Two IPL Sessions Caused Damage — Extremely Upst - Bryn Mawr, PA

Thank you! I might agree with you however this happened immediately after an IPL. I’ve never had issues like this with my skin. But I would love it if it actually wasn’t IPL damge and something easily fixed so thank you for giving me hope! I will look into what you said

My damage lie yours happened also immediately. I messaged you. We should def talk!

Did your skin ever resolve? I’m going through the same thing.

Were you able to repair the damage ? What did you do? My skin is extremely dry anf my face looks flat, my nasolabial folds are gone. I knew hydration was an issue and my face doesn't produce any oil. The problem is my face is so sensitive that every cream flares me up . I tried cerave , aveeno, skinceurivals B5 (terrible after ip), biafine and vanicream . I can only tolerate the biafine somewhat . I have bizarre texture and etching . Hypopigmentation . I don't know how to hydrate my face . Any oils I have tried have torn the skin, I had two large pores after ipl and they tore anf turned into a slit after I put oil on! I tried another oil
In another area before I figured it out anf it made a circle turn oblong . My barrier is destroyed and the oil breaks it down further so not trying emu oil. I don't know how to hydrate my face . I guess we have 20 years of Sun damage now .

Words and thoughts have power. You have to have faith- some, but not all, is up to us with our mental attitude. Using victim language like “my skin is torn, my barrier is destroyed, the oil ripped my pores” is literally creating your experience. It’s scientifically proven that what you think and say becomes your realty. Watch “The Secret” on a Netflix if you haven’t already. Stop staring in the mirror and spending every second of your precious life on this forum. You will find that as soon as you stop obscessing and giving in to your negative thoughts that your body can finally start to heal. As a nurse, one thing we learned in school is that every single thought and emotion you have, your pituitary gland creates and secretes hormones that mimick those thoughts. Do you want that toxicity circulating in your body? Try reciting positive affirmations and get out of the house. It will do wonders for your skin. But it takes time. One thing is for sure: what you are curently doing is NOT working for you. So try something different.

I agree I'm in a horrible pit of negativity and crisis , I'm very hurt and depressed . I hsve spine issues and I did the ipl
, although I only wanted it above my lip and she went everywhere , to I guess still take care of myself . It's difficult for me to get around so I just thought I still had positive things , like my face so take care of those things. So I lost that too now and it's devestating, I used to Wouk out 6 days a week, was very athletic etc etc and that's all stopped so I can't even go distract myself , I made my home prison worse but ruining my face! Anyeays , I don't know what to do . Everyone says it keeps getting worse and so far , that's true . I Just want a moisturizer I can use so I can put it on and not go in the bathroom and stare in the mirror . Just moisturize and don't look but I now hsve dermagraphia from the ipl , my thyroid crashed and I don't know where this ends . Looking at the texture it's near impossible to convince myself that it's temporary . If it is , I can forget abiur it but it's the fear of getting worse or the damage remaining permanent . I hsve etched lines in my face , bizarre patterns and actual holes, and 2 weeks ago I was better than today so it's scary . I'm angry at myself . I talked other out of laser . I never wanted laser and somehow I brought this upon myself bevaude the dr insisted I had s few hyper spots on my cheek then went crazy with the machine , no explanation . Anyeays , I've lost everything now , I guess there is no point to be on the board , I wanted to hear people's experience and advice and was hopIng I would hsve the solution to offer everyone . No one has a turn around story

