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Cover-up That Got Way Too Big! - Fargo, ND

UPDATED FROM TannerBelles

Feeling so lost.

I've been researching everything, looking at other people's progress with lasers and stuff. I just don't know what to do. If I start the laser process, I have a feeling that there is no way my tattoo will be completely removed and then I'll just have more of a mess on my arm than I do now. I have to admit, I'm terrified of lasers and the pain. Is it way worse than getting a tattoo? Will I have to live with this ugly piece of s%$* on my arm forever? How could I make such an awful mistake??? I am getting married in 4 months and I have to wear long sleeves. I'll have to wear long sleeves forever. Feeling so hopeless about it this last year. Maybe I should just quit crying about it and just do the laser treatment.

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I think you'd feel better trying to remove as much of it as possible, it's not fair to you to feel so badly about yourself :( yes laser removal hurts but after each session I get excited about how much more will disappear and that is the most freeing feeling ever from something that has got me down for so many years!
That's good to know! Yeah, I've noticed that about the different settings...I feel like a have a high pain tolerance as well, so more than likely it won't be as bad as I think it's going to be. The bad part is, I've always felt bad about myself, but this whole thing has made it a lot worse!
Also yes it hurts more than a tattoo but if you've read around on here there are different settings they can use on the machines. I find it worse on the inside of my arm but the outside isn't as bad at all
Hang in there you are not alone! I personally find your tattoo to be unique and beautiful but I completely understand tattoo regret! Your tattoo and story are very similar to mine. I have a cover up on my upper arm that I wanted to add a background to. The depression and regret set in immediately. After a few months of clearing my mind I started laser removing the background which is very similar to yours in color! I have these crazy black and pink swirls too packed with ink. Give yourself more time to decide which path is right for you. Laser removal is nothing to rush into either. I've had several treatments so far and I am pleased to see it get lighter and lighter. Instead of seeing the tattoo as a whole, I broke mine down into sections and started to remove bits at a time. At first I wanted to remove the entire tattoo but after calming down I am focusing on the part I dislike the most, the background. I highly recommend finding a Picosure laser to remove the blues and purples. Majority of my blue ink came out in a single session! For the black and pink swirls I found an Enlighten laser that cut right through the black and some of the pinks. The laser removal procedure only takes seconds! Yes it is more painful than getting a tattoo but I've been zapped without numbing cream. I personally don't find it to be extremely painful, just uncomfortable. Im not looking to completely remove my tattoo either just lighten it enough so a more talented artist can rework the background to something I love. That is another option for you too! You could lighten it enough to add a galaxy or starry background for your owl. I know it's hard to think about more tattoos right now I have the same thoughts. Your tattoo turned into a work in progress again just like mine. I promise you time heals all wounds and you will be able to show your arms again. You will look beautiful on your wedding day regardless of your tattoo! We are our own worst critics!
Wow, thanks for you kind words! It feels great to know that I am not alone! I really appreciate the input on what types of lasers to use on specific colors. I will use that advise for sure. I was actually thinking recently of maybe just working on sections like you said because there is so much color. I would ultimately like complete removal, but maybe if I work on lightening up the background, I will change my mind about the whole thing being removed.. You are certainly right about time healing wounds. I have made SO many stupid decisions in my life, particularly in my 20's. I never guessed that at 32, I would make such a regretful decision. It has taught me a lesson about not rushing into things without thinking of consequences. But, like you said, it's been easier to deal with it the more it sinks in. And it's helped to read other people's stories on here. It's really sad the way some tattoo "artists" are not genuine artists, but scam artists. I have no doubts that the person that I trusted to make my owl look awesome just had a profit in mind when he did my background. I heard him say to a fellow artist while this was all in progress "yeah, screw it we are just gray washing the background" like it was something that I wanted to do. How could I be so stupid! Anyway, I'm getting off on a tangent here, and I'm continuing to be my own worst critic! It's time to take control of the situation and figure out what I am going to do. Thank you so much again for the comment. And it also makes me feel better to know that my tattoo doesn't look as bad as I feel it does. Maybe this summer I'll work on wearing tank tops again. I'm thinking of starting laser treatment next fall after I've had my wedding and stuff. :)
