Dysport =poison -Valpo, IN

I'm sorry that you feel my reply was a slap in the face to anyone. I was only speaking of my personal experiences. I always tell people who have any kind of issues they feel are related to a product to make a report to the manufacturers. Only then does it become a part of the medical community discussion. This patient was specifically talking about Dysport though, and I would tell you too that if you have had issues from Botox you certainly should report them to Allergan, the company that makes that product. I'm sorry for any damage you have had from the product, and like this patient, I hope things resolve for you in the future.

You reply wit such comments because it is about the money. You will never convince me that all the things I have suffered were because of other issues. You gave me hope when I first had these side effects. Two years later reality set in. It is all due to Botox/Dysport! We are living proof! How do you lay your head down at night knowing that this poison is ruining people? Feel free to send an email and I will share my pics with you directly- I'd love for you to tell me that I aged naturally 10 years in a 2 year period. I was healthy before this poison injection! As you have read what I wrote! It's all real actual facts - stay away from this poison! I have talked many out of injections and seeing my face will never go back to normal - I can help save other beautiful faces. Hopefully one day they pull this poison off the market! Making Dr.s money at our exspense!

I do not believe out have never had a person suffer from side effects. You blame it on other things. When I say we obviously know our bodies before and after. I was very healthy before this. Worked out and more. Don't sit here and say other wise! It has been reported. Like I said previously a pharmacist told me of side effects - how it travels and more. Please be honest and admit it finally. We have all suffered. All over the world. So stop saying it's not from the poison! We all know it is!

Please remember that I was trying to be helpful to you. I am speaking about my experiences just as you are about hours. I told you to get info from your doctor. To report the issues so others can possibly be aware and understand more. I do not have patients with your issues. I have not seen anyone with your issues. But I did not discount you and say anything other than to report it so it becomes a part of the community. I have tried to help and support you. I post on this site and talk to people like you for no money. I am not a terrible person actually. I'm very kind and I was trying to help you freely. Please remember that when you lash out at me.

I lashed out bc I have see what you told me and others. All the Doctors on this site say oh it must be something else. You get tired of hearing it! I'll give the benefit of the doubt to a few maybe! There's thousands who are suffering as a result from this poison! Yes, I did report my side effects to Dysport. As I have stated numerous times my side effects are from Dysport. I found studies where they have found this poison in the toes, hands, feet when the ore head was only injected. Like I said I will showe u many pictures before, right after, a year later, two years later. It was not natural aging! You just for age that fast in two years! I do not smoke(never have) drink, drugs. I do not go to bars to be exposed to second hand smoke. Nobody in my house hold smokes, drinks or does drugs. My side effects are a result from this poison. My forehead fell, my face fell, my eyes are different in shape now, I break out (never have, more wrinkles - the list goes on!!!

I will be more than happy to share my pics w/you!

Did you ever contact Dysport with your troubles?

Ariel2010 TRUST me, I'm not making anything up! You have to be kidding me right? I have nothing better to do w/ my time but go on a site and make things up! I never updated my phone and can not add pics FYI and trust me u have shared my pics w/actual real ppl!! I'm sure you're some Dr on the site trying to make me out to be the bad guy. Look at everyone else having same adverse reactions! Wish I was making this up!! Wish I never went to that appointment! So before u go and say I'm shady you better read my posts. Dr's don't want us saying our adverse reactions bc it's all about $$. In the mean time we all suffer. Call Dysport they have a case file. Spoke to pharmacist there's a lot we don't know going into this. If I did I would of left that office!! Good lol you gave me here so wish I was making this all up!! Send me a pm with your phone number I'll be glad to share pics of myself and show u others who are going thru it as well!

Definitely not a Dr or a Rx rep. I didn't say you were personally shady, I said that it "seemed" shady that anywhere I look for your photos I can't find them. I am no silly goose, and don't share my personal information, including phone number with strangers. I don't doubt people have adverse reactions, yours just seem extreme. If you do educate yourself (you as in the public - not you personally) then you'll see that there have been cases of spread of toxin, and even death caused by Botox and Dysport. Deaths were not due to cosmetic use. I also don't dismiss that it could happen one day with cosmetic use; especially if spread of toxin is a side effect no matter the site of injection. The Black Box warning is on these meds, as well as depression meds; and other meds for a reason. Rarely do these meds cause the reactions the warning is there for, but clearly they exist or the label would not. I've had Botox, hated that it caused me headache and fog for 3 days, plus extreme anxiety. Sure it goes away but it's rather frightening for 72 hours. I feel like a crazy person and am so thankful Day 4!!! I have recently had Dysport (180 units) with a 3:1 ratio to Botox in my crows feet, number 11, and forehead (to hairline). That would be 60 units of Botox. Not that you can't do math, just giving the ratio and dilution the facial plastic surgeon I go to uses. I did not feel the 72 hour anxiety and headache. He said that Dysport might be "less heavy" for me. This seemed to be the case. I did not feel the heavy elephant sitting on my forehead this time. I do have a sore throat, but my 5 year old is sick right now, and I don't stop loving on her just because she has a bug :) I had eyelid edema and red eye in right eye about 3 days after. However, two days before that symptom two of my fake lashes got into my eye and it took some time to get them out of my eye! Hurt like hell while they rolled around my eyeball. Used some pink eye antibiotic drops we had, and Zyrtec...red eye and edema gone. I guess I didn't jump to blame Dysport for the side effect/symptoms I've experienced; even though mine would be concerned "normal/common side effects" if I did do that. If what you've experienced wasn't caused due to underlying issues unknown to you, wouldn't you still agree that your case and the others you mention, while terrible personally, would be extremely rare? I believe your intent hasn't been to tell anyone what to do with their bodies, but offer insight not provided on the Black Box Warming. Again, just wish pictures could be posted, and the immense amount of stress from your experience hasn't helped your expedited rate of aging you experience. Do you try other means to decrease stress? You mention in several places how Dr won't believe you, so what do they do? Just see you and don't Dx anything and let you walk out the door?

