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Need to Find the Right Doc, Don't Judge on Price - Vancouver, BC

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There are only two clinics in Vancouver that has...

VancouverFace
WORTH IT$2,500

There are only two clinics in Vancouver that has Ulthera. My girlfriend called both clinics and went with the cheaper place. I was a little concerned with the reviews for the cheaper place so I went for consultation with both. In the end, I paid a lot more than my girlfriend as I decided you get what you pay for. 2 months since our treatments. My girl friend did not see much improvement but my results are excellent. Comparing the two places, same machines, I think my doctor has more experience. When I first asked about why other clinics can offer such a low price, he said he does not know how the others do it without making money, but he promised a good job at his clinic at a price that was reasonable. Totally true. I have also switched my botox treatments to this clinic as well. Their per unit price is average. Even though my previous place charged a little less but they charged for more units which turns out to be more expensive *what a scam*. Dr. C seems to know a lot about Ulthera and he also explained it is not for everyone. I am convinceed it works, just with the right doctor or clinic.

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Dr. Cheng, Skin Matters Medical Center

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Replies (3)

February 8, 2011

Hi Vancouver,

Thanks for the review. A number of other community members have mentioned the right doctor with experience makes all the difference. I'm glad it worked out well for you, but feel bad for your girlfriend sounds like she wasn't as satisfied as you. Did you have any pain or downtime? Please keep us updated and if you have pictures to share we would love to see them.

Thanks,

-Britt

September 14, 2011
Okay -- one more thing, VancouverFace (love the name) and others on here: since some say it DOES depend on the doc, why would that be? Since it's a machine, and both docs and RNs are skilled (supposedly) in understanding the layers beneath the skin, why would some be "better" than others? Many places allow a so-called "specialist" to do it. When I asked what that meant, they said it was someone who had been specially trained to do ulthera, but not even an RN. Usually that costs less....but does anyone on here think that it requires a doc? Also, VancouverFace in particular, you said it was around 2000 for the whole face. That's kind of low, from what I have found. One of the places recommended on this site (a higher-priced place) is 1500 for just the forehead -- that's a facial plastic surgeon. To pay 1000 usually (I have found) it's an RN or less. Now...who would say that I should go to the higher-priced? I mean, for more difference, sure I would go to the higher-priced. Just not sure if the results would be that much greater?
February 11, 2011
Hi, i am also interested in this procedure. Can you tell me did you do your whole face? or just 1 area?
What kind of pain medication are you taking prior the procedure?
Thank you for sharing.
UPDATED FROM VancouverFace

Since then, I have sent another older GF there....

VancouverFace
Since then, I have sent another older GF there. She was initially told that Ulthera may not work for everyone (which I thought was an honest enough answer). She did do it last week and when I saw her yesterday, her results were better than mine. She is very pleased. She was going in for a follow up appointment this week and we will find out what the doctor says. I didn't think it worked so fast but seeing is believing. I am going to try to convince my GF that had the failed treatment to try this clinic instead.

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March 9, 2011
I just did the cheeks because the doctor told me that is all I needed. I would have paid to do the neck as well but he showed me it was not that bad and told me to save my money for something else.

No pain medication what so ever. Much less painful than Thermage. I think most people can tolerate it. I did read it somewhere that some people needed needles or creams. Don't understand why? Will ask the doctor next time. I am thinking of doing a second round to make things better.
September 14, 2011
Hey VancouverFace I just read this again and I am soo confused. I had it done on my upper neck and my God it was painful. An RN did it and she admitted that she had it done without meds and agreed about extraordinary pain. Now with fillers I have had different docs and yes, then it depends on how well they inject. One doc will do it and there is pain, but the next can do it and it won't hurt at all. But this is a different thing entirely. Also I still do not understand how docs charge so many different rates since it's the same machine, same everything -- I wish I could get the truth but I guess that's impossible. I am considering doing my forehead in hopes it would work better than well, nothing (Botox simply doesn't work on me, since I want lifting, not wrinkle reduction). I wish there were a way to know the full deal. Hey -- if anyone ever reads this who does know PLEASE explain! (I know my doc doesn't because he's too busy doing a good job and being a family man.)
April 18, 2011
Went in again recently to see if I can get a second round. The doctor checked me and told me to wait. He convinced me that it wasn't that bad so I can hold on to my money and spend it somewhere else! I think I am a fan for life! He did suggested that Japan Red Cross would be money better spent.

