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Facial fat transfer disaster

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Face Fat Transfer: Doctor Goes Rogue with Distressing Results!

Delph
I travelled to Spokane to Dr. Cameron Chesnut for full laser treatment with fat transfer principally to the temples. The entire experience was appalling. I am a very private person and hate having to write a negative review, but after more than 5 exhausting months of trying to sort out possible resolutions with this doctor with no success, here I am. I hope others will benefit from hearing my experience.
Dr. Chesnut deviated entirely from what he had strongly recommended. To my bewilderment, he transferred fat to places we did not discuss, I had not consented to and in fact some of which I wouldn’t have imagined were ‘a thing’. The fat transfer was supposed to be minimal and peripheral due to weight loss; the lasers would do the bulk of the work in a case such as mine where there is little sagging. The result of this deviation is what might be called a ‘face droop’. Along with discomfort, the features are distorted, and immobilized, facial shape is narrowed and elongated due to mid/low face prominence.
When I did have a chance to talk to him, he dismissed my complaints and persisted that it was a matter of swelling, even after five months.
I must press the fact that fat transfer is anything but noninvasive. It was like being in a bad car accident. Also, you really must heed red flags. A website that is altogether too flashy, that paints the doctor as a rock star should make you step back.
if anyone has an interest, I can amplify each of the following in updates to this post.
1) Communication a) initial consultation b) telephone c) written correspondence
2) Scheduling
3) Surgery day environment
4) Recovery
5) Preop, postop & follow-ups
6) Cost & cost effectiveness
7) Outcome

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Cameron Chesnut, MD, FAAD, FACMS

Cameron Chesnut, MD, FAAD, FACMS

Dermatologic Surgeon, Board Certified in Dermatology

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Replies (16)

October 21, 2022
"Along with discomfort, the features are distorted, and immobilized, facial shape is narrowed and elongated due to mid/low face prominence." This observation is what I made after my own experience, yet surgeons' so-called solutions have involved adding more to the sides of the face. Sorry about your experience.
October 22, 2022
My face looks elongated too because he put in in the lateral cheek and cheekbones. Awful . I look like makeficient
October 22, 2022
Yes, this is one of my issues too. It's another one of their "one size fits all" approaches to cheeks.
October 22, 2022
Yes a one fits all approach. It elongated the face so much and mine is asymmetrical. Have you consulted with anyone? Microlipo could help but very few do it in the cheek area. I have a consult with a Beverly Hills dr who is one of the few who seem to microlipo the area. I hope he can help. I look like an alien who has been run over by a bus. I hope a luft is not the only way. Everybody here told me to use Morpheus but I don’t trust it for this purpose. Too unpredictable.
October 29, 2022
I've had significant microlipo - it doesn't remove the fat that's fibrosed, nor the fat that has been placed in layers that don't correspond to where natural subcutaneous facial fat is. Microlipo is effective for classic overfill where the face has been over-volumised yet fat remains soft and has been done correctly from a technical standpoint. The vast majority of people with poor fat grafts are not in this situation, however, as a doctor who overfills usually botches the procedure. With microlipo, the fat needs to be roughed out in order to dislodge the stuff from adjacent tissue and it will leave skin redundancy if the amount of volume to remove isn't highly significant. I have had Morpheus twice as well - it made next to no difference to the grafts and would likely only attack natural fat, so I would not bother.
I have come round to the idea that the ND YAG lipolysis laser, same as what is used to remove bipolymer injections, has the power to melt the problematic fat grafts that are frequently full of scar tissue. However, this procedure is not available in the English-speaking world - only clinics in Korea, Latin America and Italy seem to carry it. Fat graft problems should be treated the same as permanent filler problems but surgeons are still very naively labouring under the delusion that it is somehow the same as natural facial fat.
October 29, 2022
Further to my skin redundancy comment - if there is a significant overfill of fat graft, chances are that the cannula won't be passing as close to the skin, which is what can cause issues with skin redundancy etc.
October 21, 2022
Thank you for your reply. That's the first thing they want to do. It really doesn't make sense because it won't undo the distortion that is already there. It appears to me that it will take some very cautious lift to help some places. I don't know what can be done about the immobilization. It is too scary to trust anybody after going through this. It really grinds a person down.
October 22, 2022
I believe adding fat or dermal fillers to the face is easier for them to do. A way to cadge a bit of easy money under the guise of "help". Unfortunately, some doctors can't recognise clued up patients like yourself who won't be convinced by these ideas. I'm sure that enough are hoodwinked into it, which is why they keep in suggesting it to new patients. I am dismayed at the lack of logical thinking and toral misunderstanding that some exhibit. Yes, badly injected fat or that which is over-injected relative to what the existing facial structure is able to support can drag down the facial soft tissue, which in itself can lead to pseudo hollows, as well as upper lip displacement (lengthening) and even eyelid retraction. The mid face is naturally quite unsupported too.
Do you feel your fat is firm in the immobilised areas or simply too much? If you can get an MRI scan with contrast, a good radiologist of the head and neck should be able to shed some light on the characteristics of your injected fat.
November 3, 2022
Would you go to a GP for referral to radiologist for MRI?
October 22, 2022
Have you contacted dr neavin? He is one of the few who removes it through gentle microlipo . Also Dr imola in Denver. I still have to consult with them ( I have one in November snd one I’m December) so I’ll let you know
October 24, 2022
No, I haven't contacted anyone. I've just been in shock for so long. I couldn't believe the doctor wouldn't want to advise me when he realized what he'd done. I appreciate you sharing your experience and yes, please let me know anything you find out. This is not a face I want to be frozen in for the rest of my life.
November 3, 2022
Do you travel for consultations or do them virtually? I look forward to hearing how your consultation goes.
October 24, 2022
It is a good suggestion to get an MRI. The fat over my eye just shouldn't be there at all. It is firm and there is no room for me to open my eyes. The field of vision is cut off. Since this happened, I've got the education I should have had before going through with it. Evidently, fat needs some fat in order to adhere. What brought me to have the transfer was that my temples had thinned. I have always been very lean, having been a classical ballet dancer early on and a marathoner later, and so on. This doctor advised that FT was the most natural & enduring way to enhance the temples. It sounded reasonable. I liked the idea of it being natural. What I didn't know, is that an experienced FT doctor will do a little at a time so that a thin area like the temples slowly builds up and you can see if it is settling right. Well, there is no evidence of anything left in my temples. But my eyebrows and eyes are sloped down on the outside and there are somewhat firm ridges just under the nasal side of the eyebrows. There are mounds alongside my nostrils and just above the corners of my lips. The other horrible thing I learned too late is that when it does adhere, it grows if you gain weight. Well, gaining weight is exactly what I was trying to do and now I am afraid to gain at all because my face is hideously distorted as it is.
October 25, 2022
Some doctors use a portable handheld ultrasound device to detect old filler or for better placement of new filler. Not sure it’s detects fat but just something to consider.
UPDATED FROM Delph
8 months post

