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UPDATED FROM taazop
Nov 14 th , over 3 months past now , finally got...
taazopNovember 13, 2012
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nov 14 th , over 3 months past now , finally got letter from docs asst . telling me now for the first time that only structural fixes were done and that even though he promised the aesthetic and desired changes , that would have only been done as a " courtesy " as insurance would only cover cost of structural damages , and he just wasnt able to get to it . so even though he promised to fix bump on nose and give me a good profile , and even though he promised to thin down sides of bridge to make it just a bit thinner , only now is he admitting that he did none of these things because it wouldve costed more than my insurance was covering . i had a broken nose and deviated septum , i do breathe better , but my nose is still bent to one side and he promised several times to improve the aesthetic appearance in the process . he promised " no more beak " just as i was walking back to operation room as i pressed him to get it right ... now he has his asst send me a letter telling me it wouldve only been a courtesy which he decided while in the operation not to extend to me . i wouldve gone to another doc if i knew he was just sales pitchin me pre op to get a customer as i still have a bent nose ... now i think the dude is a scumball as before ive always stated the guy seemed cool , or maybe im being impatient , but now i realize there is nothing to wait for , there isnt goin to be an improvement at all to wait for , it will still be huge and beakish ...i basicly got screwed ... funny thing is my spouse is a nurse in the same healthcare system he works in , where word " could " travel fast , so im amazed ... just amazing ... and she sat with me in pre op inteviews with him where he made certain promises . im not makin this stuff up . she was also sitting there in the pre op where the last thing he said to me when i said " get this right , only one chance " , and he smiled an said " no more beak i promise youll have a great profile " ... go figure >>> so thats it for me , there will be nothing more to report on as i know there is nothing to be hopeful for ... take care everybody , thank you for kind words ... be careful everybody , do your research , dont just believe a guy because he has a great education . or he seems like a cool guy ... get all expectations and promises in writing ...
UPDATED FROM taazop
And if you look at pics from the left it just...
taazopOctober 26, 2012
and if you look at pics from the left it just looked so much better pre op , it had strucure and shape and a tip ! now it looks chopped of and wierd ... see pics
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Tsui
October 27, 2012
hi Tim, your nose post op is straighter ... but still very swollen, especially at the tip ... have you tried gentle massage to bring down the swelling ? I am at 4 months post op, and also frustrated with the fluctuating swelling, swollen middle vault and tip. About 2 weeks ago, I decided to gently massage the swollen areas ... smear nose with arnica montana cream, then gently massage in a downward direction, also put digital pressure on spongy areas for up to a minute each time ... did this several times a day ... my swelling has gone down ... looking better ... but still a way to go. Remember guys do swell longer ...
taazop
October 28, 2012
ive done the massaging , and i appreciate the suggestion , i just think it looks ugly as hell , you can still see how much it leans to one side , and the sides of bridge are unchanged , i asked him to thin both sides in so as its not so damn wide , didnt happen , asked him to shape the profile so its not such a beak , didnt happen .. i told him my nostrils are huge , which they are he said hed fix that , didnt happen , i had to talk myself into doing this , i felt almost a bit conceited or self involved or insecure , i dont know , whatever for even doing this ...but it was truly broken and i couldnt even breathe thru the right side at all , so i went for it just knowing in the back of mind it was gonna be a disaster ... but whatever im done ... im not gonna go all michael jackson on my nose , ill never do this again cause i just dont trust a doc to touch my face ever again , so ive got what he left me with
taazop
October 28, 2012
also on the top right side of my bridge there is now a lump of bone protruding out that you can see the skin rounding over ... i never had that before , its smooth on the left side and then this lump on the right side , its wierd ... i guess he was trying to file down up there and just missed it or left a lump , i dont know ...
taazop
October 28, 2012
and look at the pic from the right side , its frikkin huge , im almost at three months , im miles and miles away from anything close to what i talked to the doc about , its like a bad joke has been played on me involving my face being opened up in the process
October 27, 2012
Did your MD recommend this surgeon based on his aesthetic skills or the probability of him fixing your breathing problems or both?
October 28, 2012
he was recommended based on the health care organization they were all affiliated with . the doc has an excellent education , and reputation based on his structural and aesthetic skills , i just feel like my repeated assertions as to my aesthetic desires were disregarded completely although he provided a slightly better structural breathing ability
October 28, 2012
Tim, we hear your frustrations loud and clear ... at 3 months, you are not fully healed yet ... the swelling will continue to fluctuate ... I read somewhere that the 3 to 6 months is the hardest (besides the first week), and I myself am beginning to understand why ... also read somewhere noses that are thin and perfect in the early stages tend to become pinched at 1 year n may even collapse later on, while those that are wide and larger after surgery look good and natural at 1 year ... please be patient ... if indeed you are still not happy after 1 year, a good revision PS can make it good again.
October 28, 2012
ok thank you , i know i sound freaked out , maybe im being paranoid i guess , never had a surgery before , maybe my expectations are unrealistic , but id figured id see something even relatively close to what i was looking for ... i certainly hope your right , but i cant invision an amount of swelling to get me to where i want to be
October 28, 2012
but you gotta admit , from the side i sure look like jimmy durante , not good ...
