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3rd Jaw Surgery/1st Double Jaw Surgery - Upper Jaw Still Slanted - 3D Titanium Plate Removed - Lower Jaw Now Slanted

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3rd Jaw Surgery/1st Double Jaw Surgery - Upper Jaw Still Slanted - 3D Titanium Plate Removed - Lower Jaw Now Slanted

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I underwent jaw surgery with 3 different surgeons located in Broward County, Florida. I originally had an anterior open bite but my posteriors were pbviously not canted/slanted.
The first surgery was with Matouk...a 3-piece lefort on upper jaw and am not sure why he did not do a double jaw surgery. The outcome was a 3-4 cm cant/slant of my upper jaw which has caused alot of pain, functioning and discomfort issues. He initially said he was going to fix it but later deemed it acceptable. I then sought help by getting consultations with numerous surgeons.
I eventually went with Dr. Sultan who only did a lefort 1..rotating the mis-aligned parts from previous surgery and screwed a 1-piece 3D plate over my upper jaw. Since it being on, my midline shifted and I was having a seriously hard time with TMJ pain, etc... After the orthodic failing, he recommended a 3rd surgery. By this time, I had alot of questions. What I thought was going to be one and done turned into another deformity with way more complications. I did some research and asked questions listed on my previous review on realself. I also checked with several different surgeons in the area. The one at UM assessed it and said it was now a very complex jaw alignment case...since my posteriors were not only slanted but angled differently on each side. He also said they don't handle cases with the 3D titanium plate. One or 2 others were okay with the consultation and saw issues with the jaw until they found out I already had jaw surgery.
Friedman & Cardenas did my 3rd surgery...which was the first double jaw surgery. I had alot of reservations but the pain was unbearable. Work went to 12hr shifts and talking for 12hrs where my job is dependent on it was very taxing. I basically was taking advil like clock-work...and later my Dr put me on Meloxicam to ease side effects advil was having on my stomach. The recovery was taxing this time...no pain meds the first few days. It improved a few weeks later but for some reason left side of my face stayed swollen much longer this time. I have nerve damage and my lips feel taut. I noticed the slant was still there but now my lower jaw was angled slightly into it. The TMJ is less painful but the asymetry is off. As you can see in the xrays, my slant is still pretty obvious and pronouced. I do regret having jaw surgery since my case ended like this. Not only do I have the added TMJ issues, functioning mouth movement issues, nerve damage, sensitivity to cold/hot, etc...but I have lost so much time from work, it created a huge financial strain and I feel I lost apart of me. I avoid social situations. I still find comfort in wearing covid mask and not sure if I will ever take it off. I have face massagers, rollers, advil, etc...
For those looking to have this done, I am not sure why this happened in my case but wanted to bring awareness of this outcome.

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Friedman and Cardenas did my 3rd surgery and I feel I was overcharged since they did not complete the upper jaw alignment correction and other things Friedman said I would need to agree to if he were to do my surgery. These surgeons predominantly removed a 3D discontinued plate the 2nd surgeon put in which made my jaw askew and off-midline. The surgery did end up taking 5hrs instead of 3hrs which I was told was due to problems with removal of the 1-piece 3D titanium discontinued plate the second surgeon, Sultan, put in.. I asked alot of questions and not sure how I ended up in this position. So not only do I have the functional issues caused by the severe surgically created cant, gum and bone loss in the fracture area where my jaw was cut during the original surgery with Matouk, temperature sensitivity, financial strain but also I have to struggle with the issues of devastating jaw misalignment every day. Friedman was listed on my insurance but claimed he would not take on my case unless I did not go through insurance assuring me he was capable of fixing the obvious slant that resulted from Matouk's surgery. Friedman also told me he would only do the surgery if I agreed to double jaw, upper lip control lipectomy, genioplasty, nasal cinch suturing and steptoplasty, bony augmentation and osteoplasty so I did. The pictures clearly show those weren't done. I took out a loan to pay for this surgery in hopes of getting relief from the original surgeron's, Matouk's botched lefort 1 3-piece surgery but not only did that not happen, it will take me 4-5 years to pay it back. Essentially now I am literally "paying for the mistakes of the botched surgery" in more ways than I could have ever imagined. This jaw debaucle has been really hard for me to try to see positively. I would not wish what I am going through on anyone. Since the first jaw surgery in 2017, this is not the life I'd ever imagined for myself nor did I ever think at that time I would go through two additional surgeries and be way worse off than I was when I started. I pray to God to give me strength and see me through this trial and tribulation.