My heart aches for you and I wish I could Help you :(
My advice: write down how many hours a day and how much energy you think you are putting into these negative thoughts and forums. Then, just one day, pretend that your skin isn’t the way it is now. What would you do with your day? What friend would you reach out to to help with THEIR problems? What hobbies would you enjoy if your has perfect skin? I spent literally all of last year stuck in negative thoughts. Obscessing about my skin and feeling angry and ashamed with myself for how I abused my skin with tanning and drinking and eating shitty food. I almost lost my relationship over it and I did in fact lose two friends who said they couldn’t be around such a negative person. Then, I decided that I was NOT accepting this reality. I started praying and haven’t stopped. I started going to church, I started taking art classes and having fun wit friends even though my skin still looks bad from sun damage and from laser. So even though I want to cry when I look In the mirror I at least don’t feel suicidal anymore. 2018 is a year of manifesting- of sowing seeds and reaping a harvest. Imagine that you are planting seeds. You have faith that by watering them and caring for the soil that eventually they will grow into beautiful plants. Even though you cannot SEE them under the soil right now, you know that with proper nurturing and time they will blossom. Imagine how awful those months would be if you spent every second staring at the soil, wondering if they will grow! It’s the same with your body and skin. Yes, you have some shitty things with your health right now- but don’t let that define you as a person. Do not let your circumstances rule you.

I invite you to Read from the Bible about healing. While it may not change things immediately, you will be planting good seeds with good soil.

https://dailyverses.net/healing

I appreciate your thoughts and time . Everyday I say I won't obsess on my face , just look how it's doing , but then I see new damage and feel gut punched . I have shiny white patches and I'm thinking shiny means all pigment has been lost , it creates a lined effect at the top of my cheeks and under my eyes so I look terrible . My best feature is my eyes and now she took that away. I feel deeply ashamed that I didn't act more assertively and say no and leave . While she was doing it my heart was racing and i was scared but I felt ashamed then too, frozen. That's part of the devestation, that i allowed it . I was on the board a few years back Tallking to women in dm who had laser damage and trying to help them, I stopped anyone from getting laser . So how did I do this to myself ? It's like I had a mental lapse . I'll try my best to do other things but my life changes dramatically the past few years because of my spine so I'm not the same person anymore . I used to help everyone , that's how peoole knew me , now I can barely do anything so this on top of it is too much really . Maybe I can warn orhers and just hope the end will come soon for me.

It’s for some self love, girl! Real Self will still be here in a week, I promise. Take a break for a week. Think about other things and allow your mind to rest so your body can heal. You need to get out of this spiral. And if you have to be on the Internet, at least start reading about natural cures. Look into horse chestnut seed extract, artichoke, and turmeric extracts for internal and external use. It’s very fascinating. Turn these lemons into lemonade. It has even sparked me to change my career track with nursing- I no longer will work in the ER where sickness and misery taints everything and everyone. Now I’m going to start working at a holistic plastic surgery center with a wild renowned surgeon who puts all his patients on bone broth and fresh juice pre and post surgery. I would like to learn from him about making natural skin care (he makes his own line) so that one day I too can help people. You have a lot to offer people when you have struggled with the issue yourself. How will you turn this into a positive?

Glad you made that change and are feeling well. I think natural remedies are best too . I can't heal , the skin is metalic white , I never thought that would happen . I hsve deep red/purple marks . I look at my photos from the day before and hate what I've done . There is no turning it into a positive , I'm badly scared and disfigured . It's my face an it matters to me . I have to accept reality and not live in denial and shock and once i accept reality , I certainly no longer want to be around . Thsts the way it is

I fear with those words and that mindset you will never get better. I hope you can find strength and reach for that higher power and belief. If not, then this will remain your reality.

Even the words “I cant Heal” is preventing you from healing! Stop with those words. Words manifest your reality. Good luck to you.

You're right . I had a complete and total mental breakdown after I wrote my last message . I have not looked in the mirror again which is a first for me and I had new damage today that I wanted to "monitor". I feel everything I read, came true , either it would have happened or I helped it along , I don't know . I did use oils and that causes pinholes and I had no holes , now just where I put the oils! I am going to use nothing , absolutely nothing on the outside . My face burns and is so dehydrated but all moisturizers burn and inflame me and I kept using them! I just wish I knew it wasn't permanent and won't progress, I need hope and no old has a recovery story . But no products at all anymore , not for a month . Hope to god my barrier returns . Had I done that a month ago maybe no holes but the derm who did the laser said it was bevaude my skin was dry so I became obsessed with moisturizer , it's all I could think about, she is the expert and she says it's dryness so moisturizer is the answer . I emailed with photos showing a red face with missing skin , down to the meat and all inflamed amd she said "everything looks fine ". So that should have been the first clue she is a shameless low life and forget the dry skin excuse , not to mention she never told me this would make me permanently dry! I hope the holes can close . Worse , the barrier is not the only thing gone , I look burned , skin is white and pink , like I had ablative laser , might as well have ! So my plan is so nothing and don't look anymore . I'm scared but I hsve to because it's too much pain . I fear the shock when I do look again bevaude it's not my face. I'll see what happens in one month with no chemicals . Water only. How much did you improve ? What was it like after ipl? Orange peel or holes ? Thanks

