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Lip Lift Riskier then Advertised - Houston, TX
UPDATED FROM NobleW
1 month post
Nose shape is vital!
NobleWJuly 23, 2015
$3,000
Thanks to all the well informed people posting comments. I thought I was informed, well at least as informed as I felt necessary before deciding on this "minor" surgery. There is just so much to know and your judgement can easily be clouded by impatience with your appearance. It seems the angle of your nose, the visibility of your nostrils, whether you have nasal sills or not, will determine the outcome of this procedure. Ideally if your nose angles down it will hide the scar quite well. If you have an upturned or straight forward angle, and nasal sills like mine, it becomes much riskier. Im glad to have gone ahead with this review because it will undoubtedly help someone. Love the feedback and I feel like I am getting realanswers.
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Ok, I am typing this spur of the moment on my...
NobleWJuly 20, 2015
Ok, I am typing this spur of the moment on my phone as I lay in bed. I was planning an in depth review once the results were final but looking in the mirror just now changed that, hopefully this will suffice for now. I am a 31 year old male who elected to have this procedure because I don't like my smile and I don't like the way I look when I shave. I chose Dr. Horndeski because I liked the results people were getting from him. The entire process is just how you've read it before I wont go over it again. Staff were extremely nice I will add. I am 6 weeks after the procedure and I am worried about how I look. I am actually decent looking to many people when i dont shave, when I do though I look monkey-ish, which I hate! Now I look piggish whether I shave or not because one of my nostrils no longer has the rim along the base. Imagine two circles before where now one circle is shaped like a V along the bottom. This creates a cavernous effect that grossly enlarges my nostril. That nostril was already slightly larger before, now its huge. I read online about this effect which Dr. Rodriguez says in a reply to a patient query-
"it looks like the surgeon did not anchor the lip skin to deeper and stable structures such as periosteum or cartilage. For that reason the normal pull of the lips puts traction on the nostrils and creates the flaring (which widens the nostril) and pull down (that causes the “big cave” effect) that you are seeing"
I feel my nostrils were pulled down slightly as he describes. I shared this concern with Elisa, his nurse, a week or so ago and she thinks i need to wait for swelling to go down. I shared my before and after pics with her to show Dr. Horndeski and he mentioned I had asymmetry of the nostrils before. I know I did but the base is different. Elisa told me to wait for it to heal, I agreed although I wish the Doctor would take a closer look instead of dismissing it because I dont see how this will improve with time and may actually take corrective surgery to fix. My nose seems more bulbous as well. I crave feedback from anyone who has been in a similar situation. I hate to sound negative before final results especially after reading so many reviewers change their opinions with time, but this is where I'm at now. Any and all questions are wanted. Also the healing process and scar has been unusually harsh compared to most reviewers here. Just noticed while uploading pictures my nostril looks worse...
"it looks like the surgeon did not anchor the lip skin to deeper and stable structures such as periosteum or cartilage. For that reason the normal pull of the lips puts traction on the nostrils and creates the flaring (which widens the nostril) and pull down (that causes the “big cave” effect) that you are seeing"
I feel my nostrils were pulled down slightly as he describes. I shared this concern with Elisa, his nurse, a week or so ago and she thinks i need to wait for swelling to go down. I shared my before and after pics with her to show Dr. Horndeski and he mentioned I had asymmetry of the nostrils before. I know I did but the base is different. Elisa told me to wait for it to heal, I agreed although I wish the Doctor would take a closer look instead of dismissing it because I dont see how this will improve with time and may actually take corrective surgery to fix. My nose seems more bulbous as well. I crave feedback from anyone who has been in a similar situation. I hate to sound negative before final results especially after reading so many reviewers change their opinions with time, but this is where I'm at now. Any and all questions are wanted. Also the healing process and scar has been unusually harsh compared to most reviewers here. Just noticed while uploading pictures my nostril looks worse...
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July 20, 2015
Sorry for your results. I also experienced Dr. Horndeski's "not so good" results. It will only get worse, now that you have posted that you are not happy. Look at my results.
July 20, 2015
Shooz33, thanks for posting. RitaKolb, thank you for your very informative posts. I was just about to call his office to schedule a lip lift appointment and now will not be doing so.

July 20, 2015
i think the effect you are noticing is because this doctor cuts up and into the nasal sills (the base of the nostril) to hide the scar. This has the effect of removing or distorting the sills, making nostrils appear larger. Dr. Rodriguez actually does the same thing, from what I've researched. To avoid this, the doctor needs to make the scar directly below the nostrils. The tradeoff is that the scar will be more noticeable.

July 20, 2015
Doctor R. employs either method based on the structure of the nose. I do not have nasal sills so he could bow the incision slightly into my nasal cavity. He told me that if you have pronounced sills, he will make the incision below them. He showed me an example on himself. He has one side that has a sill and the other that does not. A similar look that you have now. If you look Norah's results, her incision is below the sill. I do not know anything about nose surgery, but in order to achieve symmetry could you have your other sill removed and the nostrils moved inward creating smaller nostril openings? I do not know the feasibility or expense of that type of surgery, but you could ask your doctor and get a second opinion.
July 22, 2015
Ive heard of skin grafts being a potential solution which sounds better then what you described. The shape and angle of your nostrils seems extremely important to the results your going to get!

July 23, 2015
I hope it can be corrected for you and even more that with healing it will be resolved! Best of luck! Keep us updated!
July 20, 2015
OMG RitaKolb, my heart breaks for you... Why didn't I see this before going to him...

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It's been mentioned before and is a real risk. I had a perfect nose, actually told the doctor I used, that I did not want my sills touched and he removed them anyway. Since it happened to me , I have been in touch with several of his patients who also had their sills removed. One of them had some luck with filler injections to build the area up. You are "lucky" , it looks to me that if it does not resolve you may only need a small correction. In my case the deformity is extreme. Hopefully things will settle for you. Anyway, everyone needs to do their research, be careful what you read on the Internet. Try to go on as many consults as you can and see as many ex patients as you can in person. Today too many people are making rash decisions because of what they are reading on the Internet without really thinking things through.
Could you please tell me the doctor who did your lip lift? I would like to avoid him or her!
-do you have any pics without the hair on your lip ??
-that would be very helpful !!
thanks !!