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March 30, 2025
Since my last post, my mom and my sister passed away. 2024 was a terrible year for our family. I wake up everyday first feeling okay then reminded of how terrible I now look after jaw surgeries everytime I look in the mirror and see the 3-4 cm cant which not only looks slanted, unaligned & off-putting but it is uncomfortable and sometimes with TMJ, painful to navigate. I really wish I hadn't done any surgeons at this point and lived with the lisp and inability to use my anterior-bite for eating. I waited 20 years to do anything about my Class III open-bite with fear of surgery only to have the surgery and have that fear realized. This outcome has been devastating to my self confidence and I find I just want to disappear when in public. I still wear covid mask which most people probably think is odd but I am now so self-concious of the severely canted upper jaw that I cannot leave the house without one and that is if I leave the house at all.
This surgery is very serious and I totally regret it. My man-made severely canted jaw is way worse outcome than my original class III open bite ever was.
May 2, 2025
hey, i feel your pain, but i bet youre beautiful. i just got jaw surgery year ago and im having trouble too, if you need a group there are plenty on reddit, btw what you have is 100% fixable its just about finding the right person to do it. dont give up. seriously life is too short.
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3 years post

4-6-25

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My Jaw journey started in 2017. I never imagined how this would have altered my life. The first surgeon Matouk that worked on my initial Class III open bite created the 3-4 cm cant was out of network. The 2nd sugeon Sultan that used an out-dated 1 piece 3d plate and slanted my midline further and did nothing to ease the cant was in network. The 3rd surgeons Cardenas & Sultan surgical outcome resulted in the removal of the plate and now altering of my lower jaw that was fine initially now slightly canted with the 3-4cm upper jaw. I feel like I paid for surgeons to correct what other surgeons did and I am stuck with the outcome. I will include pictures of my before this 3rd surgery and current jaw alignment. At this point I am at a loss and looking to maybe just do prosthetics.

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3 years post

Current Jaw Misalignment 5-6-25

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I wanted to show a current video of my upper jaw misalignment lost jaw surgery. The cant seems very obvious to me and it is painful on my joints trying to force my lower jaw into it. I regret surgery since getting this fix seems impossible. Can anyone tell me what alternatives available to me to get some relief from this surgically canted upper jaw?

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May 7, 2025
The orthodontist that handled my case verified I have a cant with x-rays. The orthodontist I saw earlier this week was referred by a prosthetician the next county over that I went to in order to find viable options for functional issues that I am having with the misaligned jaw. The prosthetician did see the issue which he mentioned appeared to be about a 5cm deviation but thought it was more of an orthodontic or surgery related issue instead. I think I should have seen an orthodontist who specializes in TADs instead of unknowingly seeing one affiliated with the surgeon that did the lefort 1 3-piece that surgery creating this issue. An employee mentioned they use that surgeon all the time towards end of my visit. And during the pictures taken there which I took laid back in a chair, the tech kept using his thumb to move my jaw where he wanted it instead of where it naturally goes for pictures. Due to the cant I have a sliding bite when it contacts on the right it slides behind my teeth due to the slant. I don't have much of a resting bite which this other orthodontist did acknowledge but then made the statement my normal bite should be to go into the misaligned upper jaw to which I had already been determined to have a cant and doing that was causing me more pain and not an option. So, this is the cycle I am facing.
If you are looking to have this done to fix an open-bite, please understand that this surgery is very major. It has been my experience that jaw surgeons try to make you not worry about things not going right but if they do go wrong, they will not or may possibly not be able to correct it. I am having major issue with my cant so I have no choice but to seek relief. I am still hoping and praying for relief with the misaligned upper jaw.