Life Style Lift: Don't Do It! See my Photos. Plymouth Meeting, PA

Hi I was thinking of doing lifestyle lift in the months to come and you said you had it done and ur incision is behind your ears , I am assuming they did a good job with you. I was wondering if you could tell me what doctor you went to. uglyscars didn't say the name of her doctor and I don't wanna make the same mistake and go to him ( or her),becauseI live close to plymouth meeting also. I would rather go to someone that I know is not going to mess me up. I am not rich and I wouldn't have to money to go repair my face if they did that to me. I would apreciate your help. Thank you very much . Tamersangel

Thank you all for your posts. I was just reading the ads for LSL and knew they were too good to be true. I went to a Plastic Surgeon and did my due diligence researching the doctor. Luckily, I was just having Restyline (sp). He couldn't hit my nerve in my chin. He gave me at least 13 injections of numming agent. I had many of the Restyline shots without the benefit of a numming agent. I can tolerate pain and dealt with it but my body rebelled in spite of me and I went into shock. What an awful experience and, after all of that, the treatment lasted less than 3 months. $1500 and all that pain and horrible brusing for 3 months of benefit. I would never do that again. I had to tell everyone at work about the procedure or everyone would have thought that I was horribly beaten. I was told that I would have slight brusing. I looked like I went 10 rounds with Ali in his good days. I really looked the best when I still had the swelling from the procedures. I think the bottom line is that we can never be sure about these physicians unless we were to see and talk to past patients that had the procedures that the physican didn't recommend. Thanks to everyone for your postings. They really gave me a good perspective. I look good enough!

The scars on Ugly Face should never have been in front of her ears. Another thing, LL doesn't go to the underlying muscular tissue so it is a very superficial lift that won't last. If they are charging $6000, go get a full face lift from a board certified plastic surgeon for about $8500 in St. Pete and Tampa from Dr. C. com. I haven't got FL from him but he is reputable and I am happy with other procedures I've had with him and would go to him if I could ever get the money together.

did you see my scars as well? no one at LSL cared one bit just keep telling me what a great result I had... click on my pictures to see.

pretty telling

I was so stupid and am ashamed of what they did to me --

I was really dumb back then, going thru a painful divorce, I should have never let them convince me to wait a year for the "full result"
then that creep Byron Milner claimed he would represent me in a law suit....he worked for LSL. I got taken not once but twice.

When did you have your (so-called Lifestyle Lift) done? Have you had stitches popping out of your skin? Mine was 6 years ago and still suffering from it.

Please, when you go have another surgery be sure to tell them that you DO NOT want VICRY on your skin!!!nMonocryl please. It does not spit and makes a very nice scar. You know there will always be a scar. but the suture in what spot will limit those scars. Never use anyting any bigger on the face than 4-0. The 2-0 vicryl is okay for the muscle tacking but NOT THE SKIN, that would be 4-0 and if the doc is really nice a 5-0 in front of the ear......someone hear said they should not cut in front of the ear but there is NO OTHER WAY TO DO THIS SURGERY. When you LIFT the skin, it MUST rotate UP in front of the ear and V at the bottom of the ear just like a V neck on a shirt. This is procedurely correct.

Please give me a MD in Los Angeles that has done a good job on the lifestyle lift

do you mean for a revision?

Can you tell me where you got your procedure? I am contemplating getting this done.

the office I had my procedure done in was in Plymouth Meeting PA. They shut down that shop and did relocate to Voorhee's NJ right off Rt 73 near Cherry Hill NJ.

charming

why would you consider this? go to the top of this page and click on my photo's
if that doesn't make you want to reconsider other options I don't know what would.

