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Advice before breast fat transfer

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Advice before breast fat transfer

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I’ve tried to give important advice below simply to help you amazing ladies, it’s not to squash Dr B. He is nice. :) It’s just to help patients make their own mind up and to provide them with realistic expectations. Skim read as you need, and don’t hesitate to ask any questions - I’m more than happy to help you :)
Safety advice:-They use a Nurse anaesthetist, not a Doctor Anaesthesiologist (like most other clinics do). I was quite frightened to have found that out on the day of surgery. This was not specifically pointed out to me when I booked. I can’t believe I went ahead anyway. Looking back at the paper work fine print it does say “Anaesthetist or Anaesthesiologist” so my bad; however, in my opinion, this is too subtle a way of getting a patient to agree to NOT having an Anaesthesiologist present. Most people expect an Anaesthesiologist so please request a Doctor Anaesthesiologist. I know nurses are skilled, especially the nurses at Dr B’s clinic. However, there is a reason why an anaesthesiologist’s training is 15+ years- because the side effects are permanent neurological damage.Boobs advice:-I ended up with palpable grape sized breast lumps. And about half of Dr B’s reviewers say they have lumps in at least one of their breasts (so sorry to hear that ladies - feel free to put your lumps advice in the comments). I have read other Doctors write that this due to over filling the breasts. Other Doctors who do NOT over fill do NOT seem to have as many reviewers talking about lumps. And in hindsight, lumps could be dangerous because later if you get an unrelated breast cancer lump you might feel it and just think “oh it’s just my fat transfer lumps”, and miss a lump that could have otherwise been detected. I’m not saying “don’t go with Dr B”, I’m just saying that you should decide whether you prefer over filling and higher chance of lumps, or a moderate fat filling and less chance of lumps. :)Advice on forming realistic expectations of fat retention:-You’re more than likely only going to get half to 1 cup size increase per surgery. This is what I got. 1 cup size from fat transfer is a wayyyy more subtle look than 1 cup size increase with breast implants. Those that got a 2+ cup size increase have either gained weight AFTER surgery, are not 4-5 months post op or have had 2 rounds. You can see the weight gain on some of their stomachs if you compare the pre surgery to post surgery photos (which does look nice!). Also, read their comments sections because some of them do mention that they gained weight post op (thank you for your honesty ladies - you look great :) ), but this increased beast size will not be maintainable if they resume their normal weight.80%+ of Dr B’s RealSelf reviewers are NOT 4-5 months post op so their breasts are bigger than what they can maintain. The reason you should sometimes consider 4-5 months post op as the final size, and not always 3 months, is because there are exercise restrictions for 3 months (see attached photo) which means most people put on a little weight during the first 3 months and then go back to their normal exercise routine during months 4 and 5, and therefore go back to their normal weight and lesser breast size. A few lbs weight gain/ loss can change the breast size even in women who do not have fat transfer. Also, regarding those reviewers who post at 1 month and then disappear lol (y’all feel me?) you are still swollen at 1 month, and my breast size dropped a lot after this, even though I maintained my weight. Everyone is different though, so you might fluke it and get an increase of 2+ cup sizes like some women have, but there aren’t that many reviews saying that they got an increase of 2+ cups WITHOUT weight gain AND who are 5+ months out.Lipo advice:-Keep your hips/ outer thighs! Do not lipo here! Hips/outer thighs are so beautiful, but Dr B seems to be taking fat from there all the time, on so many women. If this is what you personally want, then absolutely go for Dr B :), but he told me during the consult that he would be taking fat from my stomach, lower back and my inner thighs, but then on the day he said that we are now going to be taking from the hips/outer thighs, and NOT the stomach. Several other women in his reviews have said this happened to them too. (I had NOT lost weight between the consult and surgery and I have visible stubborn stomach fat that I can never shake. You can grab it easily.)Now, after the outer thigh / hip lipo, I have very slim hips/outer thighs which is accentuating my stomach fat (which was not lipo’d). And now I have lipo lumps on my thighs when I never even wanted outer thigh lipo to begin with lol. I was happy to get inner thigh lipo, but he didn’t really touch the upper part of my inner thighs - he only touched the lower part of my inner thighs so now I have the illusion of LESS of an inner thigh “gap” than before. So overall, my body got worse for the sake of half to 1 bra cup size increase. My body is NOT botched - it looks ok :) but it just looks like I have a man’s body now, whereas before I was more feminine. I’m not trying to disrespect him as he is good but he does say he is a sculptor so yeah.He says that he had to lipo my hips/outer thighs (instead of my stomach) because even though I do have stomach fat, all women have the most stubborn fat on their outer thighs. However, this doesn’t make sense. Most women I know carry stubborn fat on their stomach and mid section. So, given this, I don’t know why he is avoiding stomach lipo on so many patients lol. None of the other good fat transfer Doctors seem to avoid stomach lipo.For those that did have stomach lipo with Dr B, they all said that they didn’t get a snatched waist anyway. No Dr B patient on here has said they got one. None of Dr B’s before and after photos have one. To be fair, he never claims to do this either. So my advice is that if you want a flat stomach to accentuate your breast size, then perhaps look for a fat transfer Doctor who offers that. :-) However, if you’re not bothered with your waist NOT being snatched, then maybe Dr B is still a good choice for you. :)Advice if you’re undecided about getting breast fat transfer:-In my opinion, if you already have a nice B cup then just leave things alone because it’s not worth the risk of lipo irregularities palpable breast lumps, symmetrical visible scars and the