I’m glad you have a plan. Less worry! Less manifesting symptoms by reading about what if! It’s gonna be a while before I think I’ll see improvement but I’m doing the right things and I’ve stopped obscessing.

I agree we manifest it because we carry out the fear. It's scary though , my skin is way worse than the entire time, totally broke down from trying to use moisturizer . I hsve a metallic sheen allover my face , as a medical professional , do you know why? My guess is severe dehydration . Boy it's bad now but it gives me hope that the other metalic sheen is temporary or all permanent , not sure but sincere it's my entire face , maybe it's reversible . Thanks for all your help . Wish we could all meet and educate one another and support . You can be the spiritual guru

I have a problem with dehydrated skin to the point it cracks how dry it is and a very sensitive skin. What my dermatologist switch me to changed everything. I use Bioderma Atoderm line for very dry, irritated and atopic skin. It helped me tremendously so it might be worth a try. I also used La Roche Posay Cicaplast and Toleriane which were also good but I prefer Bioderma.

I'm not there yet, I can't tolerate anything aside from biafine and it's done it's job , you can't overuse it or it starts exfoliating the skin. I gave myself a burn using moisturizer , cerave , aveeno, vanicream , skinceuticals and my regular cream . Aveeno has panthenol which is an acid , any acid won't work for anyone who is wondering , not HA , nothing , skin is a mess . One common thread here is everyone starting slapping products on their face out of sheer terror , anxiety and to address the dry as a desert feeling . These dr's never once mention dryness or how long the recovery is or that you should ice your face or that you shouldn't wash it the first 72 hours . The lasers are dangerous and should be banned but they don't even bother to reduce the risk . All the fat loss peoole experience is actually their collagen and elastin , there is a molting fire beneath the surface for 6 months . Biafine will knock that out if you use it abiut a week but no more , you overdo it and you'll regret it . A thin layer , once a day for 3 days and really that should be it . It performed miracles on my face , dramatic . Then I got stupid , started trying argan and emu oil, oil is a big no unless you think putting oil on a burn is a good idea . We can't see the burn but it's on fire in there hence the sensitivity anf burning and dryness . In the end I decided to do nothing . I decided that last week then got worried reading things here and started moisturizer , in that last week I started to get holes then slits , anywhere I put moisturizer . The epidermis is blown wide open , it's all protruding outward hence the orange peel look . Anyways , I decided to hydrate internally and get some supplements : fish oil, flax oil, someone told me about collagen power by neocell , I juiced (not smoothie) to get antioxidants to stop the oxidative stress process as much as possible .drinking 7 glasses of water and hsve 2 humidifiers going . Stopped washing my face and won't wash it for the next month but with water or maybe every 2 weeks . No make up , no sunscrwen , the zinc will kill whatever hydration you get. I am not even putting lotion on my legs . Deodorant only . I may be imagining but my face is 20% better . I hsve a long ways to go but I don't feel dry anymore for th first time in 7 weeks by just doing nothing for 2 days but hydrating internally . The progression literally stopped , I hope . But 3 days leading up I did a lot of damage with the darn moisturizers . I save some running holes and track marks bevaude she decided to go in my hairline bevaude she is a b*itch, we never discussed that and it was not a full face treatment , I refused . But that tells you how much heat there is that it spread allover my face , my entire face turns bright red and the inflammation is so bad my forehead turned black from light olive , it's literally the color black from her just going on my hairline and a few in the center . I'm not trapping the heat in there and watching my face get worse by the day . These dr's should put peoole having problems on biafine and instruct them no washing and zero topicals but they don't care . I'll update later but I think the progression is over bevaude my face has calmed down considerable . It's still inflsmned so I'm going on a round of oral steroids . I did that already but was ruining it with moisturizer . I used Avène and the mineral oil literally opened holes in my face and stretched out tiny flaws , it the creams, oils and washing because the inflammation is just too much .im positive it's the creams , i know from direct correlation the 3 days before I quit everything. Put on cream , new damage , put on cream , new damage , it happens so fast. In fact I used vanicream on one finger and swirled it into a line developing in the middle of my forehead bevaude I hsve no wrinkles and panicked and you can see puffy swirls right on the line , it imprinted ! Our faces our like playdough , totally compromised . I'll keep these products in mind for 6 months out from now, thsts how long heat stays . Anyone in the first 6 months who is having a horrible outcome from laser should not use the atoderm, 3rd ingredient is mineral oil , I used Avène with mineral oil for years , no problem , but ok inflsmned skin , it punched holes in my face then they ripped . The cicaplast is loaded with ingredients to burn you into the next century , Shea butter , dimethicone , even drying Zinc . Everyone is at different stages I just want to clarify if someone is in the burning , inflsmned stage , do not use it , it will tear your face off . If your way out and it works that's great . Did you resolve your dansge or was it only the dryness? I'm judt glad today is the first day I feel moisturized and I used nothing . I also took a brisk walk and my face sweated for the first time , I don't know , the do nothing is doing something . Let's see what happens . Just glad I'm free from
The moisturizer drama . I'll keep a list of products from down the line but after this im getting a cream compounded by a plastic surgeon or ethical dermatologist , something that expires every month and I keep in the fridge . I'm done with the cosmetic world.

