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Bullhorn and Corner Lip Lift 12th April, 2019
UPDATED FROM EternalNomad
5 months post
5 months post
WORTH IT$6,486
It’s now been 5 months since the surgery and I’ve had a fair few people asking for updates, so I’ve decided to post some photos and talk about my progress.
The scars are still there as you can see from the photos. They are hard to notice when covered with makeup but I am still self conscious about them when bare faced. This is after more than 5 months!! The scars are actually a bit worse than I expected they would be this far post surgery :-(
Under the nose the bullhorn lift scar is a bit red and rough looking, while the corner lift scars on the sides of my mouth have developed into white lines. I find that the corner lift scars (the white lines) are more noticeable than the bullhorn ones, and are also harder to completely disguise with makeup, because concealer or foundation doesn’t stick to the scars very well. Makeup just kind of slides off the scars, so I have to build up coverage bit by bit.
Otherwise I am still happy with the outcome of the surgery. The distance between my nose and the lowest point of the notch of my Cupid’s bow is still 1.25cm, so pretty much no change over the months. Maybe just a teeny tiny amount, like a tenth of a millimetre or something.
I’ve now seen a lot of friends post surgery (always with makeup) and not a single person has noticed anything different about my face. I haven’t seen my parents yet as they live in a different country, but I will be seeing them and my entire family this weekend and am worried about what they’ll think. On the one hand I am hoping they’ll not notice since my family is very conservative. My mum has never even worn makeup her entire life and she thinks people who get plastic surgery are disgusting. However, on the other hand, if not even my own parents and brother who have known me all my life can tell that I’ve had surgery.. well, does that mean there wasn’t any point to getting it done since the change is so insignificant..?
The scars are still there as you can see from the photos. They are hard to notice when covered with makeup but I am still self conscious about them when bare faced. This is after more than 5 months!! The scars are actually a bit worse than I expected they would be this far post surgery :-(
Under the nose the bullhorn lift scar is a bit red and rough looking, while the corner lift scars on the sides of my mouth have developed into white lines. I find that the corner lift scars (the white lines) are more noticeable than the bullhorn ones, and are also harder to completely disguise with makeup, because concealer or foundation doesn’t stick to the scars very well. Makeup just kind of slides off the scars, so I have to build up coverage bit by bit.
Otherwise I am still happy with the outcome of the surgery. The distance between my nose and the lowest point of the notch of my Cupid’s bow is still 1.25cm, so pretty much no change over the months. Maybe just a teeny tiny amount, like a tenth of a millimetre or something.
I’ve now seen a lot of friends post surgery (always with makeup) and not a single person has noticed anything different about my face. I haven’t seen my parents yet as they live in a different country, but I will be seeing them and my entire family this weekend and am worried about what they’ll think. On the one hand I am hoping they’ll not notice since my family is very conservative. My mum has never even worn makeup her entire life and she thinks people who get plastic surgery are disgusting. However, on the other hand, if not even my own parents and brother who have known me all my life can tell that I’ve had surgery.. well, does that mean there wasn’t any point to getting it done since the change is so insignificant..?
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September 16, 2019
People just don’t notice the tiny changes. They think we look happier, healthier, softer, but they don’t know why. You look like you, but just more well rested and vibrant. Very few people have the kind of scrutinizing eye that can note the exact difference. And those people are usually in the know. Even when I point out fillers to my adult son he can’t see them, even though to me they are obvious.
For your white scars you might consider a very skilled camouflage tattoo artist. I had tattooing done around my areolas to hide white scars and blend the color. She said that the needling helps to break up the hardened scar tissue as well. Maybe that will keep it from tethering down and soften them and blend the color w your skin so that you don’t need to hide w makeup. There are a few well known such tattoo artists.
On the other hand, your scars look great and are so so fine and practically invisible that maybe you should just let them continue to fade and disappear on their own! You look gorgeous!!!
