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Bull Horn Lip Lift as well as Revision Chin Augmentation and Alar Base Reduction

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I want to begin by saying that I have undergone...

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WORTH IT$6,100
I want to begin by saying that I have undergone numerous facial reconstructive surgeries in the past and was a nervous wreck going into this. I was asking for a revision to the fifth surgery on my chin--each one came with its own set of issues, feel free to ask me if you have any questions about chin surgery or my experience--as well as a revision alar reduction to bring symmetry to my nostrils. Additionally, as I have aged my upper lip began to sag terribly. When I was young it was sort of pouty and cute, and then it lost its plump youthfulness and began to hang over my bottom lip, making me look like I was sad all of the time. People were constantly asking me what was wrong even when I felt perfectly happy. I work with people a lot, students specifically, and want them to feel good around me, so I had been looking into a lip lift procedure for some time.
After 15 of living with screws in my chin and a terrible pressure on my jaw bone, as well as nostril asymmetry that seemed to be looking worse over time, I went to see several doctors about these revisions and also to ask about lifting my upper lip to give more levity to my expression. With my third doctor I felt I had found the right people to do my surgeries. Dr. Weber and his surgical assistant Camille, are a great team. I especially appreciated her open communication style and his thoughtfulness upon meeting them. He has topnotch credentials, and unlike my previous surgeons, only works on the face. No tummy tucks or breast enhancements, just beautiful noses (wish I could afford one!), lifts, and lovely work with fillers (which I am generally not a fan of and wouldn't want myself, but he seems to have a way with them). I decidedI wanted to work with him after my first visit, and we scheduled my surgery out a few months when I knew I could have some time off of work this summer. I had my surgery on June 27th, which is exactly one month ago today. I had scheduled three weeks off, but only needed to take two. I healed so quickly. I honestly couldn't be happier. It went so much better than I had anticipated. Here is some info about my experience:Consultation: I spent a lot of time talking to Camille, and not quite as much with the doctor as I would have liked, but this ended up being just fine in the end. I was very nervous, as I mentioned early, and needed to really talk through the surgery and results with someone. I did come very prepared to my pre-op. I had photoshopped pictures of what I hoped my results would be. Not severe photoshopping, just sort of adjusting shadows and adding a little hand drawing, so that I could be sure the doctor and I were on exactly the same page in terms of my expectations. I did a before and after example similar to the one I have here, but with my then current face and hoped for results. I think this helped a lot. Preparation: I prepared for my surgery beginning about a month prior by not drinking or smoking anything, eating tons of fruits and vegetables, doing yoga, and about two weeks prior, began taking supplements to help with bruising and swelling. I took arnica (orally), bromelain, ester c, and vitamin k. I also got a handheld red/infrared light which I used to promote healing. Surgery: Maybe two hours? Pretty quick for the three procedures I thought. I did it under a local, which was perfectly fine for me. I felt no discomfort and Dr. Weber and his surgical assistants were extremely kind (even though I had been a terror of a pre-op patient since I was so nervous due to bad past experiences with other doctors). I had brought a scarf to cover up after the surgery, but it really wasn't as bad as I anticipated and I didn't use it. I could see right away that it had gone well.Healing: You will see in my photos that my healing process moved pretty quick. I was most swollen around day 3 and the minimal bruising I had peaked at about day 7. By day 5 I felt well enough to go on a mild hike, which I did. I was perfectly able to go back to work by day 15. I still have some swelling and a bit of numbness around my incisions, but this is normal. After previous surgeries I have experienced muscle impairment and far worse numbness. Everyday things are looking a little better, and feeling a little better. I do think the supplements helped. I also use a little "massager" on my scar tissue to break it up as there is a lump under my right nostril where I had a previous incision. It isn't very visible, but you can see that my right side is more swollen than my left. Results: After so many bad past surgical experiences I wasn't expecting perfection. There was severe asymmetry in my chin and nostrils, some asymmetry in my mouth, and a dent in the right side of my chin. While there is still some asymmetry, it is definitely a lot better and getting better everyday. I should know in 3 months or so what my final results are likely to be. Even if it didn't get any better than I am now, I am still extremely happy with the results. I do think I will be happier once the swelling goes down on the right side and things begin to settle, but with what the doctor started with, I think he did an amazing job.

