Removal of Bad Microblading

Hey,
No significant changes on my end.. the brows healed relatively fast as they were very gentle during the process so I really didn’t scab as much as I would have liked. I was hoping to complete at least two treatments before the summer but with weekly swimming sessions I may need to delay. Are you planning to do anymore sessions?

Hey! No major changes as well but yes I’m thinking end of June going back to do second session

Although we didn’t see huge improvements we haven’t had any setbacks so far so staying positive that the 2nd session will left a bit more of the pigment.. since microneedling sounds similar in technique as the saline removal I wonder if they could combine it some way?

I’m going to ask that after I see how the second removal goes.

I previously scheduled my 2nd appointment for today and was going to cancel due to swimming however, they told me that it should be fine and to proceed.. I will keep you posted on the outcome. Wish me luck!

Oh thanks for sharing did you ask them about the microneedling and did you also ask them to target the areas a bit more in order for it to scab by any chance?

Also I don’t know about getting them wet tho. The whole point is for them to get dry and scab??

I asked about the microneedling and we are going to try it in the next session. She said she went lighter on the 1st treatment to see how my skin would react and went over the brows more this time around. I raised my concern about getting them wet but since my class isn’t until next Tuesday they feel I should have developed scabs by then. I thought the same thing in keeping them as dry as possible.

I’m going to gauge how they’re scabbing by Tuesday to determine if I will skip swimming or not..

I’m going to gauge how they’re scabbing by Tuesday to determine if I will skip swimming or not..

Sounds good! Wishing you an awesome results who did the removal this time?

Btw that sounds kind of strange that’s why she said about the test patch? She went deeper to see how skin reacted then she did first session and it didn’t scan now she saying the same thing?? And now she’s giving more passes second session this sounds weird. Shouldn’t it be the same technique all the way through every session? Just feeling confused about the way the session is going.

I think they approach it differently. Ashley did the patch test for me and Vanessa has done both treatments so far. I asked the same question re: not having any scabbing in comparison to the patch test. I’m guessing Vanessa is being more cautious but I need this pigment gone. I noticed that she wipes the brows when she is finished which may be removing the fluid that is needed to form a scab as yet again I awoke this morning to no scabs. I appreciate her concern with causing damage but I need these treatments to be effective.

I’m going to see what results I get this time and if the same I may need to start looking at other technicians as I want to ensure that I’m not subjecting my skin to damage if it isn’t going to yield results.. I may just need to hop on a plane and pay Carol Packman a visit!

Right!! Hey beginning this become skeptical of the technique there using because at first they said it may not scab but the point is to have it scab?? I don’t know I might start looking else where also I don’t want to keep scaping the skin with no results I get they do it gently but how many times it’s going to take way over 3 sessions from what I’m beginning to see.

I don’t know why it say hey just becoming skeptical is what I was trying to say

I agree with you as although they’re being gentle if we subject the skin to frequent scraping it may increase the chances of damage.. Day 3 and still no scabs. It hurt a bit more this time around.. I truly think that with her wiping the brows once complete that it removes the lymphatic fluid that aids in scabbing but that’s my assumption

I agree I’m not an expert but she wipes it away to fast I think there great like I said before friendly customer service but it all comes down to her technique I’ve watched a lot of videos and seen pics the way mines came out isn’t what I been reading and looking at. They say it might not scab?? It’s supposed to ..lol is what I don’t understand why they say it may not . They use the lift solution if you look at there website and anyone who uses it they make the brow bleed let the solution sit for a bit then wipe .. she just scapes adds solution and wipes right away?? I don’t know been thinking of trying phi removal patch test it first as I’m scared it’s more harsh that’s why I didn’t go with it. She also did not target the area I wanted she just randomly went over it.

I agree with you regarding the technique and that I think we would benefit a bit more if she allowed the solution to remain in the area a tad longer.. if I go with them again I’m going to request the technician who did my patch test as I scabbed shortly after the treatment was done! 5 days later and I have only developed a slight scab to the front of one of my brow and it appears as one is developing on the other. I’m plan to give them a call regarding the results thus far as it’s going the same way as the 1st treatment. I initially was going to do a phi patch test and then decided to go this route..so far I have had patch tests of saline and laser so I might as well add Phi to the list!

