it has take me a whole year to remove the pigment as I took at least 6 week pauses and on my last appointment a 4 month pause. The laser has not left me with scarring and the skin is back to normal skin colour. I have the two small shadows of colour which I will get treated again, but I can only see it very close up. I hope that helps. It does take time and patience, but is worth it. I feel normal now and have got my confidence back. My husband does not even think I need another treatment and tells me I look like I have normal eyebrows now :)
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Sam!! Many congratulations!!!! X
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