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July 29, 2017
Did you get chin reduction or enlargement?
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July 29, 2017
Initially the surgeon made it larger. I really didn't like it, and had it removed after three months. The doctor wanted to replace it with a smaller one, and I agreed but it came lose, he replaced it again and it became infected. It was a nightmare. After that I gave up, but my bone hade been scraped so badly and my chin sagged in a very peculiar way. It just hung off the bone. I waited almost two years to have it revised and then the next doctor put in jowl implants although we had agreed on a single small implant. He used Medpor and when I told him to take them out--they were two separate pieces that I never wanted--refused to remove them, so I had to find a third doctor to take them out and he put in a medium sized silicone implant, but it was high and screwed in and looked crooked as well. It was uncomfortable and looked awful but I couldn't do anymore surgeries, it was so stressful. 15 years later I found Dr. Weber and he took out the old silicone implant with the screws and replaced it with a small implant with no screws. He also removed a lot of scar tissue from the previous surgeries. It is still quite swollen on the fight side, but it looks a lot better already and feels so much better. The last implant was applying so much pressure to my bone and one of the screws stuck out under my skin. I also don't have the numbness and muscle impairment I experienced with the last two surgeries. I feel so relieved. I always had a small chin, but it wasn't recessive. I should never have had a large implant put in, or in my opinion any. I realize there are severe facial balance issues in some faces, but mine just didn't warrant the surgery. The doctor made that call, and it was pre internet, so I trusted him. My advice to everyone is to do a ton of research and bring images to appointments of what you like and don't like. Leave no room for assumptions and be very direct (but also realistic) in your expectations. We aren't all supposed to look the same and there is so much beauty in our differences. I enjoy looking unique, and long as I don't look sad or angry all the time!
July 30, 2017
Wonderful result and I hope this is a happy ending for u. U have been through a lot.

May I ask -

a) How many mms were taken off and what was your philtrum length originally?
b) Did you note any differnece between the silicone and medpor implants in terms of look n feel?
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July 31, 2017
Hi, Thank you so much for your comment. Yes, I feel very happy with my ending :) You know I am not sure what the mm removal was, but I did ask for 2-4 mm of tooth show. I was most concerned with the shape of my mouth, and brought in images of what I hoped it would be--I liked Bridgette Bardot, Taylor Lashae, and Gigi Hadid. He did a very good job of matching that and the amount of tooth show is perfect given that I am still a bit swollen.

As far as the implant, the surgeon who used the medpor did such bad work that I can't really tell you if it was better or worse than silicone. I had huge muscle knots around the implant that caused terrible scar tissue. I can tell you that it was a bear to remove and I wouldn't suggest it for that reason alone. If you are unhappy with what your results are it is very difficult to replace. The surgeon who took it out did not remove all of the scar tissue and Dr. Weber had to remove quite a bit when he replaced my previous implant.
July 30, 2017
Hello,

Your results are gorgeous!!! About how much did all three procedures cost?
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July 31, 2017
Hi, and thanks! My cost was:

Lip lift: 3500
Nasal base reduction: 1250
Chin revision and implant replacement: 1350

Totally worth every penny :)
August 2, 2017
Yes!!! I agree. Your results are so beautiful. Your review on this doctor really has sparked my interest in him. Congratulations on your results!!
August 2, 2017
I would be an out of town patient if I were to go to him. How many days later did you return to have any stitches removed?