money. However, in my opinion, it probably is worth it if you have deformed breasts from implant removal or significantly asymmetrical breasts naturally and you want fat transfer mostly on one side.If you are going to get it, I would 110% ABSOLUTELY wait until corona is over because if you get corona during recovery, you might not be able to eat properly for a few weeks (if in hospital or have the flu) and your transferred fat may not survive. This is different to loosing weight, say, years after the surgery - as your cells have already survived by then and so when you regain weight you'll regain breast. Untrue for immediate post op period.Advice on whether to go with Dr B:-This is your choice, and yours only - this is just my opinion. Dr B is a great choice if you live in the Carolinas! But 1 cup increase withOUT a feminine physique or snatched liposuction result, and more chance of lumps than Doctors who don't over fill breasts, is probably not worth flying in for and paying for accommodation. Doctors in other cities all seem to be creating the feminine physique and giving snatched lipo at the same time as transferring fat to the breast or butt, with few cases of large lumps.There a several fat transfer Doctors in LA if you’re on the west coast; NYC/ Atlanta if you’re North; Texas/ Florida if you’re south; Spain if you’re European; Sydney if you’re Australian/ New Zealand; Seoul if you’re in Asia; and several in Mexico if you’re south.I really hope I was able to help you form a realistic view of what this surgery is, and whether to get it :), because at the moment these reviews are mainly all from women who are only a few weeks out, and so the swelling has not gone down to reveal their lipo lumps, breast lumps, or real breast size.

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I meant to also say above that if, mental health wise, you can’t go without the exercises in the photo for 3 months then fat transfer isn’t for you, as it has one of the longest recoveries of all plastic surgeries. My anxiety skyrocketed without yoga, running and legitimate sized weight lifting for 3 months. I got through though :) I will put photos of me up after I have stopped crying over my new manly looking physique that has lost all its feminine qualities and gained lumps. I’m a baby and I know it’s just a first world problem so I should be over it in a few months and be able to help y’all out with pics then. Last thing (I swear lol), is that fat transfer is NOT a “complication-free” version of breast implants. Fat transfer has just as many possible complications, they’re just different.
There's new technology to have a full 3D breast scan in which there isn't mashing or squishing of the breasts, just saying. I like is doctor but wow is he overpriced. He did pioneer fat transfer to the breasts but that was over 20 years ago and there are surgeons performing this same procedure for $3,000-$6,000 and include the pre op testing and breast scans and post op. I was going to have surgery with him but I'm glad I waited. He charges $12,000!
Thanks for the breast scan tip, Makeitmakeit :-)
Who's doing the same procedure for $3,000-$6,000 usd?
I think MakeitMakeit means overseas :)
Can you suggest Breast Fat Transfer doctors in California? I would like to look into them. Thank you
Dr. Trussler in Austin, TX did an excellent job on my lipo and breast fat transfer. I'm only 6 weeks but will be posting a review when it's all said and done.
I'd love to see or hear about your journey with him as I've been considering the same.
Mine was done in Seattle for $8,000 included all pre and post op procedures/office visits and two garments. It was pretty amazing.
Who did you go to in Seattle?
Mats Hagstrom
You are not a baby for being upset over the loss of a feminine physique. You should be.
This review is THE most HELPFUL and REAL thing on RealSelf. THANK YOU! . A lot of the breast fat transfer reviewers continue replying to comments after 3-6 months but stop posting photos around 1-2 months. Maybe they don't continue to add photos after then because they're sad or embarrassed about their breast size loss? I really feel for them all. Ladies, be proud to come back in 6 months and post photos of the truth! And, for the ones who are 3-6+ months with big results, you're right, most have gained weight post op.... You really do have inspect the photos and comments, like you say. They do look great with weight gain, but I know I couldn't gain and maintain if I tried. All that food would make me feel sick and lethargic, not to mention the health risks. And YES there are just as many problems with fat transfer as breast implants. No idea why I never looked at it like that! Thank youuuuu
True.. Thanks for replying:) Post your realistic results ladies, please! You are beautiful :) I think a potential reason that some patients may not have courage to continue posting photos after their swelling has gone down (despite still being active on RealSelf at 3-12 months), or may not have the courage to mention that their post op weight gain was the main contributor to breast size increase, is because once a few people post unrealistic breast fat transfer results (I.e photos with mostly just swelling/ post op weight gain), it starts a whole wave of people wanting that. So then more people post photos saying that they have also achieved that, when most really know it's just swelling (since Dr Bednar CLEARLY states the breasts decrease in size until 3-4 months). Anyway, then those with realistic results (I.e half to 1 cup increase, 3-6 months post, withOUT post op weight gain) are too shy, heartbroken and embarrassed to post our realistic half to 1 cup size increase, right next to these women who have allegedly "gained 2+ cups". And likewise, women who posted "2+ cup gain" pics at 3 weeks post op may feel too foolish to come back at 5 months to admit that it was only actually half a cup. (You're beautiful ladies - speak up!) This is a serious issue because now women are booking surgery without a realistic idea of possible results, totally unaware that Dr B (or whoever) has given all these patients half to 1 cup size increase, and that it's just the weight gain that has contributed to further cup size increase. And then when they, like you and me, don't want to experience the health risks of post op / long term weight gain, like others are willing to do, it leaves us heart broken to have jumped into surgery under the false illusion of unrealistic reviews. Xxx
I see quite a number of updates that are over a year out, quite a few so I believe this is inaccurate.