Exciting update. He told me my next Ulthera would be much cheaper because they are dropping their prices after getting better prices for their supplies. I think it is only going to be $1200 for cheeks and $2400 for the whole face! This is gotta be the cheapest price I have seen on the internet and definitely cheapest in Vancouver.
April 19, 2011

HI Vancouver,

Less expensive is always nice. I'm glad too your doctor sounds very honest. Please keep us updated.

Thanks,

-Britt
 

April 19, 2011
I am just in the process of booking an appointment and was wondering if the name of the clinic is skin matters. I would be grateful of a reply
April 22, 2011
Hi I am wondering who doctor C is in Vancouver so o can make an appointment
June 10, 2011
wow -- yes that is cheaper. Dr. Choe in VA Beach charges almost 4000 for the while face...maybe I will get a ticket to Toronto and stil have more money left over.
July 6, 2011
Saw my doc again, once again, he said I looked great and sent me on my way. My results are "holding". He explained that my results will diminish with time, just like aging. He also reminded me that not everyone is the same. He has patients that have done multiple treatments with excellent results. Simply put, why would anyone spend more money unless they see the results. I liked his honesty and absolutely liked his straight answers and experience. One downside to his clinic, very busy and sometimes waiting time is long. He does apologize nicely. Worth it!
July 6, 2011
hey vancouverface, sounds like your ultherapy was worth it. I still want to get it -- and am searching for a doc closer than canada, but who knows...anyway I have some questions. First, have you had anything done before? Why did you want it? Does it make fillers disappear? How old are you? I ask all this stuff because I am almost forty and have a thin face, but sagging, so I need an allover lift -- but don't want to lose volume. So I do wonder if some people are better for this than others...thanks!
UPDATED FROM VancouverFace

With a few friends that have done Ultherapy with...

VancouverFace

With a few friends that have done Ultherapy with Dr. Cheng (not sure if I am allowed to mention Dr.'s name here?), everyone single one saw results. I have to mention that the good doctor did decline to treat one of the them because he said she was not appropriate (too far gone) and it wouldn't be worth her money. The verdict is in, the results do show within the first two weeks and continue to improve over the next 2-3 months. Even though there is mild swelling that may make the face better initially, there are still the initial contractions. It is not a miracle cure but at least it is the best so far in terms of no surgery and no downtime. I have not compared prices recently but the new $2000 price paid by another GF (again, not sure if I can quote prices here..)at Dr. Cheng's clinic seems very reasonable now. Highly recommend this treatment and especially if you find someone that is very good. A tool is only as good as the craftsman.