Thanks for sharing your experience. :)
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August 3, 2017
It was six days. I think you could probably have stitches taken out local to you. I am sure the doctor could answer any questions you have about traveling and after care. :)
August 9, 2017
Amazing! Yes, that would definitely be something to look into. Thanks again for sharing your experience and for taking the time to respond.
August 28, 2017
Hello Flutter! Your lip lift results are stunning and really create a more youthful look. How is your scar healing coming along? Thank you for sharing your journey with the community !
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August 29, 2017
Hi! Thanks :) My scar is healing fine. I don't think anyone would notice. I will post updates at month three I think. That way we can really see the results. I will say that I don't think anyone notices anything, maybe when I first went back to work people were wondering what was different. They probably thought I got fillers. Oh, well, they were all too polite to ask!
August 29, 2017
Thank you so much for sharing about how you prepared for your surgery. Such a great idea to use Photoshop to show the doctor exactly what results you expect to see. Your progress, before and after pics were also very helpful. You look great!!!
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5 months post

Six Month Update

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So, it has been about six months since the initial surgery. In that time I have moved and switched jobs, so I have been a little busy! My feelings are still that the surgeries were worth it. Every thing I had done is an improvement. Having the old implant out of my chin feels amazing. No more pins sticking out, no more pressure on my bone. However, the asymmetry is still an issue due to all of the surgeries. I have tissue and bone loss. Maybe one day I will go in and have fat grafting done. I don't do fillers, so this is not an option for me. My nostrils are still a little off, so I might talk to a doctor about revising those in the future, but I think it might have more to do with the failure of the initial rhinoplasty. It is definitely better, and I am happy with the work Dr. Weber did to correct previously poor surgical work. The best surgical procedure I am most happy with has been the lift lip. I can't tell you how much this has improved my expression, and I think the last time someone asked me if something was the matter, when something was actually the matter! I don't look sad all of the time, so that is wonderful. The updated image shows the scar with no makeup. I don't think anyone notices it at all. I am still really happy with Dr. Weber's work, and were I to get this done again I would go back to him.

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November 27, 2017
At six months with a bit of settling it looks better than ever!
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December 30, 2017
:) Thank you! I am pleased with the way it looks with the swelling down for sure.
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December 5, 2017
You look GREAT - I can really see the difference and best of all, you look natural and not “done.” Congrats! Happy for you!
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December 30, 2017
Thank you! I had wanted to do this for awhile and it was totally worth it.
December 29, 2017
congrats - you deffinitely look fresher and younger. How many mm were removed from your upper lip?
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December 30, 2017
You know, I am not sure! I was most concerned with tooth show and asked for about 2-4 mm. It looks like I have about 2 which is perfect. I think for everyone removal will be different, but for me it was really important that I didn't look sad all the time and it totally has improved that :)
December 30, 2017
Before rhinoplasty I hade about 2-3 mm tooth show. Now 3 months post op I have 0 and I look odd and sad and like a monkey. Now I must have one more op to lift the lip back :(
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December 31, 2017
Aw :( yeah, I think rhinoplasty had something do do with the lengthening of my lip too, as did age. Looking sad is the worst part, I totally get it. The lift also makes the top lip look a bit fuller. My doctor thought it would look out of balance with my lower lip, but I really don't think it does. Sorry you feel like you need to go through surgery again. I will say this is a lot easier to recover from and you don't need to go under.
January 1, 2018
I didn't know you have got rhinoplasty. This is the only reason for the lengthening. Rhino surgeans say it is the age but NO - the only reason is the rhinoplasty. It can not be true that for many years I have looked normal and syddenly over the night my upper lip is 3 mm longer. I just don't know why they don't admit it and say that this effect will go away with the time and if it doesn't it is the age. I think it is because they cut the despressor septi muscle. I actually think that they are fully aware of this effect and it is deliberately because they may be expect that the customers will come back for one more surgery - lip lift
January 1, 2018
How many years ago was your rhinoplasty?
May 5, 2018
Could I ask how much it was just for the lip lift? Thanks:)