I went to a cosmetic tattoo artist who has been doing this work for ten years. She was very forthright with me. I had quite a bit of pain when she was scoring the eyebrows for the line, but then when she filled them in I felt nothing because she topically numbed me. I don't numb well, and I don't think I will be able to have my lips done. However, I'd like to have the eyeliner. The eyebrows took two hours, and I have had no pain or swelling. She said they would fade in a week, so for the woman who hates her brows, I'd say wait. They will lighten.