Fat putting more pressure on eyes, growing against nostrils, weighing face down

Delph

It is going on 8 months. My headaches are intense, eyes watering with asymmetrical bulges at the base of each inner eyebrow. The muscles over my eyes are in turmoil, and the mounds on jaw and chin are hanging. The mound at the base of my jaw beneath the earlobe tugs the lower corners of my mouth even further down and gives me constant neck pain. Fat was supposed to be placed in the temples. I wouldn't have considered having it in areas that need to be mobile.

Replies (16)

November 7, 2022
Have you consulted with anyone? In Europa they use endolift to remove fat and target just the areas where there is extra fat to remove. It’s optic laser . They first do an ultrasound, see where it is and then evaluate how much and where to take it. I’m considering doing it to remove these asymmetrical bulges on my face.
November 21, 2022
Im so sorry. Going through the same . :-(,
November 22, 2022
Thank you for commiserating. I wish we didn't have to be on here. Would you go to Europe for endolift? Have you heard of a particular doctor or place there? It is difficult when you don't know exactly how it has to be dealt with.
November 26, 2022
@delph . Yes I would be going to Dr dell’avanzato. He is the authority for this technology and the use theteof in Europe and in the USA. He uses it for lipolisis as well as to remove permanent fillers. I’m having my virtual consultation on Thursday. I’ll keep you posted.
December 13, 2022
I am so sorry! I underwent a face/necklift in 2021 and the surgeon used fat grafting--my outcome was very similar to yours except I got eye bags (festoons) as an added bonus. I look puffy and older than I looked before the surgery. I've been on a quest to figure out what to do to resolve this, consulting with top Seattle surgeons. No one has a solution except "come back in a few years and we'll do another facelift surgery on you". The emotional toll is overwhelming. I will keep you in mind during my quest and let you know what I discover.
July 1, 2025
I am so sorry that you are going through this. I hope by now, you are looking and feeling better.
December 13, 2022
@Chillypilly Thank you for reaching out to me! I read your post and can see that like me, you tried to patiently wait it out and keep the best outlook possible. I believe the stress is even worse at this stage because it has sunk in that this is very serious and there is no clear way out. I'm convinced that FT is a very dangerous game many doctors are playing. Did your doctor put filler over your eyes and between your eyebrows? Did any of the treatments you tried afterward do any good at all? Does your original doctor offer any input or potential solutions? Isn't it sad to watch part of your life go wasted when you were only trying to make the most of yourself. Yes, we must share any good leads.
October 20, 2023
So sorry to be just responding to your comment now! It is over two years now, $8000 for just lymphatic drainage work, micro needling, facial acupuncture—trying natural approaches vs more surgery. I even had a doxycycline injection done on the eye bags, a series was required, but the derm doing these for me moved so I haven’t completed. Haven’t been able to move the needle (pun intended) much on the horrible outcome. I will be scheduling a consult with Dr. Karam for a full facelift re-work and will update when I make a decision for next steps.
October 21, 2023
You poor thing! I always hope when people stop commenting here it means the problems resolved either on their own or through some fortunate treatment. It has been over a year and a half since that calamitous event for me. I tried time and time again to get more input from the doctor to no avail. The effects have only grown worse. The area above the upper lip is just flat and stiff, making it hard to eat without drooling, hard to form certain sounds and forget smiling. It is much the same with my eyes. They are confined by the rigidity around them. I pretty much have two expressions: scared or scary. Guess I'm ready for Halloween, lol. I've meant to write an update to my post but haven't put myself to it. Thanks for letting me and others know. I'll be eager to hear what Dr. Karam says.
UPDATED FROM Delph
2 years post