Hi! Regardless of all the negative comments I read, I have just had my life style lift done a week ago. I had it done in Bellevue, WA and I am so pleased even just after a week. The surgery itself was not painful at all. I also had the full face laser with emphasis on the upper and lower lips. My face is somewhat swollen but to be expected. I am healing very well and faster than I expected. I had a very, very caring doctor who decided since I had a few medical conditions that I should have the facelift done one day and the laser the next day. He was awesome. The nurses and people there were wonderful. They were in constant contact with me before and still are afterwords. The doctor I had is also one of the directors of lifestyle lift. I cannot wait to see the end result after the swelling is gone. It will be awesome and I am so happy I did it. I did so much research before I had this done and of all the information I collected, Bellevue, We was the place for me and when I arrived I knew it was for me. I would definitely recommend this procedure to anyone and everyone. All my paperwork was signed the day of the surgery and I was NEVER given any paperwork after I was medicated. The doctor I had was Dr. David Santos. I don't know why people won't give names out but if I can help someone with someone who is very good, I will give you his name. I would not consider any other state to have it in except Washington. I am from North Dakota so I flew to Washington to have this done. If you or anyone would like to talk to me about my results you are welcome to call me at 701-284-6605.

what you describe is not at all what my experience was - as you can see from my photos -- I am gathering your face was not stitched up like mine was.

I do have all the stitches in front and behind the ears. Mine look like they are closer to the ear than yours are. Did yu do all that should have been done like Vaseline around the ears everyday? SHower and rub cocoa butter and massage the area? The scars you have that I see looks like the surgery on my forearm when I had a nerve release done. That was done 12 years ago and it still looks fresh. Also had open heart surgery and you can barely see that scar at all. Like I said before... and this is not to minimize anything that you have gone through, it all depends how your body heals and what you can do to help it get better. Apparently there is nothing you can do legally now so you need to maybe grow your hair long to cover it up or something. I just wanted to post something positive about this because there are good/great doctors out there if you are willing to do your homework, especially for the face. i am so sorry for what happened to you and there is an exception to every rule but "THANK GOD" mine went very, very well and gets betetr every day.

no no and no.
my body heals very well, I was given NO POST OP instructions--no product in the world would have helped my scars...and you are right....my boyfriend told the "surgeon" they looked like emergency appendectomy suturing and scars.

grow my hair long?

I work in a sterile hospital environment hair must be worn back at all times.

thanks for your concern ---

So what are your choices left on this. Apparently the statue of limitations is over, the surgeon refuses to correct it and I guess I would not let him touch me again, attorneys can't touch it if you have no other plastic surgeons to rebuff his BS. What is left? You are just supposed to live with it? After all you have gone through, would you trust another surgeon no matter who it was? Believe me, I do sympathize with you very much so and I am so sorry this happened to you or anyone else. This is probably one of the reasons insurances do not pay for these elective surgeries. Maybe they know more than we do. Is there any way you can get your medical records from them so you can at least have it looked in to by an expert and give you some options? Just sayin.

There is some Board of PS that takes stories like yours. Like the Better Business Bureau. It allows a claim to be marked on the surgeon and goes on his record. It's a start. I think your PS doesn't want to commit because of retrobutions. Where was this done? Keep blasting the media about this through local stations.I know of someone who got so much air time they settled out of court. Not on LSL, but on a situation that was very disfiguring. A good lawyer can do this for you. Good luck.........

There are medical malpractice attorneys who could represent you, and most likely they will be familiar with plastic surgeons who will testify in court as expert witnesses. I'm sorry to hear/see your results. I hope everyone will be sure they get board certified plastic surgeries, have a complete consultation, have the doctor explain what he/she will do, look at before and after photos, ensure you will receive post-op instructions and appointment(s). Get references also from those who had the same procedure and you and they were pleased with the results.