For your white scars you might consider a very skilled camouflage tattoo artist. I had tattooing done around my areolas to hide white scars and blend the color. She said that the needling helps to break up the hardened scar tissue as well. Maybe that will keep it from tethering down and soften them and blend the color w your skin so that you don’t need to hide w makeup. There are a few well known such tattoo artists.
On the other hand, your scars look great and are so so fine and practically invisible that maybe you should just let them continue to fade and disappear on their own! You look gorgeous!!!
September 17, 2019
You should get microneedling with prp with that scar. Are you still feeling numb or stiffness on your upper lip/scar?
September 17, 2019
The scar feels a bit harder and tougher than the surrounding skin, but it’s not really numb anymore. It’s not stiff movement-wise. I can pull my upper lip down, open my mouth really wide, etc. - I can do everything just like before the surgery with no restriction.
Multiple people have suggested microneedling. I will look into it. Thank you!
Multiple people have suggested microneedling. I will look into it. Thank you!
September 17, 2019
Sounds like that scar need a massage. You should at least massage it once a day to help soften and loosen it up. But yeah, microneedling will definitely helps blend the scar and will make it look less noticeable.
September 19, 2019
I think your lips look gorgeous. Big improvement. If people do not notice it doesn't mean the results are not good, it means they are natural and that what you want.
UPDATED FROM EternalNomad
2 months post
Surgery +80 days
It’s been another 10 days since the last update so I took some photos to see if there has been much change. Surprisingly, I think the scars definitely look fainter compared to 10 days ago! At this stage of the healing process I sort of expected the changes to be so slow as not to be detectable within this kind of time frame so I am quite happy with the progress.
I still wouldn’t meet anyone I know without concealing the scar with makeup, but for just running errands and stuff during the day I would go out barefaced now. Even 10 days ago I wouldn’t have done so because I would have been afraid to appear grotesque even to complete strangers that I would never see again.
My scar care routine is now simplified to silicone only, either silicone gel (Biocorneum) or silicone tape (Mepitac). During the day I use the gel and at night when I go to bed to use the tape because I move around a lot when I sleep, including smooshing my face into the pillow, so gel would just come off on the pillow.
In terms of lip/mouth movement, things are completely back to normal except for just two things: 1. I still am hesitant to open my mouth wide with my lips pulled back to the limit in order to floss between my last two molars. This is because I don’t want to strain the the corner lift incision, nothing to do with the bullhorn incision. So I floss all my teeth except for the last molar at the back in each quadrant.
2. Sorry for tmi, but I am terrified of giving my husband BJs. Before the surgery I would go down on him once a week or so (to completion, so like, the whole thing would last quite a long time) but of course this involves pulling the upper lip down and into the mouth to wrap the lip around the bottom edge of the top teeth to prevent injury to the man, and I am scared that doing this will stretch the philtrum and the bullhorn scar down. I’ve seen photos of people whose philtrum have lengthened again post lip lift surgery, with very wide bullhorn scars because the scar has stretched down. My understanding is that this can happen to people with thin, less-elastic skin who have had skin only lip lifts and have overused the mouth post surgery. Since my surgery involved cutting the muscle also, I am guessing that my incision area is more robust, but still, stretching my upper lip over my teeth for a prolonged period of time once a week doesn’t seem like a good idea. So basically I have been refusing to go down on him since the surgery and he is really unhappy about it. It really sucks (or not, as the case may be) for both of us but obviously more for him. I am not sure what to do about this - how long I should wait before resuming normal service, and will I even actually be able to go back to what I was doing before (method, duration, frequency). Maybe giving so many BJs even contributed to my long philtrum in the first place??? I have no idea. I would be very grateful for any input from ladies who have have been, or are, in the same position.
I still wouldn’t meet anyone I know without concealing the scar with makeup, but for just running errands and stuff during the day I would go out barefaced now. Even 10 days ago I wouldn’t have done so because I would have been afraid to appear grotesque even to complete strangers that I would never see again.