Greetings again from Colorado! I am 32 as well with multiple tattoos on my arms. I never thought this would happen either. There seems to be an endless supply of tattooists and only a few actual artists! The guy who did mine talked me out of all my ideas and did what he wanted. Figured he knew what he was doing. I know what shocked me about mine was all the different colors. It looked sooooo busy and dark to me that's one of the reasons I couldn't accept it. Once some of those colors were removed it is much easier for me to look at. The tattoo does look very funky going through laser removal but this method leaves zero to no changes in skin texture which is very important too. I am also hoping newer technology comes out while i continue to fix this tattoo. There's no doubt laser removal is a growing business! One other thing, tanning can interfere with removal. I would recommend keeping sunblock on your arm during the summer if you decide to move forward with removal. Either way, I hope you feel better and begin to clear your mind. Feel free to write anytime. =)
Hello again! I can relate to what you say about all the different colors. Mine too seems so busy and like a big dark blob. I just hate it. And then I just got a comment on here with someone saying how excruciating laser is, ugh I just don't know what to do. The artist that did my tattoo did the same thing as what you were saying, and I trusted him! I have no idea why. I have been meditating and hoping for the best, that I will have some answers come to me as to what is the best road to take. Like you said, the hopes of newer technology are there as well. So you said the treatment goes super fast, and that you've been zapped without numbing cream. Have you been zapped with the cream and does it help at all? And what kind of laser is the Enlighten that you are using for your pinks?
Of course everyone's tolerance for pain is different but judging by how large your tattoo is you must have a pretty decent threshold. For me the feeling of laser removal was similar with getting tattooed. It's the sensation of something penetrating under your skin. I've been treating different sections so the treatment area is no larger than roughly 8" x 3" each time. I go to two different offices, one offers topical numbing cream and the other offers lidocaine injections. The lasering literally only takes seconds! I can feel it slightly with the numbing cream but with lidocaine injections I feel NOTHING. As soon as the lasering is done I ice the treated section immediately and have little blistering. No one should be in severe pain! The Enlighten laser is one of the newest lasers that uses picosecond technology to break up the ink. It uses 1064 wavelength which is great for black ink and a 532 wavelength which is ideal for reds. I do have pastel pink ink (much lighter than yours) that turned light grey after treatment but in the future it can be treated as grey ink. The grey is very light so I don't think it's paradoxical darkening which can happen with pastel pinks. The picosecond lasers ( Enlighten and Picoway ) are less likely to cause paradoxical darkening of pink inks versus older nanosecond lasers. I've had one Enlighten treatment and I am very pleased with how much ink is gone already. You are more brave than me because I haven't even posted a picture to this site yet. If you'd like I could show you how mine looks before and after in a private message if it helps. =)
Great info, thank you! Yes, I would love to see your progress. Unfortunately where I'm from there's not many choices in places to go. There's one place in Fargo that offers the Picosure laser. I went to him for a consultation and he tried to push me into it right away, it was pretty uncomfortable. Maybe I'll go back at some point. But, every other place I've researched has the older q-switched lasers. I know the Picosure guy uses the numbing cream because he was putting it on my arm during the consultation before I even told him I would go through with it.
I understand your struggle right now because I had 2 laser sessions done on my arm and then an eventual excision of the tattoo. I cannot even imagine how painful it would be for that big of an area to do laser on. My tattoo was only a cherry blossom branch which wrapped around my left arm. The pain from laser was excruciating and it felt like my skin was melting off. I was also disappointed at the rate in which the tattoo was fading. The process was slow and arduous with minimal fading. I went to a laser spa place though and of course there are much more reputable places to get it lasered off but it was way too expensive. (Plus all they really do is either switch lasers or cool the area during the session). Laser is extremely disappointing and arduous. I really don't recommend going through it if you're on the fence. :(
The healing process was also excruciating because of the blisters, pain, and itching after each session. I thought I was putting myself through hell each time.
Hello, I do not think q-switch will do much for your colourful tattoo unfortunately. I would suggest you try out picosure or picoway. BUT to make sure it works well on your skin I would start out with 3-4 treatments on the outer parts of the orange/red/yellow shading. If you treat the whole thing and it does not clear up, then you are left with a colourful blob. Good luck with your removal.
Thank you!
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First Consultation