Don't feel that you will look terrible forever. The scars will eventually heal (get a hair style that hides it too) but don't give up on taking legal action and make sure you report to FDA and to Consumer Affairs as well. Maybe you can just have a jury? I heard once that attorney's won't take you if they don't think they can make at least $300,000 and it is hard to find a doctor who will testify against another from the same town so look outside the area where you live. Are all the pictures of you at different stages? I had a facelift in Costa Rica 10 years ago and you can't see the scars. I didn't like the way he reattached my ear but he fixed it free the next year and did extra work as well. Now he costs as much as it would in US or I would go back to him in a NY minute.

I had a consultation with Dr. Christian Drehsen in Clearwater, Florida and saw at least 10 excellent amazing redo of people who were butchered with LSL. Google him as he has pictures here but not those and ask him to share those as well. I couldn't believe those were pictures of people who had already had surgery. He fixed it and he does other laser procedures there too. I was so upset about all your stories I spent a great deal of my consultation time talking to him about it. I'm not sure he would write a letter but he said he would talk about this on TV if you all would get it together to make that happen as I suggested the other day. Remember, EVERYONE WRITE A ONE PAGE LETTER TO AT LEAST 3 MAJOR SHOWS ALONG WITH CLEAR PICTURES. Find some doctors who will speak up about it and send them the same as well. Dr. D said it is ridiculous and impossible to do anything meaningful in an hour and the Refresher Lift he does takes 3-4 hours and gets to the underlying tissue. I think you all need to put your effort in getting this out to the public in a big way and maybe through that, you would get some attorney's interested if they see $$$ with class action lawsuit for fraud and false advertising at least. The pictures tell everything. Not enough people sharing their pictures. Hard for people to visualize and believe until they see. I didn't know about this website until a few months ago so how do you get the word out. Most people lazy to research until it is too late. You don't need a doctor to tell a judge how you look. You need people power.

SWEEKSNEAK: I am totally going through the same thing re: scars and trying to get an attorney and PS which will verify the damage of this procedure. I have terrible scars, both ears do not match and I can no longer wear earrings!! This is the worse thing I have ever done and would never recommend this procedure. I will post pictures later.

You are absolutely correct, I am willing to do all that I can to get this recognized by the public and maybe institute some change in the way this is conducted. If there is enough of us together filing suit that would be enough incentive for an attorney and enough of a public outcry to gain favorable media attention and get the money we need for help to restore a semblance of normalcy to our looks and lives.

Hi, thank u for your pics..i had this done in July. He did a bad job but not as bad as yours. so sorry!!I am not a surgeon and i know they stick together even though they dont want to. I have been assisting in plastic surgery for 46 yrs.I asked him questions and i should of known better but the "RN" (?) said not to worry he was the best! (?, no, he is one of the worst!) She obviously does not know anything about the surgery. I should have gotten her credentials. A plastic surgeon should have pride in in himself and know his hands. And he should KNOW if he does a BAD JOB he WILL GET FIRED! I guess LSL does not hold to this criteria. There are WAY TOO MANY of these guys that work for LSL. That tells you that there are no ethics to the company and we cannot TRUST them! Do not go to this establishment! It is exactly that. It is only for the money. The owner is an invester that has no clue or he does not care. Probably the ladder since it happens way too often. Alot of the doctors are bad, they do not use the correct suture. Between the two, the incisions look like "s---". There is no other excuse for it and it is UNEXCUSEABLE!! I have written to the atty gen office. I hope he listens and i would love to be a witness because of my experience even if the doctors wont do it. it is not fair to us and especially those who no nothing of the operation and fully trust their lives into these guys hands. U, if you are like me, there is still enough skin left to stretch a little fruther to cut the scars out? What do you think? Keep massageing the scars to make them pliable and stretchable.Stretch up the cheek skin toward your ears every day and whenever you think about it. Dont know how long it will take but it will happen. Call the AMA OF SURGEONS and tell them what is going on (they should know already), text the pics, and ask them if they want these guys to represent them. Maybe we can get somewhere that way. I will be there w you. Let me know cause i do not mind saying what i know and how i feel about it. conniebarlow2006@yahoo.com Fill me in. your friend

Don't give up, it is the lawyers job to find expert witnesses, nit your job -- get another lawyer.