My scar care routine is now simplified to silicone only, either silicone gel (Biocorneum) or silicone tape (Mepitac). During the day I use the gel and at night when I go to bed to use the tape because I move around a lot when I sleep, including smooshing my face into the pillow, so gel would just come off on the pillow.
In terms of lip/mouth movement, things are completely back to normal except for just two things: 1. I still am hesitant to open my mouth wide with my lips pulled back to the limit in order to floss between my last two molars. This is because I don’t want to strain the the corner lift incision, nothing to do with the bullhorn incision. So I floss all my teeth except for the last molar at the back in each quadrant.
2. Sorry for tmi, but I am terrified of giving my husband BJs. Before the surgery I would go down on him once a week or so (to completion, so like, the whole thing would last quite a long time) but of course this involves pulling the upper lip down and into the mouth to wrap the lip around the bottom edge of the top teeth to prevent injury to the man, and I am scared that doing this will stretch the philtrum and the bullhorn scar down. I’ve seen photos of people whose philtrum have lengthened again post lip lift surgery, with very wide bullhorn scars because the scar has stretched down. My understanding is that this can happen to people with thin, less-elastic skin who have had skin only lip lifts and have overused the mouth post surgery. Since my surgery involved cutting the muscle also, I am guessing that my incision area is more robust, but still, stretching my upper lip over my teeth for a prolonged period of time once a week doesn’t seem like a good idea. So basically I have been refusing to go down on him since the surgery and he is really unhappy about it. It really sucks (or not, as the case may be) for both of us but obviously more for him. I am not sure what to do about this - how long I should wait before resuming normal service, and will I even actually be able to go back to what I was doing before (method, duration, frequency). Maybe giving so many BJs even contributed to my long philtrum in the first place??? I have no idea. I would be very grateful for any input from ladies who have have been, or are, in the same position.
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June 30, 2019
Looking good. Scar seems very vague. I imagine with some effort and passage of time, it will be nearly inconspicuous.
Regarding the BJ situation , I lold at “ maybe giving so many bjs contributed to my long philtrum “. Ummm no. But your partner is indeed a lucky guy .lol. I think you can wait a few more weeks and start with all activity. If you really have serious doubts you can ask anonymously on this site. It’s awkward but I have seen top docs respond to some pretty odd questions. I honestly don’t think it will be an issue after you have healed.
Regarding the BJ situation , I lold at “ maybe giving so many bjs contributed to my long philtrum “. Ummm no. But your partner is indeed a lucky guy .lol. I think you can wait a few more weeks and start with all activity. If you really have serious doubts you can ask anonymously on this site. It’s awkward but I have seen top docs respond to some pretty odd questions. I honestly don’t think it will be an issue after you have healed.
June 30, 2019
Haha, yes, it did seem ridiculous (that giving bjs would stretch the philtrum permanently) but you know, just couldn’t help the niggling doubt. It has crossed my mind to ask Dr Song but I’m too embarrassed to ask him to his face! I think I might go with your advice to hold out a few more weeks (Dr Song does say 3 months post op is when you have to take care not to overuse the mouth) then start tentatively. Maybe I’ll also experiment to see if I can adjust my technique a bit so as not to stretch the upper lip so much. Thank you for responding!
July 1, 2019
I asked this question on here and didn't get a proper reply ha. So contacted my surgeon and he said 2 months.
July 1, 2019
Oh! Thank you! 2 months seems.. aggressive. I tried for the first time a week ago and couldn’t do it. I was too scared and cautious. I would really have had to stretch the upper lip to cover the teeth, and I am not sure if physically it would have been possible, but I never found out because I didn’t let myself really go for it. But at least I now know that from a surgeon’s point of view, it’s ok to do so. Thanks again!