Ok I am clearly not doing well as evidenced by the very long circular replies . I decided my face is destroyed and I'm permanently disfigured bevaude thsts the reality . It's like wax or plastic , it looks burned . Like the top layer of my face was removed . I am burned , it's never coming back, that waxy orange peel top layer is my new face , it's scar tissue . Only burns can cause texture changes , all the weird designs and holes and waxy and it's exactly where she used the laser , I never agreed to where she went , I even tOld her are we seeing the same 2 spots and she said yes , she always rushes to go to the next person and doesn't care . She did what she wanted and it seems on purpose . Anyways , I can't accept this . I understand Angela Walker. I let someone do this to me , I'm disfigured for life . I can't even wear makeup over a wax face . I'm humiliated and deeply ashsmaed , I don't want to feel like that forever . It's just done. Time won't help , nothing will help . My skin is like waxy and plastic . Doesn't matter what we do after , the laser destroyed the skin and elastin and collagen , I look like a monster . Huge holes , playoffs texture , dents , red scars , weird swirls , Judy destroyed . I hsve etched lines. Safe to say it's over . Hope others hsve better luck .

I think You need to see a counselor immediately

No need to reply to this as it’s going to be more of the same circular conversation. We get it; we ar sorry. But you need to get your life together!

did tons of research on this crazy skin condition but unfortunately all the research i did was horrifying because no one seemed to be able to fix the problem. reading other people's forums let me know that these dermatologist could not be trusted. most people ended up worse off with more damage. allot of people think this texture is due to inflamed skin, personally i think it's dehydrated, damaged skin that has now become loose due to the damage.I know that mine came from retin a damage and going out into the sun like a dummy. i didn't follow the directions & didn't even bother to read the package. I had broken caps all over my face and large pores all over, with lines that connected to the holes that looked like enlarged pores. My face felt like it was on fire and my cheeks looked red all the time. kind of like a bad case of rosacea with squiggly lines all over the place.I read that some people had fixed theirs with emu oil and manuka honey.i tried that for months and it didn't work,it did however make a slight difference.i tried rosehip oil and it didn't work, i tried DML lotion and it didn't work.so i did some research on broken caps, sun damaged skin, foods to eat to heal aging wrinkled skin and how to tighten skin, derma rolling etc. after 2 years of trying different things this is what worked for me. what ever you do, do not! i repeat do not use a derma rollers,over the counter skin products, do not use any cosmetic products on ya face what so ever! all you need to cure this is the right diet and natural oils and veggies that's it. it is super cheap. buying products that have all these ingredients in with these big words that most don't even know what the heck they are.i was starting to see progress and then i used a dermaroller and my skin got even worse it took me 6 months to recover from the damage. I found that manuka honey dried my skin out even more! okay so here is how i fixed it,,,, step 1. cut caffeine, sugar & alcohol out of ya diet asap!you have recently had major damage done to ya skin so you need all the moisture, vitamins and minerals you can to