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If You Can Only Afford 2 Treatments.....

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Updated 14 May 2009
Posted 13 May 2009
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Spent: $1,400 in Adelaide

Fraxel stands for Fractional Treatment which means 2 treatments won't do much if anything because you have only treated 20-30% of the total area of your skin. You have to do the 5 treatments a month apart! PLUS it's important to grasp the idea that the improvement is exponential, that is, with 4th and 5th treatments you will really see the difference and it keeps on improving for several months after that. Why? Because it takes that long for your body to make the new collagen stimulated by Fraxel and with each subsequent treatment you are not only improving the quality of your existing collagen, but you keep on making new collagen which every treatment you make over the new collagen it grows and grows. It will be a full year before you will know how much improvement has occurred.

I have had Fraxel personally and seen very pleasing results. At 58 I was really getting baggy around the eyes and that has almost gone now. I have also treated over 2000 patients with Fraxel and have no unhappy patients that have completed their course of 5 treatments.

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Honest about results (26 posts) 14 May 2009
So far I've done 3 treatments and plan on doing a total of 6. Did you ever notice the scars getting worse or new ones appearing?
Dr Michael Molton (19 posts) 25 Jun 2009
never seen new ones and only improvement although I have had one case of mild hypopigmentation as in slightly paler skin. This was in one of my first cases in a patient with severe acne scarring
terry in maine (16 posts) 17 May 2009
Thanks for the entry. It's nice to hear from someone who's both a provider and a patient. And I hadn't heard the fact that the improvement is exponential, which really does make going through the whole course of treatments sound necessary.
Dr Michael Molton (19 posts) 17 May 2009
The other thing I would say is make sure the clinic does a minimum of 8 passes per treatment. The consumables in the procedure is the 'tip' of the device which is limited to the number of passes. I have heard of some clinics only doing like 6 passes to save money on replacement tips.
terry in maine (16 posts) 18 May 2009
Dr. Molton, would the number of passes be limited by how aggressive you want to be, and how well the patient would tolerate the treatment? I wasn't counting the number of passes I received for my last treatment, but whatever she did, I ended up pretty red and swollen this time around. Not sure I'd want it to be worse than this.
Dr Michael Molton (19 posts) 19 May 2009
You know, I had my last treatment at a pretty low setting all round, and it was still as uncomfortable as the more 'aggressive' treatments I have had. In my experience I think it depends on the day, how much sleep you've had, how stressed you are, how hydrated you are....etc etc the samne for redness and swelling. The number of passes only increases the density of the area treated in total, not the fluence of each spot, ie Joules per cm2 if that makes sense. It's more complex than that but it would take a while to explain.
Dr Michael Molton (19 posts) 25 Jun 2009
I stick to 8 but 10 sometimes in severe cases. Sometimes I might choose 10 but only light passes for melasma.
28forever (11 posts) 18 May 2009
I've had three fraxel restore treatments and the doctor wants to wait a few months to see if I like the results. Should I do 2 or three more treatments anyway? Is there a downside to waiting months in between treatments? I also am having the IPL for rosacea once a month. What should I do? I'm 49 large pores is the reason for the fraxel for me. Thanks,Tammy
Dr Michael Molton (19 posts) 19 May 2009
IPL for Roseacea is a different wavelength to the Fraxel so it should be ok so long as the skin doesn't break or blister. Generally I would treat at different times for safety to avoid cumulative effects of too much inflammatory reaction, salthough having said that I quite often combine Thermage and Fraxel soon after each other, like a week. If you leave the Fraxel more than a month you miss the window to keep the inflammatory reaction going which is making your new collagen. Don't interrupt the treatment for this loing if you can avoid it. You won't lose all the impetus but you won't maximise it either.
Dr Michael Molton (19 posts) 25 Jun 2009
I would rely on your doctor's advice as he is the one seeing the changes and may have different protocols from myself. He may be wanting to treat the rosacea specifically right with a wavelength of light in the yellow range instead of the fraxel now but have a chat with him and ask what his thoughts are. My rationale is that from first principles I would want the inflammatory reaction building new collagen and maintain the impetus by treating every four weeks. I have no proof but I believe that interruption to treatments and not completing the five may interfere with this.
terry in maine (16 posts) 19 May 2009
Dr. Molton, is there any reason you couldn't repeat the Fraxel treatments every few years? Any limits to how many treatments you can have over a lifetime?
Dr Michael Molton (19 posts) 19 May 2009
I don't think we have enough evidence yet to determine the answer to your question. CO2 laser resurfacing 15 years ago, although much more aggressive, would not be advisable to repeat due to pallor or blanching of the skin. I guess it depends on how aggressive the treatments have been with the Fraxel. If you are looking at the SR1500 and 70mJ/level 10, 8 passes, 5 treatments you'd have to be more concerned than at 35/5 8 passes and 5 treatments. I would make a decision with the patient on clinical examination of the individual
Dr Michael Molton (19 posts) 25 Jun 2009
