Hi everyone. I've been injecting undereye areas for many years now and have never had anyone develop cysts in the skin. If your aesthetician has worked in the Ukraine during the 1990s it is possible that the treatments were not done with hyaluronic acid products. Restylane was only commercially released in the late 1990s, Juvederm in the early noughties (I think). In the 1990s collagen and Dermalive and a whole stack of now-banned fillers were commonly used. Fillers like Artecoll and Dermalive have caused thousands of complications/ eg granulomas back in the 1990s.
If you are in your 20s think carefully about your treatment options. Hyaluronic acid products are only temporary but that means they have a greater safety margin than so many of the older products. We have a little saying in the field of Cosmetic Medicine: Permanent fillers= permanent problems. Not in every case, granted, but do you want to risk it at all when you're only 20 or 30yo? I definitely wouldn't! Safety should always be the first consideration, regardless of the cosmetic problem.
Oh, and fat transfer is a waste of time since most (70%) of it dies within 3 months, and there is a huge risk that the remaining 30% will take better on one side than the other..meaning that every time you gain or lose weight, your face will (asymmetrically) as well!
It's really fascinating hearing about everyone's experiences around the world! I love this site!!
So concerned for those of you who have had a bad experience..I wonder what the important lessons are for those others reading these posts who are still doing background research before committing to treatment?
For me, as both a consumer and service provider, the important things are about having really strong communication with your doctor, and that includes being able to trust his/her expertise, as well as report any concerns before, during and after the treatment, preferably as soon as you have a concern, you should raise it. Don't wait!
If you are worried about something, you probably have good reason to be..or at least the doctor should be able to reassure you in an educated, but not patronising, way.
It takes a long time to get a really good understanding of any one laser machine..at least 6months, probably longer for some lasers, depends on many factors.
Ask your doctor how long they've been using the machine, how many clients per week they treat with it, how many refunds they've given, or unhappy/burnt clients they've had. Also, and I think this is a really really important point, have they had any post-graduate training in dermatology? This could be in the form of a Diploma, Certificate, or preceptorship programme attached to a dermatologist. Unfortunately though, not all medical dermatologists really understand cosmetic dermatology and vice versa.
The best recommendation, in this as in so many other aspects of life, is usually word of mouth!
That is how you will find GOLD!! And how you will avoid having the problems described on here.
Good luck and great skin everyone!
I am a cosmetic physician based in Melbourne who has used the Cutera system in my practice for over 6 yrs now, without any significant problems whatsoever!! This includes Limelight, Genesis, PEARL, Coolglide (I don't have the Titan or PEARL fractional).
I've treated thousands of people over the years without any of the terrible outcomes reported here...perhaps it wasn't the equipment but the user/settings/pre and post care that were the problem.
Laser treatments should only be done by trained and experienced medical practitioners, not laser "technicians" or "aestheticians"....and even then, not all medical practitioners understand skin enough to know how to recognise a high risk skin type or what to do with sensitive, irritated skin or even congested skin.
The specialty of cosmetic medicine is still evolving and the level of training appears to vary greatly in all countries around the world.
I hope those of you who have had problems with your laser treatments find someone eventually who understands your problems and is able to help resolve them.
I am a cosmetic physician in Melbourne who has been using Laser Genesis for 6 yrs now.
It is greatly concerning that you have had such a bad experience, but it really is not the fault of the machine, rather the user and possibly the management of your skincare pre and post treatment.
Please do not bag this equipment! It has helped thousands of people very successfully around the world, and in my practice in Melbourne.
Just an update to let you all know that with the arrival of blunt ended micro-cannulas, the 2nd stage of this treatment is now being done primarily with a combo of Esthelis Soft, injected with a micro-cannula. Just one prick per cheek!!
Micro-cannulas are far less traumatic to the delicate under eye skin, and can be used safely to treat hollows without the risk of bruising..a major deterrant for those who can't risk the downtime of a bruise!!
We are loving the micro-cannulas so much that we're also using them for the injection of other fillers in the lips, and they are absolutely wonderful for Sculptra treatments to the lower face and temples..another product usually prone to cause bruising.