help restore and repair the damage from the inside out. when i say drink water i mean drink allot of it! i would drink a gallon a day with sliced cucumber and lemon in it. your body needs water to heal itself, we are 70% water. as soon as i wake up before i eat i would have a glass of warm lemon water then i would use some of the leftover lemon juice to wash my face. lemon is a natural cleanser and it helps heal wrinkles. let it sit on ya skin no longer then 30 sec then rinse off with cold water. do not use wash clothes just use ya hand and be gentle, always pat dry skin and don't pull or rub on your skin. after that i would use a slice of cucumber to tighten the loose skin, take a slice and rub it all over ya face this will help cool ya face and tighten the loose skin. u will feel the skin tightening and the pores closing. dont be alarmed if u look in the mirror and ya skin is so tight that it has lines this will go away after a couple times of doing this. it's just from your skin tightening and healing and since ya skin is loose its going to take some time to heal. after u do this moisturize yous skin with emu oil. i used the emu oil once every hour and i used the montana brand . i am a firm believer in speaking things into existence. so every time im doing this to my face i would say... my skin is restoring itself my skin is healing i am beautiful. visualize and believe your skin is getting better. im on day three and my skin looks amazing, my skin has a glow to it the pores and creepy lines are gone. i still have sun spots from the damage, but hey it's only been three days and i know that the sunspots will take some time to go away. i changed my diet during this time as well i cut out sugar, coffee and wine i ate lots of veggies, fruit and added flax seed to my fruit smoothies with tons of water. i ate lots of avocados and nuts like coconuts & almonds because your body needs healthy fats to help the skin heal. berries are really good for healing skin too. To get rid of the broken caps on my face... at night i would mix fresh avocado and grapeseed oil together and put it on my face. its super easy just mash up an avocado and add a tiny bit of grapeseed oil to it. leave it on for 15 min then wash it off. then i would add emu oil on my face throughout the night. mother nature provides us with everything we need to heal ourselves. dont use man made products on ya skin its full of chemicals. look up the benefits of lemon on the skin, avocado and grape seed oil. all these things are natural and gentle on the skin. i have before and after pics but this site dont have any way for me to upload them so if you want to see what i look like now just inbox me and i will send you the pics to ya email. hope this was helpful good luck to you all. i suffered from this for two years. i didn't give up i refused to believe i would have to live like this for the rest of my life. I kept searching and educating myself on skin and the health benefits of certain fruits and veggies.I have always been a firm believer of doing things the natural route. i will never ever again in life put anything made in a lab that is unnatural on my face, that's what got me in this predicament in the 1st place. you cant trust what's in these products. they dont care about you they only care about making money

Not trying to be rude but I have seen you post this same advice under different names on Essential day spa as well. If this is true can we see before/after photos? I have tried everything you can imagine (gentle things, no harsh products), changed diet etc. nothing works.