Hey! Let me know what route you take if you try another method there’s a few master trainers who do removals in GTA I think the “master artist “ is more educated than the “phi artist” I guess they’ve taken more courses but at the end of the day is this ever going to come off is the question? :( So many contradictions which is best method for removal which is not I’m loosing hope this sucks!

Hey!!
Please don’t lose hope..we are going through this together and WILL get results. I developed a bit more scabbing on the right brow that still hasn’t totally sloughed off yet. Prior to delving into saline removal I was going to try a patch test of phi removal.. yes there are quite a few master trainers however, I have received contradictory information. Some indicate that I’m a good candidate while others felt my skin would be prone to damage. I may do one more additional saline treatment before attempting Phi.. just not sure if I will use the same technician or try someone else. How are your brows and when do you plan to do another treatment?

Hi! Yes it’s comforting to know where in this together along with others in the same unfortunate boat! I don’t know if I want to use the same technician either and I do have some damage above my brow wondering if it was because of the technique and going over where I told her not to but she said there was nothing wrong with the skin when I knew it would damage it because I examine my brows very well to know better than them ..they don’t really check to see if the skin is scard because it appears not to be doesn’t mean it isn’t. Anyhow I do want to do another saline session but it’s scary because who do you turn to and can they make it worse?? Do they know what there doing ? So many questions and no guarantees ... and wishful thinking some are lucky some are Not I just wish I could find someone who wasn’t in the states and had a portfolio of removals and knows what there doing. So I don’t know what my next move is?? And where I’m going with this.

I feel your frustration. I’m sorry to hear that you’re skin was damaged. I think it’s worth giving them a call to inform them of it as they specialize in skin and may have a treatment to minimize the scar. You’ve raised a great question...who to choose next? I guess it’s back to researching

Yepp!

Hi all! Hope you all
Are well ...and healing has been coming along... Just dropping in to see if there’s any updates? How’s everyone healing?

Wow, that's amazing to have pigment gone in some areas already! Took me 3 Phi-Removal sessions, plus some home sessions. The redness will take time. I personally find the red so much easier to cover with make up than pigment.

Sorry that your also faced with rectifying your PMU but glad that you have a post to refer to with others facing the same issue. Did you have the removal done by someone or did you perform on your own? I’m curious about the glycolic/saline combo used. The redness may be due to the short turnaround time between the microblading and removal.. it should subside once it heals. Please keep us updated.

From my understanding phi removal is a harsher treatment on the skin vs. Saline removal it depends on the skin as well. And especially on technique ...when she did the procedure if she scrapped the skin deep and hard ... it could have caused a lot of inflammation... did you bleed a lot? Was your pigment very dark? Also be very careful with lazer and choose wisely not all pigments are suitable for lazer removal especially if it has iron oxide find out what brand of pigment she used and the and what is in it before lazering it ..because it can turn darker and leave you with a bigger headache to deal with that’s why some people opt for saline and phi removal.... when I got the saline done she does not over work the skin but scrapes it enough to open the skin and put the saline solution in it. It has lightened but it takes time and several treatments and a lot of patience however full removal is not necessarily always possible if anyone guarantees you that run... because there not being honest. I’m sorry you have to deal with this we know how you feel and it sucks. Also the more removals the more potential for skin damage can occur but that’s a chance we all take because that’s how much we hate it and want it off but with proper after care hopefully all ends up healing well. Wishing you a speedy recovery from this but it does take time and it is a scary process. We all want the same thing Removal and for it to magically disappear. Unfortunately it’s not that easy :(

Also if it is very swollen try applying ice place it in a ziplock and wrap a thin towel over it so it doesn’t get the brows wet but just enough coolness that can perhaps reduce the swelling.

I've had three Phiremoval sessions and this never happened. Please go see a doctor as soon as possible.

We’re you able to try any of the suggestions provided? Any change in the swelling?

Hey how are the “brows” ? Notice any change? I’m still getting anxiety over this it feels like it’s never going away all I do is put vitamin E on this and it’s still red in colour over the brow feeling hopeless that this red tinge will never go away. There’s a blog I read the other day but the girl had laser which is not an option for me then she did microneesling and it really helped remove the red colour... I also got skin damage and I don’t think it’s going to go away maybe eventually in time it a small raised bump noticeable to me. There’s no colour on it anymore thank god cause I can’t go over that anymore as it will cause permanent noticeable damage. Such a scary process. But I know I have to keep going to get rid of this mess.