July 1, 2019
Your LL scar just fades amazingly within only 10 days from the last update. For your concerns about stretching scar, I remember my doctor mentioning about this during my last (and only) follow up appointment. He said the scar was prone to stretching esp during the first 3 mos po, so I should be careful not to pull my upper lip down a lot during these 3 months. So, I guess, it should be ok for us to "gradually" resume our normal activities after 3 mos mark. You yourself can also tell when you feel no tension in the incision area when moving the lips. I really love your result. It's flawless.
July 1, 2019
Thank you BengeBenge. I hope things are getting a little better for you too.
July 1, 2019
Lol. I wasn’t worried about “that “ problem after my LL! Never even dawned “upon” me or him! Lol
Good luck and just use extreme caution!!! There’s always your hands!!! Hmmmm. Lol
July 1, 2019
Good for you, ransrvr, to not let the surgery get in the way of your life. I feel much better knowing that it doesn’t hurt the surgery results!
July 1, 2019
You go girl!! Surgery only improves our life!!! We women are all here on this platform for the same reason. We are all a SISTERHOOD!! Love ya girlfriend!!!
Xoxo
Hugs. Hugs. Hugs.
You DO you!! Yessss!!
July 1, 2019
You are such a source of inspiration and comfort, ransrvr! I am so glad you are on this forum brightening up our lives :-))
July 1, 2019
Awwww thx Lydia!
I have my plastic surgeon to thank for introducing me to this platform five years ago. I’ve met so many wonderful people on here!
I also want to thank my plastic surgeon for helping me to restore my self esteem after a tragedy. She excels in her practice, and has a heart of gold!!!!!
UPDATED FROM EternalNomad
2 months post
Surgery +10 weeks
It’s been a while since my last update. I have been a bit busy with lots of birthdays and travel and such, which is why I’ve been scarce. I apologise for my absence.
So, I’ve finally been forced to get out and socialise. I’d been putting off meeting people for as long as possible post surgery because I was really concerned about my scars and how I was going to conceal them. I’ll be honest - it takes very careful and meticulous application of concealer and foundation to cover the scars. No one has mentioned anything about noticing the scars, and none of my friends or acquaintances have asked me if I have had anything done. Sometimes I feel that people are looking at the area where the scars are, but I am not sure if they actually are looking, or if I am just being paranoid. Obviously, makeup cannot 100% conceal the scars - I myself can see the scars through the makeup if I look closely in the mirror in bright light. Other people are not going to be examining me at close range, but I do wonder if they can see something.
I have attached photos of the scars before and after makeup so you can judge for yourselves. I deliberately stood right in front of a window on a sunny day, in bright morning sun, when taking the photos, to show up the scars as much as possible. I also used the rear camera on my iPhone XS to take a clear picture. I would say the photos are an accurate representation of how the scars look in bright natural light. The photos have not been touched up in any way whatsoever.
As you can see from the photos, the scars are still noticeable. There is no way I would leave the house without covering them in some way. The corner lip lift scars on either side of my mouth are particularly bothersome. However, if I look back at older photos, I can see that they have come a long way. I guess I just have to keep patient.
Aside from the scars I am happy with the results of the surgery. I am also pleased with the amount of fat retention from the fat transfer. My lips are much plumper than before the fat transfer, but without looking artificial or excessive.
So, I’ve finally been forced to get out and socialise. I’d been putting off meeting people for as long as possible post surgery because I was really concerned about my scars and how I was going to conceal them. I’ll be honest - it takes very careful and meticulous application of concealer and foundation to cover the scars. No one has mentioned anything about noticing the scars, and none of my friends or acquaintances have asked me if I have had anything done. Sometimes I feel that people are looking at the area where the scars are, but I am not sure if they actually are looking, or if I am just being paranoid. Obviously, makeup cannot 100% conceal the scars - I myself can see the scars through the makeup if I look closely in the mirror in bright light. Other people are not going to be examining me at close range, but I do wonder if they can see something.
