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5 months post
It’s now been 5 months since the surgery and I’ve had a fair few people asking for updates, so I’ve decided to post some photos and talk about my progress.
The scars are still there as you can see from the photos. They are hard to notice when covered with makeup but I am still self conscious about them when bare faced. This is after more than 5 months!! The scars are actually a bit worse than I expected they would be this far post surgery :-(
Under the nose the bullhorn lift scar is a bit red and rough looking, while the corner lift scars on the sides of my mouth have developed into white lines. I find that the corner lift scars (the white lines) are more noticeable than the bullhorn ones, and are also harder to completely disguise with makeup, because concealer or foundation doesn’t stick to the scars very well. Makeup just kind of slides off the scars, so I have to build up coverage bit by bit.
Otherwise I am still happy with the outcome of the surgery. The distance between my nose and the lowest point of the notch of my Cupid’s bow is still 1.25cm, so pretty much no change over the months. Maybe just a teeny tiny amount, like a tenth of a millimetre or something.
I’ve now seen a lot of friends post surgery (always with makeup) and not a single person has noticed anything different about my face. I haven’t seen my parents yet as they live in a different country, but I will be seeing them and my entire family this weekend and am worried about what they’ll think. On the one hand I am hoping they’ll not notice since my family is very conservative. My mum has never even worn makeup her entire life and she thinks people who get plastic surgery are disgusting. However, on the other hand, if not even my own parents and brother who have known me all my life can tell that I’ve had surgery.. well, does that mean there wasn’t any point to getting it done since the change is so insignificant..?
The scars are still there as you can see from the photos. They are hard to notice when covered with makeup but I am still self conscious about them when bare faced. This is after more than 5 months!! The scars are actually a bit worse than I expected they would be this far post surgery :-(
Under the nose the bullhorn lift scar is a bit red and rough looking, while the corner lift scars on the sides of my mouth have developed into white lines. I find that the corner lift scars (the white lines) are more noticeable than the bullhorn ones, and are also harder to completely disguise with makeup, because concealer or foundation doesn’t stick to the scars very well. Makeup just kind of slides off the scars, so I have to build up coverage bit by bit.
Otherwise I am still happy with the outcome of the surgery. The distance between my nose and the lowest point of the notch of my Cupid’s bow is still 1.25cm, so pretty much no change over the months. Maybe just a teeny tiny amount, like a tenth of a millimetre or something.
I’ve now seen a lot of friends post surgery (always with makeup) and not a single person has noticed anything different about my face. I haven’t seen my parents yet as they live in a different country, but I will be seeing them and my entire family this weekend and am worried about what they’ll think. On the one hand I am hoping they’ll not notice since my family is very conservative. My mum has never even worn makeup her entire life and she thinks people who get plastic surgery are disgusting. However, on the other hand, if not even my own parents and brother who have known me all my life can tell that I’ve had surgery.. well, does that mean there wasn’t any point to getting it done since the change is so insignificant..?
Surgery +80 days
It’s been another 10 days since the last update so I took some photos to see if there has been much change. Surprisingly, I think the scars definitely look fainter compared to 10 days ago! At this stage of the healing process I sort of expected the changes to be so slow as not to be detectable within this kind of time frame so I am quite happy with the progress.
I still wouldn’t meet anyone I know without concealing the scar with makeup, but for just running errands and stuff during the day I would go out barefaced now. Even 10 days ago I wouldn’t have done so because I would have been afraid to appear grotesque even to complete strangers that I would never see again.
My scar care routine is now simplified to silicone only, either silicone gel (Biocorneum) or silicone tape (Mepitac). During the day I use the gel and at night when I go to bed to use the tape because I move around a lot when I sleep, including smooshing my face into the pillow, so gel would just come off on the pillow.
In terms of lip/mouth movement, things are completely back to normal except for just two things: 1. I still am hesitant to open my mouth wide with my lips pulled back to the limit in order to floss between my last two molars. This is because I don’t want to strain the the corner lift incision, nothing to do with the bullhorn incision. So I floss all my teeth except for the last molar at the back in each quadrant.
2. Sorry for tmi, but I am terrified of giving my husband BJs. Before the surgery I would go down on him once a week or so (to completion, so like, the whole thing would last quite a long time) but of course this involves pulling the upper lip down and into the mouth to wrap the lip around the bottom edge of the top teeth to prevent injury to the man, and I am scared that doing this will stretch the philtrum and the bullhorn scar down. I’ve seen photos of people whose philtrum have lengthened again post lip lift surgery, with very wide bullhorn scars because the scar has stretched down. My understanding is that this can happen to people with thin, less-elastic skin who have had skin only lip lifts and have overused the mouth post surgery. Since my surgery involved cutting the muscle also, I am guessing that my incision area is more robust, but still, stretching my upper lip over my teeth for a prolonged period of time once a week doesn’t seem like a good idea. So basically I have been refusing to go down on him since the surgery and he is really unhappy about it. It really sucks (or not, as the case may be) for both of us but obviously more for him. I am not sure what to do about this - how long I should wait before resuming normal service, and will I even actually be able to go back to what I was doing before (method, duration, frequency). Maybe giving so many BJs even contributed to my long philtrum in the first place??? I have no idea. I would be very grateful for any input from ladies who have have been, or are, in the same position.