Last night I went in for a consultation at Sanford Dermatology in Fargo. The gal I talked to was the nicest, most understanding person I've talked to in a long time. It softened the blow of what I was about to hear a lot. They use a Q-Switched laser, and they do not inject or apply a topical numbing cream. She said that will all of the colors in my tattoo, it would take over 20 sessions with different wavelengths of laser, and it would be about $500 per session, which would be about $12,000 in the long run minimum! We'd have to work in sections since it's so large, and that the pain would be bad. She did not sugar coat anything, which I thought was awesome. She wasn't trying to push me into anything. Anyway, I feel like there is no hope. I cried a lot last night.
I know that eventually, whether it be 2 years, or 10 years, there has to be more technology coming out for tattoo removal. There has to be a way to lift the ink out the way it went in instead of flushing it out through the body. I've been researching the Micropen TR, which I think will be amazing for tattoo removal.

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Hey I am so sorry to hear that :( have you researched picoway? I am treated with that device but only had one treatment so I am not experienced enough to tell you if it is working as well as they say. I did see two people in the waiting room of the clinic that had tattoos like yours and they got very got results with the Picoway. (they were 7 sessions in) Maybe look into it and see if it might be an option for you.
I will definitely check into it!
I think there is definitely technology that can remove it in less sessions, like the picoway or picosure.
Thanks, I have been looking at your progress so far and it's fading a lot! I just don't think I can handle the pain and the blisters... ugh!
Oh thank you! The only redeemable part of this pain is the fading.. And yes, I frequently think I'd prefer more treatments over time with less pain! It's definitely ugh :( Then I was like a scared pup at the vet for my 2nd treatment!!
I'm sure you were! Well I look forward to seeing your progress as time goes on!
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My tattoo started out with just the owl in the...

My tattoo started out with just the owl in the center. About a year and a half ago, I decided for some reason that I wanted to add a background to the owl. I did some research and went to a reputable tattoo place in my area.
Mistake #1 - I walked in the tattoo shop knowing which artist I wanted, but being intimidated by the place, I let the artist that was sitting at the front desk, which was not the artist I wanted, give me a consultation. That was the worst mistake ever.
Mistake#2 - The artist took me back and we were talking and I showed him my tattoo and kind of explained what I was looking for. He said we could make it look awesome, so I was excited. But the minute I started throwing out ideas, he shot them down one by one and began to explain what he thought would look good. I should have taken that as a huge red flag, but I figured if he knows what he is talking about, then I'm going to trust him. Bad mistake.
Mistake #3 - I was looking around his booth for pictures of artwork, because I didn't really see much of his online like I did the other artists, but once again, I figured well he works here, he has to be good. I said I didn't see much of his artwork on the website, and he said "yeah, I'm really lazy about putting pictures up." Another red flag. But, I put my deposit down with him anyway and scheduled my first appointment. He convinced me to go a tattoo convention, which sucked because he wasted a lot of time.
The mistakes continue... I would go in for a session, and he would say "one more session" and about 8 sessions later, I have a tattoo that I absolutely hate. Every session I had he was telling me all these great ideas that he had for the tattoo so I thought well, he has a picture in his mind so it has to come out. Well, when it got to the background, I came in and he was like "I forgot, what are we doing again with the background?" I thought, really??? So I had a picture of a sunset in my phone that I took so he made me hurry and send him that...and so began the awful red shading all over my arm. Looks nothing like the picture which had mostly blues and purples and some orange.
So long story short, I hate my tattoo so very much, and I feel like my artist was just taking advantage of me because I wasn't super sure about what I wanted and he figured he could make a lot of money, which he did. About $2,000. BUT, it was MY mistake, and I should have been absolutely sure about what I wanted, and when I walked into the place I should have asked for the artist I wanted. Instead, I sat there through all of those sessions looking at the artwork in the booth next to me (the artist I originally wanted) and wishing I was sitting in his seat. Just horrible.
It's now winter, but I spent all this last summer wearing long sleeves and in a major depression. I am just now feeling better, but sometimes I just want to cry when I look at it. I should have just left it alone... My fiancé tells me I am beautiful no matter what, and everyone says it's not a horrible tattoo, but it's different when it's on your body. It's unexplainable unless you go through it yourself.
The pictures that I have here are right after I got the tattoo, so it's not nearly as bright now.
I go in for a consultation tomorrow to get laser treatment done at a hospital in my area, I don't know what kind of laser they use yet or anything. I will find out more details tomorrow, but I am really scared that I am going to go in there and be told that it's not possible to remove.