There isnt any clinical evidence that I know of on this. I just came back from Japan and a colleague there does upto 10 treatments in a year for some patients but not sure of the settings. I would encourage all users to get involved with their treatment getting to know what settings are being used each time and how many passes. I have quite a few patients that have come for a single maintenance treatment after two years but I havent done enough mileage with this scenario yet. Stay posted!
28forever (11 posts) 20 May 2009
Dr Michael Molton, What would be your tmt for 49 year old white female fair skin large pores, but not necessarily breakouts, hundreds of milia underneath and above eyes. if my skin was tighter the pores would be gone. that's what happens when I pull my skin back. I do not need a face lift yet, not enough sagging skin yet. Is the YAG laser a serious skin tightner or is that a waste of hard earned money?
Brentmc (6 posts) 20 May 2009
Dr Molton, do you think that using Tazorac before/after the treatments would help with the collagen rebuilding?
Dr Michael Molton (19 posts) 25 Jun 2009
Its best to ask your treating doctor but retinoids I would not recommend in conjunction with Fraxel. Less is more so they say, too much 'fertiliser' burns the tomatoes!
Dr David Main (2 posts) 24 Jun 2009
I certainly agree with Dr Molton's points. Our clinic has performed over 1200 Fraxel Restore treatments. We have had one small scar only in one patient, and none for the last 2 years. Results are really only begin to be seen after 3 treatments, and continue thereafter. We do see some temporary post-treatment hyperpigmentation in darker skin types, but no long-lasting PIH.
mcast (55 posts) 28 Aug 2009
Hi Dr main on average how long does the PIH last for? I am 11 months post fraxel repair the PIH I have is not responding to hydroquinone of various strengths, I am now trying triluma. Any suggestions about what I should. Is this permanant?? thanks Mac
Dr Michael Molton (19 posts) 25 Jun 2009
Yes the pigmentation issue is temporary in my experience too. On the topic of melasma I would be interested in Dr Main's experiences in treating this and what settings he has used. I tell patients (obviously) that it will never disappear and that 30-50% improvement is possible provided they use 35+SPF twice a day (because it's the afternoon sun coming home that does the damage and I often prescribe 5% hydroquinone although the literature doesn't seem to support the efficacy of the latter in this application). Fraxel says 8 & 4 or even 3 every two weeks.
Dr Michael Molton (19 posts) 25 Jun 2009
Interesting. I havent seen this.
SuzyAv8trix (32 posts) 1 Jul 2009
Should I be concerned if my doctor wants to treat only a part of my face with fractional laser? I have been on a course of hydroquinone 4% and retinoids for 6 months and have also had 4 IPL treatments. I have been pleased with the results -- except for a few stubborn age spots. The fractional would be to attempt to resolve the stubborn age spots and plump up minor acne scarring... I've asked if that will make just that part of my skin "look different" and he said "no" -- that this is the part of my face where I really need it done. I'm nervous and have not scheduled the treatment. My burning question I have is why NOT treat my entire face? I have had confidence in this doc and have been pleased with my treatment -- until now... Help. What other questions should I ask? I have to wonder if he's doing this on the "cheap" to save "tips" as you have described previously... Am I being overly cautious? I'm scared. I'm 46 and have decent skin -- with a few minor imperfections -- I just don't want to make it worse... Thanks!
Dr Michael Molton (19 posts) 2 Jul 2009
I often do exactly what your doctor is recommending, in fact I have had this done to my own face without any problems on an age spot.
Dr David Main (2 posts) 2 Jul 2009
Michael, my experience with melasma is that Fraxel erbium does help - we reserve it for people not responding to bleaching formulae. Settings are typically lowish: energies 15 - 30 mJ, level 11 - 12. Improvement is unpredictable, but typically 30 - 75%. Q-switched YAG 1064 laser is also beneficial. Some Drs report good results with IPL, but this is not our experience. In respect of area treated, I recommend treating cosmetic units/areas, eg, cheek, chin, upper lip, etc, as rarely, a slight textural difference can be noted in treated versus untreated areas.
Dr Michael Molton (19 posts) 3 Jul 2009
OK good feedback. It would be interesting to do a prospective double-blinded side by side trial! I agree IPL is not the modality of choice for me.
Pia Ziano (1 post) 5 Aug 2009
I finished my 3rd session of Fraxel 3 weeks ago. My issues were pore size, broken capillaries, a few age spots, hormone hyperpigmentation, "puppet mouth" lines and some crow's feet. I am 54 years old. I tolerated sessions 1 & 2 pretty well. My skin texture improved and the brown spots & hyper pigmentation faded by half. Session 3 was cranked up to 65 (70 being the highest). It was very uncomfortable. My eyes swelled, and my neck still prickles when I get hot. But my puppet lines are not obvious, my crows feet are practically gone, pores are tight and I can't wait to do session 4 (yeah , right!) 3-5 sessions were recommended. I see a definite improvement. My friend who had 3 also is 60 years old but looks 10 year younger. I developed a swollen undereye this time, and am waiting until it goes down. Is it worth it? I believe so. I still need an upper & lower eye job to take years off my looks, but my skin looks so much more even and healthier. (I don't dare go out in the sun without #75 on! Too much pain & money was spent to ruin this work.The first time in my life I am actually taken care of my skin!) I find Cetaphil cream compliments the work as it makes my skin dewy & soft. PS I had a dermatologist perform my Fraxel & he is an angel.

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