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2nd Ultherapy Treatment - Bay Area, CA

The same things keep getting said over and over that don't seem to add to the discussion. I'm not flaming the folks who would just like some online mental support and who are reaching out for that, or folks like Della80 who have legit questions, but others who haven't read anything on here and straight up complaining about conditions induced by not using the stuff properly. The issue isn't whether or not your skin is damaged, but whether you used the reputable product or some other thing and also did you use it properly and did you get the right strength and preparation. Folks, enough people have posted on here to inform everyone of EXACTLY how to use Retin A, what the different strengths are about, AND the different preparations, ie, gels versus creams of the same brand. Just begin reading this thread from the top. Are people doing this? If you have PROPERLY tried it the way SEVERAL have outlined on here and still experience probs, sure post. But really, if you use the simple ingredient, tretinoin, then you just have to be patient most of the time and go VERY SLOW, address complications efficiently as they occur, and use the lowest percentage first and DON'T get the gel. Bear in mind, that practically every medical ointment or medicine that is prescription is not appropriate for a segment of the population. This is not a surprise. That's why, for example, they ask you on a simple new patient sheet in a doc's office, just what meds you have a reaction to. That's why the risks are ALWAYS listed when you get your prescription filled - that sheet of paper that comes with the med, no matter where you buy it. It happens. Nothing works for everyone. I just feel as if a dead horse is being flogged on here and that several people are not paying attention to what was already posted multiple times by multiple people.

ps: meant to say, that I've never heard of specifically, pigmentation issues with LED devices - any of them. I have read that some folks have issues with recovery from use and drying, etc., just not pigmentation. The other thing to remember is that whatever you get for home use will just not be as strong as a dr. office, so if anything, there are quite a number of people who see no results at all. Btw, I just spoke to a woman who sold her Quasar MD on ebay. I asked her why she was selling, since that's the strongest of the Quasars. Didn't she see results? She said, that though yes, she did, she wasn't committed to keeping up the frequent treatment that you needed to do. That tells me, she couldn't have really seen much of anything. You can check in ebay completed listings, as I assume she did sell her device to SOMEone lol. I see loads of people using the Sirius Aurora. Anyway, I'd like to get one, but I'm still not decided on which one. LED light, btw, is being shown to be very useful for several things - more and more - look up the research on Alzheimer's and LED - fascinating!

Metaphorica, Can you provide info on specifically where you saw someone had worsening pigmentation from LED? I, myself (a former scientist - so I am used to researching), have not found anything like that at all and I've spent over a year diligently reading everything and calling all the companies (by the way, the folks at Quasar sound like idiots - sorry, it's the truth - they gave me a pack of wrong information on all three occasions I called them - including wrong information on their OWN products - geez - refused to transfer me to anyone other than an obvious sales layperson - called them three times total over a period of six months). The only things I see people say in their LED reviews on multiple sites is that there is either an improvement or that there is no effect at all. I am wondering if you saw someone reviewing, perhaps, a laser, and mistaking it for LED. I find that happens a LOT. And folks frequently DO have probs with the home lasers. I've read plenty of probs with Palo Via, for example. I'm waiting for the Philips ReAura to come to this country - that's a 2nd generation - laser - device - supposed to outdo the Palo Via in a number of ways. In any event, would like to read what you read about anyone experiencing pigmentation probs with LED. LED is used regularly on folks with darker skin, precisely because laser (not LED) can cause pigmentation issues. Again, many many people who review products get lasers and LEDs mixed up and review a laser as LED and vice versa. So, that is something of which to be aware. Thanks!

Wow Jane D. First off, who ARE you? Second, lay off of Melsh. Are you a physician?? And there was absolutely NOTHING wrong with Melsh' review. That is what this board is for! Not to be attacked if we dare to review. Btw, why haven't you posted on all the other reviews about Affirm that are like Melsh'. This isn't an isolated experience. I believe it is up to the readers to be discriminating and they can make up their mind as to whether they think Affirm did this or if it was the operator or what. This was a useful review to me and I am well aware of ALL the many many variables that must be factored into this. However, look at the satisfaction rate here overall and look at ALL the reviews. We consider the odds of getting good results. If most operators are apparently not skilled in the use of this equipment, then it is not the best idea to go expose yourself to a potentially negatively life-altering experience. If more operators such as yourself were accessible, then maybe there would be more positive reviews. But apparently, in this RealSelf sampling, there aren't. I'm in California, for example. You're too far away from me. So, though, as you reasonably state, the equipment may be good, if there are not enough skilled operators around or if it is that difficult for operators to get good results, then NO, people should not take a chance - there are TOO TOO many other procedures out there that are a little safer overall. Just don't harass someone, especially someone who is going through hell like Melsh. Geez. By the way, there's lots of controversy on the taking of supplements and also juicing. Some of the folks against that include, just for example, Dr. David Agus - Steve Jobs and Lance Armstrong's and Ted Kennedy's oncologist. Basically, they are not trivial opinions. Might be good to research that.

No problem :) . Hope it helps. By the way, I found her CV link - wow, it's still unbelievable, how one person could do so much in one lifetime. Hope I'm allowed to post this link.
http://doctorbase.com/static/assets/E7/E765D4E0-ABF2-11DF-B6B9-FA3BB821830B.pdf