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Welcome. You did a great job at taking us through your experience and explaining how you were feeling. You're very kind to pay it forward, and sharing the red flags that pop up when dealing with tattoo artists will help countless others avoid a potential mistake. I related to much of what you said, and I know many others will as well. I'm sorry things didn't work out for you. It's great to hear that you were able to overcome your depression, do you have any tips on how you managed through your roughest moments? 

Thank you, well, I've always dealt with depression and I have kind of an impulsive personality...which has been getting better in the last few years, but last year this tattoo was a huge impulse. I guess I think of how much worse it COULD be and that I have so many other positive things in my life to look at...that's helped to get me through. But, I did cry for a few hours after my consultation last night.
Hi! Thank you so much for sharing your story. My heart breaks for you. I am sitting here right now with scabs all over my right forearm from my first laser removal session.. and it's so worth it! I know what you are going through and I'm so sorry. You will feel much better after your treatments get underway, I promise!! I feel dramatically better knowing there is light at the end of the tunnel and so will you. Hang in there.
Hello! Well, after going in for a consultation last night, I am not sure laser removal is an option for me. I was told it would take over 20 treatments and that it would be super painful. So I suppose I will have to forget about it, or keep my options open for other types of lasers. How was the pain for you and what type of laser?
Thanks for your comment, it's nice to know that I am not the only one feeling like this.
Oh no that's not good news. Is it because of the red shading? If this was your only consult, definitely go on a few others. Multi colored tattoos require a few different lasers. Mine is only black so I'm being treated with PicoSure. The pain is intense but it is so short! Hopefully it will be worth it in the end. There Must be other options for you. I keep looking at your tattoo. Do you get compliments on it? I think it's cool.
I wanted to add.. my tattoo was also on impulse. I can't believe I got this large tattoo in a very visible place on a whim at a tattoo convention! Who does that ? Me. ☹️ So trust me I know the regret feelings and beating yourself up.
Yeah, I forgot to mention that she asked if I had a different reaction to the red at all than the other colors in my tat. And yes, when he did the red shading my arm swelled up more than normal. Apparently a lot of people are allergic to red ink and that could be bad when it flushes through the system after a laser treatment. But yes, I'll keep my options open and keep talking to other people. Unfortunately there's not a ton of options where I'm from, but I'm hoping there will be in the future.
I haven't really gotten a lot of compliments on it because I keep it covered up! :) My family and friends say it looks nice, but I just can't stand to look at it...there's so much wrong with it to me. Thank you for the compliment.
I forgot to ask, are you going to post your tattoo story?
It makes me angry that the "artist" didn't respect you or his work. First he totally takes over the vision for your tattoo, then forgets what he's doing altogether!! And your tattoo should not have taken so many sessions! You must feel so frustrated.
Yeah, It made me really angry for a long time! I've spent the last year going through all of those emotions, sadness, regret, anger. I contacted the place where I got the tattoo, and they had since fired him. They offered to fix it for me, which was nice, but I wanted my money back so I could get it removed. They then got rude with me and told me to ask the artist for my money back. Like I said before, I made the mistake, I'm not looking for sympathy from anyone. But yeah, it's super frustrating when you get pushed into something that you really don't want to do.
Last night I went in for a consultation at Sanford Dermatology in Fargo. The gal I talked to was the nicest, most understanding person I've talked to in a long time. It softened the blow of what I was about to hear a lot. They use a Q-Switched laser, and they do not inject or apply a topical numbing cream. She said that will all of the colors in my tattoo, it would take over 20 sessions with different wavelengths of laser, and it would be about $500 per session, which would be about $12,000 in the long run minimum! We'd have to work in sections since it's so large, and that the pain would be bad. She did not sugar coat anything, which I thought was awesome. She wasn't trying to push me into anything. Anyway, I feel like there is no hope. I cried a lot last night.
I know that eventually, whether it be 2 years, or 10 years, there has to be more technology coming out for tattoo removal. There has to be a way to lift the ink out the way it went in instead of flushing it out through the body. I've been researching the Micropen TR, which I think will be amazing for tattoo removal.
My story is almost exactly, step for step, yours. From going in for one artist and getting intimidated into going with the one at the front, to shooting down my ideas, to the "too lazy to post my work" excuse, to paying too much and letting it get too big. I feel you :(