I have attached photos of the scars before and after makeup so you can judge for yourselves. I deliberately stood right in front of a window on a sunny day, in bright morning sun, when taking the photos, to show up the scars as much as possible. I also used the rear camera on my iPhone XS to take a clear picture. I would say the photos are an accurate representation of how the scars look in bright natural light. The photos have not been touched up in any way whatsoever.
As you can see from the photos, the scars are still noticeable. There is no way I would leave the house without covering them in some way. The corner lip lift scars on either side of my mouth are particularly bothersome. However, if I look back at older photos, I can see that they have come a long way. I guess I just have to keep patient.
Aside from the scars I am happy with the results of the surgery. I am also pleased with the amount of fat retention from the fat transfer. My lips are much plumper than before the fat transfer, but without looking artificial or excessive.
Replies (5)
June 20, 2019
I can barely see your scars in photo #1, but I understand how you feel about being comfortable in public without friends noticing anything. Photo two is just perfect, you surely worked magic with concealer and foundation
All in all, your lips are simply beautiful. The shape is lovely!!! You are beautiful! I had my scar lasered recently and it definitely helped. It’s not completely gone, but substantially improved
June 21, 2019
Thank you! Your results are amazing. I can’t wait to be 2+ years post surgery like you.
June 21, 2019
Thank you. I just posted a new review showing Juvederm in the corners of my lips. You can see how my lips look now.
June 21, 2019
You look amazing for 10 weeks, the shape of your lip are stunning,,, you will do great just give some time I honestly think it’s 50%in are head I’ve been going throw the same think with my butt implants
June 21, 2019
Your lips look amazing. I believe with some effort and a few different modalities, the scars will fade
June 21, 2019
I really hope so. Maybe my expectations were too optimistic. For some reason I kind of expected to be able to go out without makeup by this point post surgery.
June 21, 2019
Well yes , expecting it to be much better than what it is now would be a surplus of optimism. Scars will fade gradually, if you can afford it you should go on an aggressive anti scar regimen of topicals and some lighter therapies. Vitman C , Ahas , photobiomodulation. Silicone gel . All should help. Your lip shape and volume is gorgeous so take comfort in that.
June 21, 2019
Glad seeing your update! Honestly, your result could be the one I’ve dreamt of. Scar is healing well and can be perfectly concealed with make up. No one can notice. Love it!
June 21, 2019
Thank you. I think I was a bit negative in my update because trying to cover the scars with makeup the first few times was quite stressful! I had never had to conceal anything with makeup before.
June 24, 2019
I might have a lip lift later this year, just a minor one as my philtrum is not that long... but I’m still thinking back and forth, looking for other solutions like porcelain veneers for more tooth show. I understand you totally, that’s my fear too. I have all these thoughts like - How long am I going to have to avoid my friends? Will the scar be really visible to ppl? Will I look very much different that they’ll notice? Etc etc... but from your pics, I think redness will subside and fade yes? And scar texture will be smoother over time.. I remember when I had rhino- septoplasty, after I removed the cast, nobody not even in my family noticed the scars around my nostrils, and even if they did they said looks like an acne scar.. I was bothered by it though, and I did get laser treatment.. it takes time I guess and everyone is different. Now I’m ok with it and I kind of realised I was the only one noticing it. Your lips look beautiful, and with make-up I can’t see a thing. I hope you update us some more and show before pics too. Thanks for your pics!
June 30, 2019
Thank you! If your philtrum is not that long I think porcelain veneers might be enough in terms of getting more tooth show. BUT getting veneers on completely healthy teeth (assuming there is nothing wrong with your teeth currently) just for more tooth show seems a bit drastic to me. Your teeth have to be shaved for the veneers to be applied, after which, the teeth can never revert to their original state. Since getting extractions on completely healthy teeth I am much more aware of the importance of keeping teeth intact in their natural state. I SO regret just pulling out 4 teeth for no reason other than cosmetic, and it turns out even cosmetically it wasn’t a good decision. I think you would be causing less damage to your overall health and looks long term by leaving your teeth alone and getting the bullhorn lift - you are only snipping off a bit of unwanted skin at the end of the day. Especially since from previous experience you seem not to scar badly. This is only my personal view, of course!