She is right , what does she have to gain by saying don't use anything , is she selling 'nothing' in a box? I saw a really good derm last week and she told me the same thing . Also, I noticed I always got worse when I used some cream. I have bad ipl damage . I'm 2 months out . I stopped doing anything for s week and yes I looked like hell and nothing was improving but I seemed stable . The butcher who messed up my face gave me some cream , no actives, I used it once and I got a ton of micro wrinkles , maybe a coincidence but those had not started yet and I panicked and applied the garbage again on the micro wrinkles and guess what ? It's was 5 times the area the next day. So I did what I knew was right and went bsck to nothing. A few days ago my oil glands started to work again and so whatever sebum that was produced I just left it there . I stopped looking st my face because I can only take so much trauma and I feel I'm going to end up at Bellevue State if I look anymore . So I look today and those ugly wrinkles are not as deep, will they go away, I don't know , maybe if I stopped using creams they wouldn't be there . Also, some red valleys thr laser created hsve skin patched in and my forehead is not all bubbly and nasty looking . There is something happening . At the same time I've been taking the best supplements available bevaude we don't even know if they're real or cow manure so I'm just taking the gamble . I drink more water and I put notjinb on my body either , no lotion or creams because the skin is an organ . I wash with John masters organic wash and thsts it , pat dry and done . You hsve to think like a caveman or like someone who isn't brainwashed by marketing, the entire ail is to make you work like a slave and then give all your money back to those who own your life and it's not even that simple , you are convinced to buy things that will ruin you , like the laser ?! I think anyone that has laser damage and doesn't wake up to how serious the problem is , or if you knew but said oh I can sneak in one of those cool shiny promises and get away with it , well , you can't , all of us got screwed whether we were more naive or we went against our own understanding . We gave our faces to money hungry peoole who let's see , sir they give a care what you came bsck damaged or did they gaslight you ? Half the trauma is how they shame you afterwards like you deserved it or how callous they are about it . It thsts not enough to never want to use this trash again , I don't know what will be . The skin has everythubv it needs to repair itself , we just don't know how much each of us will get but we can tilt the odds in our favor . I'm never using a single product again , my bf put them all in a bag and hid them and I said toss it. Not obsgi not skinceuricals not la mer not cerave not Pca not any of thid trash . It is all aging , peels , retin a , vit c , HA, if you are damaged and keep using this stuff , then maybe that's why you keep progressing . I don't know what will happen to my but I'm not putting s thing on my face , zero . In 6 months I hope I look like a human again and can wear make up but I certainly won't use any products . I might make a moisturizer out of 2-3 ingredients and keep it in the fridge and make s new one every month . Wash my face a few times s week with something I make that's creamy. I'm neber using trash again . Go look what happened to peoole who used retin s , your skin gets so ugly and thr damage is terrible and a lot of it permanent . If you hsve hyper p, go check your liver and do a cleanse . Are you pale and dull? Go check your thyrord . I never used any products or make up until I was 26 and I had the best skin I've ever seen on anyone . When I thought oh I'm supposed to be prp active to keep this , I ruined my skin and now look like s@it. I just got Ben Johnson book called 'transform you skin naturally', he is s plastic surgeon and he is saying the same thing debsey1979 is saying . It's not rocket science , look at our faces!

I’m addressing her, not you. She should have proof. I’m not trying to be a jerk but everybody who says they heal from this doesn’t ever provide before/after photos. I’ve been dealing with it over a year and I tried doing nothing for a few months and got WAY worse.

Yes,I know you were addressing her but it's an open board not a court of law and I was trying to help you by being another person who is also of thr opinion doing nothing is the best thing you can do . The people going on abiut Magic cream I think might provoke some doubt but she was saying to do nothing , it doesn't make much sense you expect her to provide proof . What have you done ? Tried a bunch of things on your face ? I mean you had laser damage and hsve rosacea and thrn used retin a? I know some dr's will tell you that bevaude they either want to cover for damaging you or they don't belirve you hsve laser damage and think it might help
You , they don't bother even looking st how weak your skin is or consider that you would be the last person to benefit from retin a having collapsed from laser . Thr woman here thst improved did a lot of internal things and she got better . Look , we all have major damage , if I look in the mirror I'll start crying again , I'm not saying eat some grapes and you'll be cured , the fact is your only chance is to do nothing but you've spent s few years making it worse , trying harsh things and gentle things but the things . Why don't you check the veracity of what some are saying. by stopping the things you are doing ? No lsser , cream or procedure will help you , it's a guarantee it will worsen you. Detmarollers, peels , any actives, are no longer options for us, we hsve dermal damage , collagen damage , thermal damage , it's done .