October 28, 2012
haha, you still have your SOH ... no, I do not ... I see a nose post surgery with a very swollen tip that will deswell and become smaller n slimmer ... one other thing, I notice that pics taken at home especially in the bathroom look terrible n somehow show a bloated nose, while pics taken outside in natural light look better ... recently I went overseas, returned home n noticed that my nose did look smaller (in the same bathroom mirror) after 6 weeks ... if you can, go on holiday n forget about your nose for a while ... enjoy all the wonderful things in life !
October 28, 2012
i wish that were the case as far as pic is concerned , but my eyes , hair , face , chin , cheeks all look normal .... and then my nose is to look bloated ? i dont think so , it is what it is , but i appreciate the nice thought . im gonna take down pics tomro as i dont like leaving them up ...
October 29, 2012
and at the end of the day who wants a revision , these docs have the education , the skill , you look them in the eyes and explicitly tell them what your looking for , why is there a need for a revision ? thats like going to get you brakes fixed , them not fixing them and telling you , oh well just bring the car back and pay us again and we promise we'll get it right this time ...
October 30, 2012
Hi Tim,
I'm very sorry that you're disappointed with your results and at the end of the day, it is YOU that has to (and deserves) to be happy. I noticed that you're in Scottsdale and that's why I decided to reply. Please see Dr. Paul Holden...he is a facial plastic surgeon and he is a brilliant doctor (not to mention, a truly genuine and caring individual). Rhinoplasty is his "first love"...he is a revision specialist as well. He has such an artistic eye and will let you know what will look natural and how he'll "correct" your problem. He will NEVER push you to do anything and only has his patients' best interest at heart. Just explain to him exactly what you're unhappy with and what you'd like and I highly doubt you'll be disappointed. He is a truly gifted surgeon with an amazing aesthetic eye for perfection. I've literally spent hours with him and his patience and support has never been short than 100%. I've also read about prior patients being able to "work out" a payment plan as well. I guarantee you that Dr. Holden will do whatever he can to help you...he TRULY cares!
October 30, 2012
thank you , ill contact him and show him my results to at least get his point of view on my results and what my expectations should be at this point . but if i know certain things werent even addressed then a certain result couldnt be expected ... sucks cuz my doc was cool , i liked him well enuf . he just didnt do the things we talked about prior to op ... its crazy to me
October 30, 2012
Just FYI since I just read my reply again and I meant to say his patience and support "have been nothing less than 100%"...I'm a little OCD with my grammatical errors...lol! Anyways, it truly does amaze me (and it IS crazy) when I hear countless stories of patients saying their doctors did not do what they asked. Do they just have a mindset of what they want or think what would look best with total disregard for the patients' desires? I assure you that Dr. Holden will listen and listen carefully. He will offer his opinions on what would look natural, proportionate and aesthetically pleasing on YOU. But again, he will not push you into anything either. If you have a desired "look" that differs from his, he will work WITH you. I really hope you do see him...I think he'll provide you with valuable insight. Just FYI, he performed an under eye fat transfer on me and trust me, after reading the countless horror stories (especially from this sight where less than 50% were satisfied with their results), I would've cancelled altogether. But I trusted Dr. Holden and it's probably one of the best decisions I've ever made.
October 29, 2012
I always thought men should have large noses? I am a straight woman and I think men with large or "big" noses are really attractive, I don't think I could date a man with a little or dainty nose ;P anyways take care.
October 30, 2012
Didn't say I wanted a " dainty " nose .. When I got broken it created a sort of hook or beak look to it I was hoping to get it more straight . But thanks for the heads up
October 29, 2012
Let me ask you something, does your tip feel hard or does it feel normal (like it did before surgery). If it's still hard, then you still have swelling and that doesn't surprise me at all. The tip will take the longest to get back to normal which is why, as you said, it looks "chopped off." I don't think it does though, you are just experiencing a lot of swelling. I'd love to see your results about 6 months from now and then at the year mark.
October 30, 2012
Definately still way hard and swollen at top , if that corrects what I think is that chopped off look then I'll be happy ... Believe me if at 6 months it all looks good I'll update my pics . I just notice certain things that remain exactly the same as pre op
October 30, 2012
and look at the pics from the right side , jesus the hook is even bigger than when i started ive seen multiple amounts of pics at three months with huge differences , i have yet to hear a single comment from a surgeon that says ..." oh yeah , your nose is supposed to look bigger , huge and beaky at three months , its gonna de-swell to half that size , and the bridge will straighten out " ...
UPDATED FROM taazop
So tell me folks is this a disaster or what , pre...
taazopOctober 26, 2012
so tell me folks is this a disaster or what , pre op pics without a doubt much better , ill say it again wish i didnt do this , tip is now chopped off , no change in profile at all ... front slightly , almost no difference at all slightly straighter . why did i do this . doc didnt listen to anything i requested bridge still wide and bent , i asked for doc to call me on message , his assistant , who is anice lady as is the doc a nice guy calls me back but doc wont call me back , anfd to be honest , when he does im gonna blow up on him im so pissed right now . i had my face ripped open for this ! it was bent to the left before op because it was broken so it looked more beaky from my right side , and right now it looks still bent to left side and still incredibly huge from the right , actually even huger than before ... its all in the pics ...
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