July 1, 2019
Thanks, yes I do agree with you, that’s why I haven’t done it til now. I’m sorry about your extractions! But I’ve heard of lumineers which don’t require any shaving and I might get that PLUS a lip lift for the best results. Btw, how’s the scar at the corner of your lips now? Did you really need to get them?
July 1, 2019
To be completely honest, I am not sure whether I actually needed the corner lift. The corner lift was to prevent the lip corners turning down from the bullhorn lift, but since I got the two surgeries simultaneously, there is no way of knowing what my corners would have looked like without the corner lift! However, I had seen a lot of post bullhorn lift photos with turned down corners (not everyone has this problem) and I reckoned, if there was a decent chance that this would happen to me and I would need to get the corner lift surgery eventually anyway, I would rather get the two surgeries at the same time and go through the recovery process just once.
Another reason I got the corner lift done (which wouldn’t apply to most other people) was to get excess skin removed around the mouth that had resulted from loss of teeth/alveolar bone volume due to the extractions. Of course, it was not possible to get rid of all the excess skin around the mouth since the incisions are only made at the lip corners, but the idea was to reduce the excess to the extent possible. I have to say, on this particular point, I don’t think I am seeing any improvement.. Maybe there is some residual swelling in that area that is obscuring the improvement, I don’t know. There definitely has been swelling post surgery (the area around the lip corners were protruding and fat looking) which has gradually been dissipating. It remains to be seen if it will go down further, in which case some improvement might be seen.
The corner lift scars are more noticeable than the bullhorn scar. But I think this is because the scars are in a more visible area (flat area of skin) compared to the bullhorn scar which is in the natural crease where the nose base meets the face, rather than because the scars themselves are worse looking.
Thanks for the tip on lumineers. I will look into them since I have been thinking I would like veneers to increase the volume of my teeth (because my dental arch has got so small due to the ill-advised extractions) - the only thing holding me back was the thought of having to damage my teeth.
Another reason I got the corner lift done (which wouldn’t apply to most other people) was to get excess skin removed around the mouth that had resulted from loss of teeth/alveolar bone volume due to the extractions. Of course, it was not possible to get rid of all the excess skin around the mouth since the incisions are only made at the lip corners, but the idea was to reduce the excess to the extent possible. I have to say, on this particular point, I don’t think I am seeing any improvement.. Maybe there is some residual swelling in that area that is obscuring the improvement, I don’t know. There definitely has been swelling post surgery (the area around the lip corners were protruding and fat looking) which has gradually been dissipating. It remains to be seen if it will go down further, in which case some improvement might be seen.
The corner lift scars are more noticeable than the bullhorn scar. But I think this is because the scars are in a more visible area (flat area of skin) compared to the bullhorn scar which is in the natural crease where the nose base meets the face, rather than because the scars themselves are worse looking.
Thanks for the tip on lumineers. I will look into them since I have been thinking I would like veneers to increase the volume of my teeth (because my dental arch has got so small due to the ill-advised extractions) - the only thing holding me back was the thought of having to damage my teeth.
July 1, 2019
I did. I was tossing up between fat transfer and v-y for the lower lip. For the upper lip, no, because I had to shorten the philtrum anyway, and I thought the bullhorn lift would shorten the philtrum AND make the upper lip bigger and flipped out at the same time. In the end the reason I went with the fat transfer was: 1. I really wanted to get all the surgeries done in one session rather than having multiple separate surgeries. Doing the bullhorn and corner lift together already was estimated to take 5.5 hours. I couldn’t fit in a lower lip v-y as well, as that would make the total surgery time 7.5 hours. So I decided to do bullhorn + corner lift + lower lip fat transfer together since the fat transfer is a much quicker procedure than the v-y.
