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Revision Rhinoplasty - Richmond Hill, ON

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Intervention needed after one unsuccessful...

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Nina13100
$12,000
Intervention needed after one unsuccessful procedure, performed 5 years earlier by someone else. The bridge was over-reduced, leaving a bump just below the forehead and the tip of the nose much too big. Revision was supposed to eliminate the bump at the "starting point" of the nose, and this was well done by dr Conrad. Nose was broken once again to narrow the bones. Result is so-so. Nose is too large in the middle of its height. The tip needed big reduction, which was done much too slightly. Dr Conrad wanted to force me to go with implants to rebuild the bridge. I did not want any implants which can give a lot of problems later on. Wanted a smaller nose, with no implants.

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Kris Conrad, MD

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March 17, 2014
Sorry to hear about your unsuccessful surgeries. I can relate to your situation. I had one rhino in 2001 which left me with asymmetric tip and nostrils and a wide nose. Next week I am scheduled for a revision. I hope you can get your nose fixed soon. Good luck.
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March 17, 2014
I don't blame you for not wanting implants. I wouldn't want them either. Did he mention cartilage grafting at all? Not sure if this would work in your case, but it worked quite well for me. Will you be seeking another revision or are you prepared to find peace with your current nasal structure?
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March 25, 2014
I had 2 small cartilage implants. One taken from my nose which dissolved completely, but was not really necessary in my opinion (dr Conrad put it on my bridge). The second one taken from my ear was put on the side of my nose, to balance the inverted S, while looking at the front of my face. This one is still in place. I do not want any more revisions. I am 45 yo and have already developed some other health problems. So I am much more cautious about undergoing any further surgeries. I just keep trying to balance with my haircut what sticks too much from my face. I posted my review because I want to be honest. And help the others to make wise decisions. I am not saying that dr Conrad is a very bad surgeon. My nose was ruined during the first surgery performed in Poland and was not easy to fix. But paying such a large amount of money to someone who promised "to make me happy" and considered himself the best in the world was a mistake. And spending so many years waiting for the swellings to go off. Not to mention the whole trouble of undergoing several interventions. I am strongly "invited" to share my post-op photos, so I will attach them. Thanks for all kind comments from people who understand such situations.
January 1, 2015
Hi . Thank you for you honesty . I had just a consult opinion with dr Conrad regarding injury from a filler and he absolutely is not the best in fact he is very arrogant . He told me u are stuck with that filler is not dissolvable and you have two choices 1 u gonna have to live with it for couple years and 2 jump in front of the train but U are not that stupid to do that . Having said that it's really sad he considers himself to be the best in the world . He is not . To be the best he needs to be HONEST with patient and about the patient . I'm sorry what happen to you but there are still professional knowledgable caring dr out there that can help you and they don't talk as being the best their work does .
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6 years post

Unsuccessful revision rhinoplasty

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September 2, 2014
Your nose looks really really good. I don't understand why you would want the nose you have simulated in the 'what I wanted' picture. It looks unnatural and unattractive. Who wants a pinched tip?! Further, it would be too small for your face. In fact, even your current nose is slightly smaller than the nose on average woman. You should be extremely happy with your nose. Do yourself a favor: see a therapist. You might have BDD that needs addressing. You certainly do not need any more surgery.
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December 6, 2014
I agree - your nose looks very good. Please believe us!
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December 14, 2014
Are you Dr Conrad's relative ? Close friend ? It seems so. You go and see BDD. I know what I need. I know what I was asking for and what was done and not done. And I know what a crazy amount of money I spent on a Doctor who considered himself to be the best in the world.
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December 14, 2014
I meant "therapist" not "BDD", sorry. Too fast writing.
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December 14, 2014
I seldom read the comments on this site so I will allow myself to write the last one. I never said that Dr Conrad did a very bad job. In fact he has improved what the previous surgeon has completely messed with. But he has improved it A LITTLE BIT. If I pay 12,000 $, which was twice as much as any other surgeon at that time was asking me for, I have the right to expect EXCELLENCY. And not the SO-SO result. I wanted my nose well balanced, so that my face would look really harmonious from each side. And not something I would have to mask with a new haircut or makeup. That's big misunderstanding. I still don't know whether I will go on with rhinoplasty again. As for now, I am completely fed up with it - 4 surgeries that's more than enough. I just don't understand why Dr Conrad, who was cutting my nose 3 times, couldn't go a little bit further and create a well balanced, smaller tip. And remove the asymmetrical scar on the left side. My pics are showing the REAL RESULTS of Dr Conrad's work. I am presenting them to help the others to make reasonable decisions. If someone likes them, he or she should go on with Dr Conrad. If someone has doubts as to the beauty of my nose, he/she should rather choose another surgeon. That's fair enough of me I guess. And one more thing. I still consider comments on my "real issues in my life which I should discuss with a therapist" really rude and unacceptable. It is SO LOW for surgeons who did a bad job to accuse his patients of mental unstableness, too high expectations and so on. They should discuss it with their patients BEFORE they schedule them for surgeries and accept their money. I am convinced that people who have written comments on my pics are working for Dr Conrad, who is a very popular person in Toronto. And who is rich enough to hire people who will try to intimidate unsatisfied patients and prevent them from harming his business. So I do not expect any comments. I am showing my pics for other people who are considering rhinoplasties with Dr Conrad. That's all. I am almost 50 yo person who does not need hugging and kissing and assuring that everything will be OK. I can handle my own life by myself. Which does not mean I will be happy about my nose which could have been done much better. That's all I have to say.
December 7, 2014
I agree with the other commenters. Your nose looks fine. just the right size 4 your other features. it looks natural for your face. if you are still unhappy I suggest a new hairdo, perhaps a color change and new makeup. I would see a counselor, work on other areas of your life that are making you unhappy. often woman obsess about appearance rather than dealing with the real issues in life. your nose is very pretty as is, thank your doctor. christina
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December 14, 2014
You agree with other commenters ? Which ones ? Most of them do not consider this job to be successful at all ! And please do not dare to comment on the real issues in my life, as you know nothing about me being happy or unhappy. You advise me to see a counselor ??? You go to a counselor and work on other areas of your life if you wish so. It is more than rude to give to someone you don't know such advices. You seem to work for Dr Conrad or be one of his friends or maybe one of patients involved with him emotionally. Save yourself such rude comments, please. And if you like my nose, go to him, he will probable manage to do the same for you. Be prepared to pay 12,000 $ for this wonderful GIFT.
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7 years post