This is such good/necessary information! It really sheds an honest light on this procedure and what should be considered beforehand. Thank you!!
You're welcome kmeyre222 :) So glad I helped you!
This is excellent advice and is in line with my own experience having had 3 breast fat transfers (NOT with Dr. Bednar). After my 1st fat transfer I thought my size was final after 3 months. At that point I had my 2nd breast fat transfer. That time I weighted 1 full year before I had my 3rd transfer and I would say after 4.5 months my result was final. Now I'm 3 months post op from my final surgery and given my previous experiences, it is very clear that even after 3 months there is still a lot of swelling i.e. final result still not achieved. And yes, I think weight gain does have a great effect in size. My doctor is very experienced and I only received about 250cc per operation/breast and I have no lumps, but even then there are certain things such a doctor can't control/explain. For instance I started of with tiny, but equal sized breastss (AA), which initally receivedt the exact same volume. But for some reason my right breast just didn't take on as much fat as the left, i.e. turned out smaller. During my 2nd and 3rd surgery, that smaller breast each time received more fat then the 3rd and it is STILL smaller. So even with the best technique there is a level of unpredictability. I would say, not counting my weight gain, I gained more than 1/2 cup size, but less than 1 full cup size per surgery. Also, you comments about the type of figure he sculpts confirms the impression I always had when looking at his reviews. I think if someone already has that kind of athletic figure or wants to achieve that look , he'd be a good option. But I also much prefer more curves. I guess the reason why he prefers to use thigh fat and hips...it's much easier to achieve a good result there. I've been told by two surgeons it's much harder to achieve a smooth liposuction result with the tummy because the skin is so much thinner/more delicate there.
Anska_5, you're totally right with the unpredictability! And yeah, I definitely prefer curves at the hips too :)
Thank you for the comment. Can I ask what breast size you are now after the three surgeries?
Lol Alaadoug, love how you're thanking people for their comment, even though it's my thread hahah you're hilarious
Anska_5, sorry to hear about your right breast not taking as much as the left. Mine was the same and now I'm forced to get round two when I don't really want another round of lipo. :/ Thanks for sharing X
I actually meant to thank you, but I wasn't sure what to press. I think I sent you another comment but I don't if it reached you or if it was sent as a comment to the last person who wrote something on the thread. I still also wanted to know what one could get after three FT though! Sign... I really wanted to do this surgery and have perfect results. To be realistic is better though.
well, I gave you a detailed answer about how much I gained after 3 breast fat transfers and under what circumstances. No one will be able to tell you in definites how much you will gain after 3 breast fat transfers. You can only collect experiences and then draw your own conclusions what the likely range is.
Anska_5, do you have to pay full price for each of the fat transfers? I know this can differ between surgeons, but I'm curious what your experience has been. Or were the 2nd and 3rd transfers less expensive than the first?
You're welcome, Alaadoug :) Yeah better to have realistic expectations for sure :)
@spearson4411
I only paid full price for the first surgery, the other two were about half price and for all three I paid less than one surgery with Bednar. Otherwise I would have never been able to afford three surgeries.
anska_5, thanks so much for responding. I see from your other comment that you're not in the US. Unfortunately its very expensive here! But I think you make a good point, I think the best results come from multiple smaller transfers rather than one big transfer.
Hopeful1982, I had the same problem where my right breast is a lot smaller. Did you get round 2 yet?
It's difficult to give an answer to that because as I mentioned I'm at 3 months and there's definitely still swelling. Plus I still weigh 4-5kg more than what I started off with before all surgeries. It also depends on the bra style/brand. I havent shopped for any new bras yet (did that too early the last couple of times), but the one before in 36B is too tight now. So we'll see. What gives maybe a better comparison: Before all surgeries when I was a 75AA I had an underbust circumference of 78cm and a bust circumference of 84cm...so basically flat. Now after the 3rd my underbust circumference is 80cm and my bust measures 97cm. But as I said, you can't just forget that the additional weight will have added some centimeters as well. One thing is certain, if you take fat from areas of your body where you found it most difficult to loose weight...that's the fat that will probably give you the most gain breast wise. I gained the most volume/circumference after my 1st surgery because the fat was taken from my outer thighs, that I could never slim down, even when I was a teenager. I gained the least volume and circumference (only 2cm) with my last surgery when the doctor took from my waist.
Shouldnt have mixed European and UK/US sizes. So 75AA, is a 34AA and the 36B mentioned is a 80B