2. I was concerned that the v-y may change the shape of my lip. I like the shape of my lower lip, and when I had more natural volume in my teens and twenties, and when I had more teeth to support the lip (before the extractions) I was 100% happy with how my lip looked. So, I thought, if I just re-injected volume (fat) back into my lower lip, it would go back to looking like it did when I was younger as opposed to being “changed” from my natural shape.
Unfortunately, getting enough volume increase through fat transfer is going to take many sessions. This is because I don’t retain fat well. I have a crazy fast metabolism, I exercise a lot, I use my mouth a lot, I am just very active in all the ways that are not conducive to fat retention! So, now that I have had two fat transfer sessions to both my top and bottom lips (the volume of the top lip didn’t increase as much as I hoped it would from the lip lift either), and seen the retention rate, I am wondering if I should just have v-y on both lips and be done with it rather than go through multiple further sessions of fat transfer. I am not sure. The advantages of the fat transfer are that it is a very simple procedure with no downtime, and it doesn’t change the shape of my lips at all, just plumps them up. The downside is obviously that it’s like trying to feed an elephant with an eyedropper. I can see that I am retaining some fat each time I get the fat transfer, but I want more of it!
2. I was concerned that the v-y may change the shape of my lip. I like the shape of my lower lip, and when I had more natural volume in my teens and twenties, and when I had more teeth to support the lip (before the extractions) I was 100% happy with how my lip looked. So, I thought, if I just re-injected volume (fat) back into my lower lip, it would go back to looking like it did when I was younger as opposed to being “changed” from my natural shape.
Unfortunately, getting enough volume increase through fat transfer is going to take many sessions. This is because I don’t retain fat well. I have a crazy fast metabolism, I exercise a lot, I use my mouth a lot, I am just very active in all the ways that are not conducive to fat retention! So, now that I have had two fat transfer sessions to both my top and bottom lips (the volume of the top lip didn’t increase as much as I hoped it would from the lip lift either), and seen the retention rate, I am wondering if I should just have v-y on both lips and be done with it rather than go through multiple further sessions of fat transfer. I am not sure. The advantages of the fat transfer are that it is a very simple procedure with no downtime, and it doesn’t change the shape of my lips at all, just plumps them up. The downside is obviously that it’s like trying to feed an elephant with an eyedropper. I can see that I am retaining some fat each time I get the fat transfer, but I want more of it!
July 1, 2019
Thanks for your customary detailed response. So helpful. Did you see any v y plasty b n as in office? Were they comparable to fat graft results like yours ?
July 2, 2019
Hmm.. the effect is slightly different. With a v-y, the lip is pushed out from the inside, so the inner mucous membrane is visible (of course, over time, this membrane becomes outer skin due to constant exposure) , whereas with fat transfer the lip is exactly the same as before, just more filled up. From what I have seen (and Dr Song says this too), the v-y disproportionately makes the middle 2/3 of the lip bigger while the outer ends don’t change that much, so the curvature of the lip becomes more exaggerated. Not sure if I am explaining this clearly. I feel that after v-y the lip looks a little like pouty baby lips?? I think the v-y gives more forward protrusion than fat transfer could ever give.
My ideal would be to keep doing fat transfers until the volume I want is reached, for the reasons I explained above (I don’t want to change the shape of my lips), but I can see that this will be very time consuming and more expensive in the long run, so... undecided.
My ideal would be to keep doing fat transfers until the volume I want is reached, for the reasons I explained above (I don’t want to change the shape of my lips), but I can see that this will be very time consuming and more expensive in the long run, so... undecided.
The litmus test is going to be my family. Far from being polite about it, if they thought I had plastic surgery done they would crucify me.