I can't understand why no class action suits have been brought against this company..

one last thing.. if you cannot list doctors names here -- you can on other sites, Yelp for instance... just be certain to be covered under free speech and tell factually rather than emotionally and add pictures that speak for you. Women need to know -- glad i found this page before trying LL

When I went through trying to deal with some legal stuff, was told if you can find a doctor out of the state or at least way far away from where you live, only way, I don't know how to see your pictures but if you have a CLEAR CUT case, there are surgons who would testify but not in same community as that's how it is unless maybe of course, you have lot of money and be prepared to pay but again, if a lawyer thinks he can win, may be willing to take money down. I really think there is some class action and must try to find the
abc report that was on this week of
feb 8,,,11pm news.

I went to one of the top PS in Charleston. He does faces,nothing else. He offered LSL, and when I asked him 1,000 questions about the procedure he told me that he used that to get patients in but, in fact, didn't do what they say it's like. He said many doctors go to some class and learn the "technique" and then advertise it. LSL is making tons of $$$; think of how long their infomercial is! He also said, that the moment the facelift is done, "you begin the aging process" and the surgery will not last, LSL or otherwise. I have 3 friends who had a facelift and after time they look like that did before.
I would continue with legal action. It is the surgeon who botched the job that is responsible. He probably took the "weekend training class" in Hawaii.

Just saying, all their diplomas are on the walls. I was sure to look at those. My doctor had only a year of plastic unfortunately. If you dont know how to operate then how are you going to know how to take care of a pretty face. You have to have the hands to do this.

chellamia:

you can see my pictures at the top of this page.....including the recent tx. I had to try and reduce the scar.....that is the last picture...

I think they all need to combine their effort and write a letter and include clear pictures....send to Tyra and other similar type shows...people watch that...maybe even Dr. Oz? Dr. C Drehsen had many pictures of repairs to people who had LSL and I couldn't believe these were people after a cosmetic procedure. His repair work was stunning and he seemed very annoyed and angry about what is happening to people...men too...he said he would go on a show and talk about his experience he's seen from one hour "facelifts" etc. I'm sure there are other doctors who would like to set the record straight but they aren't going to put it together. The women here have to unite their efforts as I said there is power in numbers.

Good for you, Ugly Scars, for filing complaints. I don't want to get your hopes up,Ugly Scars, because doctors often put 'sticking together' above ethics. But in your case, Ugly Scars, you have photos that DO speak for themselves, and those pictures are worth 1,000 words--your doctor knew it was sloppy work for him to put vertical scars on your face (mention that, about how you learned later (from my son's dog bite) that 'vertical scars' are hard for plastic surgeons to repair, and it certainly is not desirable for a plastic surgeon to knowingly inflict one on an unsuspecting patient. I think doctors on any ethics committee would feel ashamed to side with your doctor because it indirectly reflects on their own standards of quality care. State Medical ethics committees HAVE to respond to your complaint--you WILL get a letter of response. It will be interesting to know what they say. If they say, 'You agreed to the surgery,' they know in their hearts that that's not fair to you, Ugly Scars. They know you were an innocent victim of a money-grabbing surgeon. But DO remember that any letters you mail to state or medical institutions become a matter of record, and that matters in itself. And you will LEARN the names of the MDs on the boards. If they try to trivialize your concerns, you can always bring THAT to the public's awareness too. It's been done before. It reflects on THEIR reputations and integrity as doctors.

please tell them I sent you.

jelly bean

Of course they have a lot of lawyers. They have their own law group that works right there in the Michigan home office. What a rip-off! And a shame that this kind of company is allowed to legally harm people with no self-incrimination. 

and he has disappeared. His name was Byron Milner and he was ( still is??) a lawyer from Philadelphia. His nickname was "Buzz" ugh.

SO TYPICAL!