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Posted to Under Eye Hollows/tear Trough Treated with Fillers on 28 Jun 2012
Hi everyone. I've been injecting undereye areas for many years now and have never had anyone develop cysts in the skin. If your aesthetician has worked in the Ukraine during the 1990s it is possible that the treatments were not done with hyaluronic acid products. Restylane was only commercially released in the late 1990s, Juvederm in the early noughties (I think). In the 1990s collagen and Dermalive and a whole stack of now-banned fillers were commonly used. Fillers like Artecoll and Dermalive have caused thousands of complications/ eg granulomas back in the 1990s.
If you are in your 20s think carefully about your treatment options. Hyaluronic acid products are only temporary but that means they have a greater safety margin than so many of the older products. We have a little saying in the field of Cosmetic Medicine: Permanent fillers= permanent problems. Not in every case, granted, but do you want to risk it at all when you're only 20 or 30yo? I definitely wouldn't! Safety should always be the first consideration, regardless of the cosmetic problem.
Oh, and fat transfer is a waste of time since most (70%) of it dies within 3 months, and there is a huge risk that the remaining 30% will take better on one side than the other..meaning that every time you gain or lose weight, your face will (asymmetrically) as well!
Posted to Regretful - Limelight Laser, Laser Genesis and Chemical Peels for Mild Rosacea on 3 Jun 2011
So concerned for those of you who have had a bad experience..I wonder what the important lessons are for those others reading these posts who are still doing background research before committing to treatment?
For me, as both a consumer and service provider, the important things are about having really strong communication with your doctor, and that includes being able to trust his/her expertise, as well as report any concerns before, during and after the treatment, preferably as soon as you have a concern, you should raise it. Don't wait!
If you are worried about something, you probably have good reason to be..or at least the doctor should be able to reassure you in an educated, but not patronising, way.
It takes a long time to get a really good understanding of any one laser machine..at least 6months, probably longer for some lasers, depends on many factors.
Ask your doctor how long they've been using the machine, how many clients per week they treat with it, how many refunds they've given, or unhappy/burnt clients they've had. Also, and I think this is a really really important point, have they had any post-graduate training in dermatology? This could be in the form of a Diploma, Certificate, or preceptorship programme attached to a dermatologist. Unfortunately though, not all medical dermatologists really understand cosmetic dermatology and vice versa.
The best recommendation, in this as in so many other aspects of life, is usually word of mouth!
That is how you will find GOLD!! And how you will avoid having the problems described on here.
Good luck and great skin everyone!
Posted to Regretful - Limelight Laser, Laser Genesis and Chemical Peels for Mild Rosacea on 29 May 2011
I've treated thousands of people over the years without any of the terrible outcomes reported here...perhaps it wasn't the equipment but the user/settings/pre and post care that were the problem.
Laser treatments should only be done by trained and experienced medical practitioners, not laser "technicians" or "aestheticians"....and even then, not all medical practitioners understand skin enough to know how to recognise a high risk skin type or what to do with sensitive, irritated skin or even congested skin.
The specialty of cosmetic medicine is still evolving and the level of training appears to vary greatly in all countries around the world.
I hope those of you who have had problems with your laser treatments find someone eventually who understands your problems and is able to help resolve them.
Posted to Don't Have Laser Genesis! on 29 May 2011
It is greatly concerning that you have had such a bad experience, but it really is not the fault of the machine, rather the user and possibly the management of your skincare pre and post treatment.
Please do not bag this equipment! It has helped thousands of people very successfully around the world, and in my practice in Melbourne.
Posted to Under Eye Hollows/tear Trough Treated with Fillers on 29 May 2011
Micro-cannulas are far less traumatic to the delicate under eye skin, and can be used safely to treat hollows without the risk of bruising..a major deterrant for those who can't risk the downtime of a bruise!!
We are loving the micro-cannulas so much that we're also using them for the injection of other fillers in the lips, and they are absolutely wonderful for Sculptra treatments to the lower face and temples..another product usually prone to cause bruising.