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Hi Worried101, do you happen to live in NYC? I too have a botched eyeliner and also eyebrows, so thought we could put our heads together if you wish to meet..?.

Thanks very much, now I understand thoroughly. I'm sure now I better not invite problems to my already problematic lips... What a shame! :o(

No need to apologize curious, I appreciate reading all - the good and the bad - as it's important for us to know EVERYTHING for, if you didn't caution us with these details, we'd go have it done and suffer for the rest of our lives, witness the majority of women in RealSelf.... I know bleeding is a reality because the person who did my eyeliner gave me 4 anesthesia injections and there's an ink smudge on the 4 points where her needle entered. Hence, I've been so hesitant to have my lips done, especially due to my wrinkles around the lips which would facilitate the ink migration into those little vertical lines, just as the lipstick does it on me (which of course I no longer wear). What a shame isn't it? :o) Thanks again for opening my eyes.

Jeffery, I forgot to tell you that at least one of the reasons you exposed as being the culprit for migrating or bleeding makes sense. So one must be so careful to remind the perm operator NOT to put in too much ink to avoid clogging up the skin which will then may, so to speak, "bounce" out. And at the same time to see to it that the operator puts enough ink to last properly and to make them even...Correct? Because my botched eyeliner probably didn't have enough ink on just one lower line and now it looks awful and defeating my reason for the perm as I have to retouch it with a pencil...Thanks again.

Hello Jeffery, interesting what you explain, which reminds me to ask you one more thing. I contacted a "semi" permanent makeup person hoping I could try it out first, then have a better idea whether the permanent makeup would be good or not on me... but was surprised her answer to my question was IT IS under the skin. I asked, how can it be "semi" perm if it's under the skin? She said because it goes only under the dermis, i.e.; under the superficial skin. Well, even if it's considered "semi", once it's UNDER ANY of our skins is going to be problematic to erase completely. What's your opinion? Thanks.