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August 20, 2011
hi Vancouverface, I am still thinking either doing this treament or the thermage.
When you mentoned $2000, is it the whole face?
or just one area?
I went to Dr.W and he is charging per area.
Hope to hear from you soon.
August 21, 2011
Hey -- I have researched this and it is true, some docs seem to get more results than others, but they charge about 100- 500 more, if they do it and not a nurse or what some refer to as a "licensed" user. I almost had it done for a good price, 1000 dollars for the forehead. Most docs charge at least 1500 for this. It seems to be arbitrary. One place tried to convince me that EVERYWHERE charges 2500 for the forehead -- which is an absolute lie! If you just csll various places in the same area, they all charge within the same price, usually around 1500. Ask if a doc vs a nurse does it. I have had a registered nurse do it on the jaw. It works a LITTLE bit, not majorly. Best to do it around my age, namely 35 --40, when collagen can still be stimulated. It REALLY hurts, I had not medicine for it. Most places know that you should have a bit of pain meds, but I needed to drive myself back, so....if anyone has any more questions about my treatment and where to go, I have really done a lot of research by calling places, talking to professionals and non-profs, etc. and happy to answer as best I can. If you have the money to spend, I guess overall it's worth it....but do your research, of course.
August 26, 2011
I had Radiesse injected in March. My Dr. says it is alright to still do ultherapy, they will just try not to hit that area. My question, what if they do hit that area? Can you also describe your pain and when you first saw an improvement?
Thanks
September 14, 2011
Caregiver -- I just read this and here was my experience: I only have had it on the upper neck area, and yes, quite painful. I have had all kinds of injections and I am considered to be quite good with pain, according to docs. I think I am average in tolerance (never had kids, so who knows?) But the ulthera is definitely way more painful than injections. I have little fat so maybe that affected it, and the RN who did my neck said she did the whole face without any kind of medication, but anyone (including the RN) will tell you to expect a lot of pain (sorry.) If I ever get it done on my forehead I will definitely get something for that, since according to the RN when you go against bony areas it hurts even more. I am hesitant to go over areas where I had filler because most people (on this site included) say it degrades the filler, no matter what a doc will tell you. But in sum, lots of pain -- don't listen to those who say none, and as far as improvement, don't expect miracles.
August 27, 2011
Yeah, that's what they say -- and if they do hit the area, it might degrade the Radiesse a bit since it heats the lower layers (a bit beneath the Radiesse??). The pain is BAD. I took nothing for it. One place I called claimed that there is absolutely no pain and that no one experienced any -- well, then I think they are IDIOTS to claim that or it is not REAL ultherapy. Most places want you to take some kind of painkiller -- but that means you need someone to drive you home, which for me is hard to find since all the places are so far away. Some places will give local anesthetic which I think requires the doctor, not just a "specialist" doing the treatment (specialists cost less since they don't have the "doctor" behind their name.) Okay - for improvements, do NOT expect something major, but it has not been three months yet so I cannot say for sure. I had hardly any sagging to begin with, so what I see now is the teeniest bit better and hard for me to say. If I end up seeing no difference in pics, I will definitely be going back to the doc and asking why not. Some people get major change, but I had little fat and sagging to begin with. I just want to stave off the inevitable.
August 27, 2011
Oh also....call me crazy but I am thinking about trying a different place (a doctor, more expensive) for my forehead so I won;'t have to do Botox anymore, since really Botox kind of sucks for me. The forehead is supposedly even more painful and this time I will want a blocker for sure. The pain is bad, know that. If I get better results from the doc I go to as compared to the RN "specialist" who did my jaw, to me that kind of will prove that there is a difference in how the treatment is done, even though it seems to me that as long as directions are followed with care, even an RN should be able to do this well. But what do I know? I wish I could understand all this better!
September 14, 2011
Also, just so you know....yeah I know Botox is totally different from ulthera, and doesn't target the same problems....but Botox is NOT good for me since (a) lasts so little time and (b) doesn't even work EVER for me since all I want is lifting, and I don't really get those wrinkles anyway and (c) I have rarely seen someone who looks incredibly better from Botox, unless they do it to extremes like Sandra Bullock -- and then it's weirdly noticeable
September 12, 2011
Hi all,

I a newbie to posting even though I have been leeching info from all the sites. Payback time!

I picked Dr. C in Vancouver (see my method in my other post tonight). Not sure what Vancouverface paid (I am pretty sure it would be the same), my price with him was $2000 plus tax for both the cheeks and upper neck. When I was checking, his clinic quoted me the same price as my friends. No matter what form of payment, Visa, debit or cash, they charged the same. I like that because I don't trust places that prefer cash.

Nadiahoney, from my personal experience and Dr. C's advice, Ulthera is NOT a replacement for Botox. I asked him the same question and received a very definite answer = NO. He explained to me that Botox is to prevent wrinkles caused by expression. Ulthera may improve it slightly but it is no way a replacement for Botox. Don't waste your time with a more expensive place if that is what they are telling you.

Caregiver, as for the Radiesse and Ulthera, Dr. C explained to me that most of the areas we did Ulthera on are unlikely places for fillers. Even with my cheeks, he said the Ulthera shouldn't be hitting the Juvederm (I used Voluma instead of Radiesse) because he injects the Juvederm much deeper than Ulthera (4.5mm). But of course, depends on where you had your Radiesse injected and how deep.

Emily 603, Dr. W was 3rd on my list. If you read my other post and do your homework, you would understand.

I considered myself average in terms of pain tolerance. At Dr. C's no anesthetic was given (an option if you ask him). They treated me with the maximum power and I admit it stings a little but no where near as much as needing valium or strong pain killers. I didn't even need an advil! There are some immediate results and some mild swelling. I did see improvement after the first two weeks after the mild swelling settled. I am looking forward to seeing more results in the months to come.