Babyjoe
Joined: 22 Dec 2008
Activity: 36 posts
Activity: 36 posts
| 2 | reviews |
| 1 | discussion |
| 21 | comments |
| 12 | questions |
Treatment reviews
Questions from Babyjoe
- Deep Orbital Sub-q Restylane for Under Eye Hollowness?
- How to Fix Redness After Lower Eyelid Surgery?
- Will IPL Help with Dry Eyes After Eyelid Surgery?
- How to Improve Skin Elasticity of Under Eyelids?
- Best Way to Add Fat After Aggressive Lower Blepharoplasty?
- Surgical Correction of Puffy Eyes After Pearl Fat Grafting?
- Options for Reducing Under Eye Puffiness from Pearl Fat Grafting?
- What's the Difference Between Pearl Fat Grafting and Fat Grafting?
- How Many Times Can Lower Blepharoplasty Be Done?
- Is It Possible to Put Back Fat After Lower Blepharoplasty?
- Post-blepharoplasty Skin Tightening?
- Puffy and Hyperpigmented Under Eye Area After Pearl Fat Grafting
Discussions started by Babyjoe
Comments by Babyjoe
| Thread | Last Comment | Comments |
|---|---|---|
| Fat transfer: Bad fat overfill - ongoing review | 7 months ago | 2 |
| Fat transfer: Pearl Fat Grafting - California | 22 months ago | 3 |
| Incredible Results from Hyaluronidase Injections | 23 months ago | 2 |
| Eyelid Surgery: Lower Eye Lid Complication (Need Any Advice) | 24 months ago | 2 |
| Restylane Put Under Both Eyes to Blend in Upper Cheeks. Later Had It Dissolved with Hyaluronidase, Which Left Indents | 24 months ago | 3 |
| Eyelid Surgery: Unhappiness After Blepharoplasty | 24 months ago | 1 |
| Eyelid Surgery: Bad Blepharoplasty Leads to Depression | 31 months ago | 4 |
| Fat transfer: Lump after fat tranfer | 34 months ago | 1 |
Recent comments by Babyjoe
Glad to help. Your concerns are well founded. I have to say there's just too much marketing hype of FG. The "stem cell effect" as an example. Sure didn't see it in my case. My skins worse! I will say that some get great results if the doc knows what their doing though and does it very conservatively in the right areas. Too many are just greedy no talent knuckleheads though doing it on people/areas that they shouldn't.
Yup I'm lucky for sure. LOL Seriously, glad at least most of the fat is gone anyways. Trust me when I say it was just... aweful. I couldn't smile without looking like a fat faced clown with sunken in eyes and a big mouthful of nuts. Grafted fat just doesn't behave the way normal fat does. When you smile it's separate from the muscle instead of integrating itself. Everyone that I know of that got FG to their cheeks speaks of this. It looks good unless your smiling. Again, certain areas on your face just beware.
I beleive about 25 to 30 cc's total to my upper and outer cheeks done over 2 treatments. I went to a Doctor in LA reputed on the boards to be the Doc that gets it to last best. Yeah, thankfully they were wrong with that too. Plus, this is the same doc that would refer himself as an artist every friggen time I consulted with him. If he meant BS artist I have to say I'm in 100% agreement. As far as the layer goes I remember hearing/feeling the scraping along the cheekbone with that damn canula. So it was on the top and outer part of the cheekbones and along the orbital rims.
The electric cautery is kind of like the acculift laser you brought up. Instead of a laser their using a needle. He goes in about 1/4 inch and like acculift it's suppose to be more precise with less trauma. It basically melts the fat and then it's suctioned up with a canula. Sorry your right. It's Dr. Frileck that she used. She now complains of having some minimul wrinkles on her skin after the electric cautery. Dr Frileck said it would tighten up over time though. I havn't talked to her since febuary though so hopefully it did.
Speaking of acculift. A guy by the name of Brett who posted on the Miss J board got over done by Dr Coleman and his FG. Allot of fat grafted all over his face and it stuck. He did the microlipo at first and then the acculift laser to remove the rest of the fat graft from around his eyes with great success though.
What I did at first was bring my weight down with just exersize. It helped for sure. Maybe just temporary though so not exactly sure. No skin treatments though and just a few 5fu's to try to fix. I've heard bad things about that though so I stopped. Everyone (3 people) that I know of that took that route reported certain side effects. Skin discoloration/thinning and denting of areas. At the end of the day I'm glad I did nothing else. I was told by my doc that the next step would be microlipo. However, I worried too much about that. I mean how does it know the difference between normal and grafted fat? This is just blindly sticking a canula in there and scraping/sucking out the fat afterall. This is just my opinion though.
Unless you went off the deep end and did a whole series of FG or allot then I think your alright to just to try the low key methods you talked about and nothing else for now. It gives you something to do and hope for in the meantime. Hopefully your skin will bounce back. Plus, grafted fat is almost impossible to get to stick in the lower parts of the face like the NL lines from the people I've talked to that got it there. The best place is the upper cheeks because it's more stable on top of bone and has allot less movement.
Some things time can't help. Other things nothing but time can help. This might be one of them.
Just be careful on doing any removal. I was overfilled and basically effed up with FG done by a doc in LA who like yours didn't listen. I did 2 FG sessions. I looked very unnatural with big overstuffed cheeks that were very asymetric. Plus, it deeply hollowed my eyes.
I tried the 5fu a little. I think the important thing with me was just time. It really started to absorb after about a year. Most of it is gone now at 2 years out thankfully. However, it did some damage to my face. Most notably visible canula tracks and loss of natural volume in the area grafted. Plus, the skin isn't as taught. Stuff you won't experience unless the FG goes away.
I know some here have done the micro lipo (goodfacegonebad) with some success. My concern is the mechanical process of removal with a canula could cause other problems. Especially under the eyes where everything is delicate. Irregularities under the skin basically. Problems you might see in certain mirrors. Of coarse this is just my opinion.
I've talked to someone else who did the whole gamut of trying to remove a previous FG. She did the 5fu at first with Dr Hoenig. The 5fu had side effects though. Then she tried the microlipo twice. It mostly worked but you can't use it around the eye area though. Plus, it has down time like any surgery. So recently she opted for a technique of electric cautery from Dr Frederik also in Los Angeles. She said it was definitely the biggest difference with just a single treatment. Plus, she said it had allot less down time.