I still wouldn’t meet anyone I know without concealing the scar with makeup, but for just running errands and stuff during the day I would go out barefaced now. Even 10 days ago I wouldn’t have done so because I would have been afraid to appear grotesque even to complete strangers that I would never see again.
My scar care routine is now simplified to silicone only, either silicone gel (Biocorneum) or silicone tape (Mepitac). During the day I use the gel and at night when I go to bed to use the tape because I move around a lot when I sleep, including smooshing my face into the pillow, so gel would just come off on the pillow.
In terms of lip/mouth movement, things are completely back to normal except for just two things: 1. I still am hesitant to open my mouth wide with my lips pulled back to the limit in order to floss between my last two molars. This is because I don’t want to strain the the corner lift incision, nothing to do with the bullhorn incision. So I floss all my teeth except for the last molar at the back in each quadrant.
2. Sorry for tmi, but I am terrified of giving my husband BJs. Before the surgery I would go down on him once a week or so (to completion, so like, the whole thing would last quite a long time) but of course this involves pulling the upper lip down and into the mouth to wrap the lip around the bottom edge of the top teeth to prevent injury to the man, and I am scared that doing this will stretch the philtrum and the bullhorn scar down. I’ve seen photos of people whose philtrum have lengthened again post lip lift surgery, with very wide bullhorn scars because the scar has stretched down. My understanding is that this can happen to people with thin, less-elastic skin who have had skin only lip lifts and have overused the mouth post surgery. Since my surgery involved cutting the muscle also, I am guessing that my incision area is more robust, but still, stretching my upper lip over my teeth for a prolonged period of time once a week doesn’t seem like a good idea. So basically I have been refusing to go down on him since the surgery and he is really unhappy about it. It really sucks (or not, as the case may be) for both of us but obviously more for him. I am not sure what to do about this - how long I should wait before resuming normal service, and will I even actually be able to go back to what I was doing before (method, duration, frequency). Maybe giving so many BJs even contributed to my long philtrum in the first place??? I have no idea. I would be very grateful for any input from ladies who have have been, or are, in the same position.
Surgery +10 weeks
It’s been a while since my last update. I have been a bit busy with lots of birthdays and travel and such, which is why I’ve been scarce. I apologise for my absence.
So, I’ve finally been forced to get out and socialise. I’d been putting off meeting people for as long as possible post surgery because I was really concerned about my scars and how I was going to conceal them. I’ll be honest - it takes very careful and meticulous application of concealer and foundation to cover the scars. No one has mentioned anything about noticing the scars, and none of my friends or acquaintances have asked me if I have had anything done. Sometimes I feel that people are looking at the area where the scars are, but I am not sure if they actually are looking, or if I am just being paranoid. Obviously, makeup cannot 100% conceal the scars - I myself can see the scars through the makeup if I look closely in the mirror in bright light. Other people are not going to be examining me at close range, but I do wonder if they can see something.
I have attached photos of the scars before and after makeup so you can judge for yourselves. I deliberately stood right in front of a window on a sunny day, in bright morning sun, when taking the photos, to show up the scars as much as possible. I also used the rear camera on my iPhone XS to take a clear picture. I would say the photos are an accurate representation of how the scars look in bright natural light. The photos have not been touched up in any way whatsoever.
As you can see from the photos, the scars are still noticeable. There is no way I would leave the house without covering them in some way. The corner lip lift scars on either side of my mouth are particularly bothersome. However, if I look back at older photos, I can see that they have come a long way. I guess I just have to keep patient.
Aside from the scars I am happy with the results of the surgery. I am also pleased with the amount of fat retention from the fat transfer. My lips are much plumper than before the fat transfer, but without looking artificial or excessive.
So, I’ve finally been forced to get out and socialise. I’d been putting off meeting people for as long as possible post surgery because I was really concerned about my scars and how I was going to conceal them. I’ll be honest - it takes very careful and meticulous application of concealer and foundation to cover the scars. No one has mentioned anything about noticing the scars, and none of my friends or acquaintances have asked me if I have had anything done. Sometimes I feel that people are looking at the area where the scars are, but I am not sure if they actually are looking, or if I am just being paranoid. Obviously, makeup cannot 100% conceal the scars - I myself can see the scars through the makeup if I look closely in the mirror in bright light. Other people are not going to be examining me at close range, but I do wonder if they can see something.
I have attached photos of the scars before and after makeup so you can judge for yourselves. I deliberately stood right in front of a window on a sunny day, in bright morning sun, when taking the photos, to show up the scars as much as possible. I also used the rear camera on my iPhone XS to take a clear picture. I would say the photos are an accurate representation of how the scars look in bright natural light. The photos have not been touched up in any way whatsoever.
As you can see from the photos, the scars are still noticeable. There is no way I would leave the house without covering them in some way. The corner lip lift scars on either side of my mouth are particularly bothersome. However, if I look back at older photos, I can see that they have come a long way. I guess I just have to keep patient.
Aside from the scars I am happy with the results of the surgery. I am also pleased with the amount of fat retention from the fat transfer. My lips are much plumper than before the fat transfer, but without looking artificial or excessive.
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Golden View Plastic Surgery