Waste of time, waste of money

Delph
Dr. Chesnut recommended C02 laser to erase vertical lip lines and creases near chin, to reduce sunspots and minor scaring, with the attractive advantage of boosting collagen. I was recommended a package which included neck, chest, and hands along with the face. Since improvements are seen over the course of several months, I delayed posting a review until now to avoid premature judgement.

If you are considering C02 laser, you probably know that it involves a painful, disgusting week or so. My treatment was nearly 2 ½ years ago and I honestly cannot say anything positive about it.

At first, I was bright red, then scabby, and finally flaky. I’d never heard of it being done right up to the eyes apart from the troughs, yet it was. Excellent eye protection should be a given. Even so, one of the covers fell off as I lay there. My eyes were swollen shut, burning and tearing for over a week. As you see from my initial review, I had a fat transfer at the same time, so I attribute changes in symmetry, shape, and size as well as permanent inability to open my eyes fully to that procedure, though it is possible the laser contributed. I plan to do the long-term update to that as well.

The non-facial treatment areas were quite limited. For instance, the hand coverage was approximately 2 ½ x 2 inches, so it completely bypassed the freckles at the base of the thumbs. The neck too was limited to the area that fell between about 1 ½ inches in front of the earlobes on each side, so the sides of the neck where sun often hits were not treated. The chest coverage was like a swoop neck; though mine was clearly not drawn out precisely since it veered more to one side. I saw all this while it was red.

For a full year and a half, even cool temperatures caused my hands intolerable pain. I spent an entire winter wearing wool gloves indoors. To go outdoors briefly, I had to wear ski gloves. Hot weather made them prickly. Thankfully, that has grown less intense this past year. I continue to wear light cotton gloves outdoors when it is warm to protect the fragile skin.

In this long term, none of the areas where I was assured improvement has shown any. The lines are astonishingly more pronounced. As far as I can discern, this can be for one of three reasons: 1) these areas were missed by the laser 2) the laser was ineffective or 3) the fat placement exaggerates the creases in those areas. The same old spots remain as before. In the non-facial areas too, not even a freckle disappeared. Instead, the skin looks thin, crepey and almost bluish gray.

FYO the charge for this procedure was nearly three times the high-end national average.

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November 22, 2024
I’m so sorry you had such disappointing results. These procedures are so expensive and we expect the results to match with expectations. Did you discuss with your surgeon your experience?
I now have stick out ears after my FL which my surgeon has denied. He said it looked normal.
I will have to have them pinned.
I’m reading reviews on fat grafting because I’m scheduled for today.
November 23, 2024
Yikes! What kind of FL was it? It is awful to end up with another something to deal with. I hope your fat graft went well. Thanks for reading.
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January 23, 2025
It was a SMAS plication. Besides the ear stick out problem (where it was perfectly pinned before) my face also looks unattractive. My neckline is better and my jowls are a bit less (but still there) but my mid face was pulled laterally and looks flat and dull. The part of my face I actually did like is now gone, you can read my review and see the pictures. I just now look ugly. Whereas before I had the sagging problem only,
January 22, 2025
Strange review. CO2 works great.
April 9, 2025
Strange comment to make about someone else’s experience. And, so coincidental that you call yourself “pioneering” and Dr. Chestnut refers to himself as a “pioneer” in the world of facial plastic surgery, even though he’s not a board certified plastic surgeon.
April 9, 2025
Strange comment to make about someone else’s experience. And, so coincidental that you call yourself “pioneering” and Dr. Chestnut refers to himself as a “pioneer” in the world of facial plastic surgery, even though he’s not a board certified plastic surgeon.
July 1, 2025
I am just learning that he is a dermatologist and not a plastic surgeon. Wow! I mean, his prices are very high, and you would think he is a certified plastic surgeon. The results I have seen from other patients are wow, beautiful. But I am disappointed.