No I do not have laser damage. I have damage from an OTC retinol. My doctor says it is Rosacea. But it started after retinol and was an overnight change. I have seen your post history. You have hijacked every single post about every single procedure in the past several days. We have private messsaged. I have seen your photos. None of which have shown any visible damage. There are thousands of people on these boards who are damaged. It’s obvious from their photos. If you are one of those people, your photos don’t show it. I’m sorry but that is the truth.

Sorry didn't realize it was you, not interested in continuing and wish you luck

Thank you. I cannot relate to you at all. I need people who have visible proof of damage.

Why don't you post a before photo instead of claiming you're the only damaged one ? Maybe you started at a different place , it's all relative . What do I care if you cantrelate , like you said , you didn't hsve laser so we are not contending with the same issue . You seem to think having damage is a badge of honor and denying someone's is like the ultimate slight, lol! You do realize no one wants to be damaged , right ?

It’s not a badge of honor by any means. I’m just trying to find someone going through the same thing as me. I just want to find similar skin so I have someone to bounce ideas off of. I have found a few but not many and have shared before photos with them as well. Sorry I didn’t do that with you.

I don't need to see your Before photos , I take you on your word because peoole hsve better things to do than worry about damaged skin so if they say it's damaged , thrn it is . You demanded everyone post before snd after photos so kind of an odd demand considering you not doing it. I've seen people like you go on all these posts doing the same thing , claiming it's not really them or they were like that or notjinb is wrong , what's your point ? There is no trophy for being the most damaged , which you're not by far , whigb is s good thing . But it makes no sense to be so rude to derbey1979 for her saying don't use anything , like she owes you something . Her post helped me , it confirmed what I was guessing was true but was afraid to try , maybe it will help others . If you prefer to keep using things no one is going to stop you . And yes, I will share in many places as possible whst the derm told me , why wouldn't I unless I'm
A selfish person that thinks I'm the only person in the world and thr only one really suffering . Hsve you bothered to put warnings everywhere and oh retinol posts of what it can do? How many positive retinol posts hsve you bothered to put watngung up on to save someone ? Correct , I will post 10000 times to avoid all
Products

Not trying to be rude just asking. I’ve been burned in the past that’s why. Thank you and best of luck.

Oh and yes, I have posted EVERYWHERE about retinol. Specifically the product line I used. It was a multi level marketing product so most of my warnings have been on social media where selling it is most common. I filled out a product review and posted before and after photos as well. Just haven’t done so on here. Sorry. Have a fabulous night.

Well if you had read my comment before, I was quoting another person. I really do believe in this stuff. Anyways I have had 2 IPL treatments and was not damaged 2 years ago. Last october I had a dermapen treatment and YES I was damaged. Similar like this and other persons. The lines from cheeck to eye if you smile. And my skin was more loose.
I believe in natural solutions thats why I quote it.
And actually I'ven made a big improvement myself. I googled the hell out of myself. I dont use creams exept aloe vera cream and zink oxide sunscreen http://natural-alternative-therapies.com/aloe-vera-for-wrinkles/
I bought a RUBYLUX infrared bulb. You can buy it on amazon with a clamp and I really made a big improvement. You can read revieuws on Amazon! This thing is really amazing. I've been using it now 10 min every day for 3 weeks and my face has become more dense/fuller. Please reserach infrared therapy , it sounds to good to be true but it is really good. Microwrinkles are dissapearing and my face is fuller again. I think all those bad reactions to invasive treatments is that you damage your glands and your skin barriere. TWL=trandsermal water loss.
I take cod liver oil internally en make bone broth of chicken feet. I eat lots of GHEE and satured fats because they nourish your cells.

Well and I am only trying here to help. Do whatever you want! Good luck!