VK! Sending pictures will help collaborate your stories. It will settle everything once and for all.

Send me pics too, I am curious. Are you posting them?

Pamela check ur pm!!

Trevoror - I have tried to upload pics a bunch. I have an iPhone never been able to update to the 7 version. Need more storage do I bought more and still couldn't. Went to Best Buy and they explained a bunch of stuff. Basically I need a new phone and nothing's wrong w/ what I have so I can't upload pics, even get a twitter acnt, games for fb nothing. Ppl have sent me pm's and I have shared my pics..

Ariel- as for black box warning I knew of none. My injector never told me a single side effect. She told me how they all did it and the Dr and his wife have. I was worried bc it was a toxin. Was asking about maybe doing fillers to fill lines and she said no u can't use those. They told me if I didn't like it I can take it out, that's what sold me. Dummy me! I did look up reviews but never seen adverse reactions I seen how ppl loved it. (Botox) that's what I thought I was getting. It was a friends Dr's office so I trusted them. Just dry eyes alone I would never have done it. You just don't go from working out daily, nine miles of cardio a day to feeling like u want to die. I ate healthy, and when I day healthy I mean no junk food, cookies, pop etc. that's why it amazes all my friends and family why I used poison!! Never smoked, did drugs, nothing. As for seeing Dr's went to a well known place and the first Dr was agreeing w/ me yes it can cause droop etc. she went and got a head specialist he blew it off and was pushing me out the door. Did not answer one question. Another Dr said oh as soon as u turn 40 you lose your face. Lol! Is what I did bc his nurse even seen difference in my face. I told him yes were all aging but I didn't age that fast in a year and he seen it to. He was like let's fix u up Botox this and that. Heck no! Never touch it again! Another Dr tried to say I was going back to what I was before. Then I said no its not look at pics my drivers license which was right before and close up. He said I'm sorry this happened to you. That there said enough! Pharmacist from Dysport told me yes you're having adverse reactions that can happen on your first time or 100 time. It does spread as well. He also said it stays in your system up to a year. I have researched it after the fact and it's to late I ruined my face. If I would of seen black box warning I would of ran out the door! Even my constant form said very minimal side effects that's it!! Nothing as to what's actually happening to me or others.. So I will continue to share my pics w/emails or texts messages and put my side effects out there. Bc it's pure heck what I am going thru.

VK! That's OK! As long as you are on top of things to make you healthier. Good luck!

VK, I am.so very interested in seeing your pictures, I read a lot about Dysport as I am suffering premature eyes dropped lids, I do appreciate all the information I can get on the subject. I usually feel very good about posting lots of pictures of myself each time I do any treatments that way people can easily judge, in other word I make my own comments of what I feel or think but ultimately the pictures are the ones to speak for itself I personally would like to see your photos posted in here, that will surely make things much easier to the readers I'm understanding your case and help others in similar situation. Let's all be fair here, respect each other and give credit to those who deserve it but let us also keep it real and provide enough evidence to support our testimony, pictures speak a million words to me. I personally go based on what I see with my own eyes and feed from photographs. Good luck to you

Hi ana Bella! If you have notice that VK has been asked numerous times including myself to post her pictures. However, she chose not to and indicate her reasons in her postings. I respect that faithfully. As VK indicated, her face is not in top condition and she is still having emotions about her face. We the readers are anxious to view her pictures, however, she feels uncomfortable doing so. I don't think she will ever post any pictures. With that in mind, we could just accept it and move on.