6 years after last intervention by Dr Conrad

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December 14, 2014
Iv had several revisions myself so I understand however your nose is really pretty and attractive . You could benefit from some cheek fillers . Your simulated nose looks like what I ended up with and I'm trying to get a nose like you have now . If you had that tiny pinched nose it would make you look old . I'm just being honest with you :) .
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March 10, 2015
I am almost 50 yo and do not want to have a childish look anymore. And I have it all the time. This swollen and stiff tip does not want to "settle down" even more than 6 years after the last intervention. I will probably have to find an European surgeon who will be able and will not be afraid to remove the half of it. Yes, I want to look older and more mature. This childish look of my face is a huge problem once I want to get a serious job or to get promoted. I never wanted to look cute ! And Dr Conrad knew about it - I mentioned it to him several times. In response to previous commenters - my face is not round and not wide, so the small and SLIM nose would surely look fine. And I do not need any cheek implants. I did a lot of simulations, with the help of a video camera too, and all I need is a smaller and slimmer tip of my nose. And I will never understand why Dr Conrad, so great and skilled as he considers himself to be, was unable to do what he was asked for. During 3 surgeries he performed on me.
December 14, 2014
Personally, I think the "nose you want" is not attractive at all judging from the photo. It looks so "worked on". I understand not wanting implants but unfortunately too many people have this idealized idea of noses that don't fit their faces and/or can't be accomplished by the surgeon.
December 16, 2014
Have to agree with Doerman620, The nose you want does not fit your face or look good at all. I think what you have now is cute and attractive and there is nothing wrong with it
December 16, 2014
Thanks for agreeing Peonia. I speak as a nurse practitioner and as someone who had rhinoplasty and repair of deviated septum in 1986. My bridge was flat, my PS created a bridge, no grafts, foreign substances, etc. It is a nose that now fits my face. I know people want to be pleased with their results after undergoing the expense and discomfort of surgery as did I. Nina, please look again at what you want. I personally know a lady who has a very small nose naturally. It is not attractive as she has a very round face. Small nose does not=better nose. Best of luck!
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February 22, 2016
I looked at all your photos, and based on looks alone, I would KILL to have a nose as good as yours. I am much younger than you and I don't mean to impede on your desires, but your nose is pretty much perfect. It suits your face, it looks natural, and it doesn't look childish so you don't need to worry about that. I suggest you take a look at my review and see what a "unsuccessful" rhinoplasty really looks like. I know you may not be happy with the outcome, but if I were you, I wouldn't mess with things. You are already at the top as far as I'm concerned, choose to have more surgery and I guarantee you it will only go downhill from here.
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May 25, 2016
I just looked through your pics and wrote a comment there. So I will only say here that you should be very careful as to your decision about revision rhino. Your result is not perfect, but it is not THAT BAD. Apparently, we both have very different tastes, you wanted what I have and vice versa. I would be much more happy having your nose, honestly.
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May 25, 2016
I read your comment. It was very sweet of you to take the time to write that, thank you.
The grass is always greener on the other side, I suppose.

I agree that my tip area/lower third is the worst. My bridge is not good and has pebble like bumps on it and I may need spreader grafts because it is slightly too thin on the side walls. My nose shows up so differently in all different pictures because I have so many issues and asymmetries that they create different shadowing in all different lighting/angles.
So even if a couple pictures look okay, it's as bad as the worst ones in real life.
I feel I am still going to address ALL issues with my nose still, but I will take your advice and caution myself from over-correcting.
Trust me, I worry about every single possible bad outcome even if it may not apply to my situation.
But having my nose as is, is worse than all the stress of wondering what could go wrong..again.

As for your nose, your first pictures looked to me like your dorsum was higher so I apologize for assuming it was perfect. I probably just saw the tip and the rest of it (which I still think is amazing) and rushed into my comment.
Your most recent photos tho, the ones you just posted, I do see that the dorsum is quite low (seen from the side) and in that respect, I completely understand why you would be uncomfortable with it.
I agree that it is usually a characteristic of a young child.

Are you thinking of revision still?
I think the tip area is more difficult than the bridge area so maybe you will have better luck than me in getting that remedied.
A good doctor should be able to use your natural tissues and it won't make your nose bigger, it will just make your side profile look straighter instead of "child-like".
I wouldn't change anything but the dorsum height if I were you tho, I think everything else about your nose is really good. It looks like a natural nose to me.
And you say you wanted a tiny nose?
I think you have just that.
Not too tiny.
But the first thing I saw when I looked at your nose was that it was small and delicate.

I just wish doctors would do there job properly and take the patient's individual aesthetics seriously, I hate to see so many of us suffer. There are so many complications from rhinoplasty, even us two fall on different parts of the spectrum of "poor" results yet we are equally as unhappy.
It just doesn't seem right.
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July 6, 2016
Not sure if you ever got a chance to read the comment above. ^^ it was in response to the one you posted on my profile.

Just checking in, I hope you are alright.