People get quick old because they are degenerated. I am a huge fan of Weston Price. I eat like that! I was damaged but this way of eating I do already for ten years. Thats why I was so upset about the damage from microneedling. Anothet beautycian of mine who is opposed this kind of treatment said, dont worry, give it time and it will heal. You have to do extra internally. She is right! Nature want to heal! Thats life! If tou have a wound you body repairs and it needs the good stuff to do it! The stress you undergo is making things worse, thats why the lamp is fantastic, you really see improvement in already 1-2 weeks what will give you positive energy.

I also found information about the infrared light, I read it before on the website of DR L Wilson. He is very holistic thinker.
No 4 monthsv after the treatment an d 3 weeks after using the red light my skin has improved very well!. I still have thos lines a little but it was way worse!! My skin is even fuller than before.
I also do a face exercise program and take 3 gram vitamin C and MSM. I also take schusslers calcium and silicea.

I am glad it helps you MC77 are you from 1977?? I am from 1979 my biggest fear was because I was around 40 almost it wouldnt heal! But I see now my skin is already healing. I will never ever mess with my skin again.I will continue using my CHEAP red light bulb and face exerices, good diet and supporting supllements and sunscreen, thats it!

Thank you for clarifying. I have actually looked into red light therapy and may try it. Again I wasn’t trying to be rude but emotions run high when you are severely damaged and have been for a year. Sounds like our damage was different though. I don’t have wrinkles really...more like indentions from the severe inflammation and orange peel texture. I’ve heard red light therapy can help with that too though. I just have to decide what brand to buy. Thanks again for not getting defensive.

I know, I felt that for a few months... all of a sudden I had those crepey lines and wrinkles on my cheeck when I smiled..and before my cheecks we're smooth.. I read a lot of the orange peel and indentions with skin damaged, my skin got looser as if collagen was destroyed... But red light works on a lot of areas. Just try the Rubyluyx with a clamb , its so cheap. And from the revieuws from amazon (I read them all) its better then the led and way cheaper.
Here is more info http://www.infrared-light-therapy.com/infrared-heat-lamp-therapy/ http://natural-alternative-therapies.com/how-to-increase-collagen-production/

You can take turmeric for inflamamation.

One thing I wanted to mention is to consider stopping anything that exfoiliates or Is active .You got to this point where you are smoothed out but if you keep using thr actives you may tip over and thin your skin out . I've made this mistake and it's very difficult to come back from. Something to think about . But would love to know your entire regimen

I think you need to stop focusing on the outside of you body and start healing it from within mind, body & soul. Know that the body can regenerate itself and heal itself if you nourish it both physically and emotionally. I believe it starts with eating healthy and taking supplements to support healing. Also try to stay positive.

You're right , we can't do anything to the outside , only the inside . I just wish I knew for sure there was hope , loss of hope is something humans can't do well with . I've started supplements but emotionally doing poorly

I would want someone to tell me and sorry if it contradicts another person's experience , but be very careful with the b5. I used it and the results were an ER visit . HA is still an acid , if you hsve thick and leathery skin I guess it may help , to a point , but if you're fragile and sensitive and have issues post laser , be very careful .im on the do nothing plan and it's working . Thr wrinkled that started by my Brow stopped and now not as deep . The red valleys between my jigsaw texture she gave me, have normal skin in there , not the same height yet, but there is skin. I saw a really good derm , she is queen of Manhattan and she told me very clearly , do nothing and it's working . I have not so much as washed my face in 10 days . Anyeays , be careful
With products , many keep progressing bevaude they keep putting products on . I strongly belirve you should never use actives again but everyone is going to make their own decision . For 7 weeks straight I declined by the day , after the do notjinb program , my oil glands kicked in 3 days ago and there has been rapid progress. Not saying I look great , I'm saying it was truly awful but there is an obvious change, the only thing that can help us now is the Skin's own repair process , don't disturb it. And I always took good supplements and eat very healthy , been juicing for 15 years etc. What I added after the disaster is flax seed oil and zinc and my acupuncturist taught me how to make real collagen so I'm cooking a pot a week and eating some daily .

Oh, I stopped looking at my face , used the bathroom in the dark , I looked today and it's clearly about 20% better , long road but I think in another week I can go out in public .

Hey how are you doing?? I'm so glad to see this all of your other posts were so down.