Trevoror-as I told u I can't update the iphone7 app. I have shared my pics!!! Through emails or texts messages. Feel free to send me a pm and I will show u before and after pics!!! Today was not the day for anyone to try and say I this or that bc the one side of my face literally looks like I had a stroke. A person I know today asked what happened to my face today!! Which of course they did not know I injected w this poison. So any of you who feel I'm makin this up or exaggerating please feel free to pm I will send u before during and after have a year of pics. The fact of the matter is Dysport is in fact destroying ppl like myself and nothing's being done about it. Trust me when I say my adverse side effects are from this poison. Biggest regret of my life!!!! Feel free pm and give me an email anyone and u will see the changes a person does not age that fast. You do not go from healthy to feeling the way I have off and on. It's from Dysport even the pharmacist from Dysport told me I was having an adverse reaction!!!

Ana Bella- trust me your face is beautiful compared to what has happened to my face. I was pretty before I injected! Send me a pm w/email or phone number I will share pics. I have w/a lot of ppl and made a few good friends as well and kit. You're right pics prove it and trust me I have 100's dated and timed w a journal as well. Haven't made anything up no reason to. Just want ppl aware of adverse effects bc I would not have injected if I found this site first.. U truly have a beautiful face and you're very lucky..

Dear VK , I will send you a pm to continue in exchange emails. In 2009 I had an allergy reaction and the doctor infected steroids in an effort to stop the allergies, that created a hormone unbalanced r resulting in severe case of Acne I suffered for years to present, my depression was very bad in July 2009 to probably a year later, I did nothing but to obsessed with my face, tried everything I heard for acne But nothing worked. I still get breakouts,.One thing I learned is to accept what is happening to me and find solutions, reason why I got the knowledge I have now as I spend years trying in figuring things out. There's a book written by a psychiatrist I found in the library, he explains the depression associated with adult acne, that's when I understood a lot of things and decided to do something about it I know your case is not acne but I associated your case with mine as to the depression part. You have been getting a tremendous amount of support and great advises maybe you perhaps try what the document wrote in this forum. Don't look at yourself ugly, beauty is not only in the outside, it is more an estate of mind.

Ana Bella- check your email.

VK! I respect your comments. There's no need for me to view your pictures. Good luck on your journey to healing.

Jill, was my first and last time!

I hope all the unpleasant symptoms go away STAT!  Such a bummer- you might want to talk to another Plastic Surgeon about the issues since the ER had no idea what Dysport was.  I know you are a busy mom (I hear that!), you could ask a question in our Doctor Q&A and see if you get some advice.  It isn't the same as seeing someone in person, of course.  I found this Q&A which isn't directly similar to the side effects you are experiencing but the Doctor advice is pretty informative and worth a read:

http://www.realself.com/question/the-dysport-side-effecs-reversibles

Has anybody tried acupuncture to help with side effects of dysport or get those muscles working again?

My doctor says I am supposedly the only person it has happened to. I went to the er yesterday the doctor had no clue what dysport even was. He said there's nothing I can do but ride it out. Today has been a very bad day for me. I have had a horrible headache all day. Along with the headache I have been puking as well. My skin is turning to leather. It was my first time and last time for dysport. I feel like I aged ten years. I have been in bed all day. Have two kids I need to take care of. Had my mom for the weekend which leaves today. I don't know what I'm going to do when she does. I have no energy to even get up and make a meal for them! Dysport to me is pure poison! Wish I can change that awful day. I will regret this my entire life.

If the irritation gets worst, please go to the nearest hospital. My guess is to follow your doctor instructions and ride it out. If it doesn't within a period of time, I would follow-up. Keep the faith and think positive.

I would like to ask if you are positive that the Dr who injected you was using legitimate Dysport manufactured in the U.S. I hate doubting what other physicians do, but it's sadly common that black or gray market drugs are used. I would encourage you to get the vial/lot number from your injector and confirm with Medicis that this was even one of their products. Their customer support number is (877) 361-2719. It's awful that this could happen, but it really sometimes does, so start there. After that, assuming it was true Dysport, find out how many units were used on you. A normal dosage for a full treatment which would be for the glabella (between the brows), full forehead, and crow's feet is about 150 units. If a great deal more than that was used, that could be a slight contributor to some of this, maybe. A vial from Medicis only has 300 units total so unless they used many, many vials on you, I have a hard time believing it's that, but just find out the units anyway. Did they happen to use a numbing cream of any kind on you before the injections? It would be rare for any kind of issue to persist this long after numbing cream, but a rash or something can occur if you have a bad reaction to the numbing cream itself. If yes, find out what kind of numbing cream (the % and ingredients) were used. I have not heard of Chinese meds or acupuncture being used to help with neuromodulator problems. Water isn't going to help - really it's about time (and confirmation of all of the above) - and time is not always easy to be patient for! Let me know the answers and let's see if we can figure some of this out. Also, just know, the ER isn't always going to know everything. I went to the ER for a gall bladder attack earlier in the year and my doctor there didn't know a basic brand name of a blood pressure medication I was taking. It's really not their job to know about Dysport, nor would they have experience with it. Sadly, you are the first and only person I know with anything like this! But let's see if we can figure some things out.