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Thin Lips? No Thank You.

It is rather confusing to me as the new Medically trained woman is going by what the other one wrote down and her records said I had 6 matrix and 3 skin tightening and some were combined and sometimes alone so I really don't know for sure. I was basically going by what I saw on a video on REFIRM... the original plan was to build up the collegen with six treatments which would then give me better results from some filler either Juvaderm or I think it's radiense...

Meanwhile, after I started that, I found the woman who does these microcurrent tx and the results are dramatic from her personal before/after pictures. I didn't want to start that without finishing this first.

I don't see any place in the middle of these threads to upload pictures but I found a place here called 'REVIEWS" of Matrix and that's where I will share them after I get the last Matrix; (I could leave a note here) however, I'm not waiting another six months as the jowls, fat pads or whatever they are are still there and it is really bothering me and like you said, this tx isn't going to fix that.

I'm not getting any younger so I'm not waiting another six months for the subtle change I have yet to see on myself or anyone else on this website; as soon as I get the last Matrix tx and per BOTH estheticians recommendations as well, I'm going to Josephine Ramos to get six micocurrent she combines with some peels geared to your skin. I was really impressed with the one treatment I had with her; most of all, her personal before/after pictures are dramatic but both she and the new Matrix esthetician say to finish the Matrix before doing that as it creates a better platform to get best results. Hope that is clear.

This is how it is described: " the “non-surgical face lift” this treatment uses micro electric stimulation to tone the underlying muscles of your face, increasing circulation and releasing collagen to lift and sculpt your features in a way that takes years off you appearance. Totally relaxing and painless."

Forgot to mention, it is also VERY PAINFUL even with numbing creme. I have had 5 to 7 treatments and sometimes it was called "skin tightening" and/or matrix from $75 to $150...last was level 55 with 195 passes and if there is a result, it is very very subtle and from reading various comments on Matrix, it seems that it takes six months to really see result which I'm told is building of collegen below the surface.

I would never see this being worth $2000 and it is also VERY PAINFUL when getting it even with numbing creme. I have had 5 to 7 treatments and sometimes it was called "skin tightening" and/or matrix from $75 to $150...last was level 55 with 195 passes and if there is a result, it is very very subtle and from reading various comments on Matrix, it seems that it takes six months to really see result which I'm told is building of collegen below the surface. I didn't have any redness or marks after any treatment.

GFGB, Sorry to not get back here sooner but I couldn't find the page so much e-mail piles up. At first I thought there was some immediate improvement but then I think it was just my face was a little swollen so it looked like these fat pads, and fine wrinkles were smoothed out. Now I'm not sure there is any immediate change and there is no marks or redness whatsoever. She said it is the MATRIX treatment but they go by a number system; not ABC. I think she said she did it at 55 with 195 passes but I have to find those notes to be sure if that means anything to you. Someone on another page here offered to crop my pictures so when I get that together, can I just post them here or do i have to start a new subject? I will share after the next tx in three weeks. Clearly this treatment is something that is to build collegen below the skin and takes time to see any change which I expect to be pretty subtle; by then as I said, I'm going to get this microcurrent tx I saw her before/after pictures and that is something I have more hope for seeing a change.

I thought this explanation about Matrix being "frequency" not laser tx by dermatologist was helpful and clearly she's saying it takes six months I ASSUME after final treatment to see the results and then I assume this collegen build up is long lasting like any collegen in our body?
http://www.realself.com/question/ematrix-compare-fraxel-laser
How Does EMatrix Compare to Fraxel Laser?
eMatrix also uses focused fractional energy but it is Radio Frequency energy, not laser. The thermal response is not confined to a column as laser is - it tends to spread out more broadly beneath the top layer of the skin, so you get the collagen response without a direct corresponding level of external damage to the skin.

The company has termed the effect as "sublative" in that much more is going on than you actually see....somewhat like a pyramid shape as the heat energy fans out after it penetrates the skin. For the most part, RF energy doesn't stir up melanin production so it's seen as a more desirable treatment for some skin types.

Collagen response continues after the superheating from either system for about 6 months at which time what you see is the final response.

As far as stopping the signs of aging, we continue to age no matter what process we apply to our skin, and collagen breakdown will continue as before - With Fraxel or eMatrix you just got a push back in time with the new elastin and collagen fibers your body created as a result of the heat energy.

Web reference: Http://rebeccafitzgeraldmd.com/ematrix.html