Fraxel Destroyed my Skin...surprised? Fraxel Dual 1927 Wavelength - Boston, MA

Just another Fraxel horror story for all of you...

Just another Fraxel horror story for all of you considering it. I had Fraxel done 1.5 months ago to treat hyper-pigmentation and scarring caused by a Juvederm filler complication (vascular compromise). Basically I had a filler injection and experienced a 1 in 100,000 rare complication causing ulceration and long-term redness. I had Fraxel to treat this problem 3 months later. Now I'm left with very bad textural damage. My skin looks like an orange peel and is getting worse each day. I had the procedure at the same place I had the filler. Two devastating outcomes from one place. The hyper-pigmentation and scarring seem worse and my skin is falling apart more each day. I hesitated to get Fraxel due to the many negative things I've been reading and cancelled my first appointment, I almost didn't get it. Unfortunately, I changed my mind after being convinced by the technician and went through with it. I don't recommend this damaging technology.

The technician promised me that everything would be ok...Nope.

Hi! I'm sorry to hear about your unfortunate experience. Fraxel continues to destroy lives and nothing is being done to put a stop to this madness. It is criminal! I had Fraxel Repair done in Westborough, MA two years ago and my skin was also damaged. Like you I tried to back out of it but the nurse insisted it was safe and talked me back into getting the one time treatment for some mild Rosacea. The damage was immediately noticeable once the swelling subsided. Initially I noticed pin prick holes tatooed into by skin by the laser tracks which were seared into my skin all the way down to the dermis. The damage is permanent an is getting progressively worse with time. The tiny holes that originally looked like enlarged pores are now connecting to each other and causing fine lines all over my face. The collagen and elastin have been destroyed. I have also lost fat volume. My skin is rapidly aging and sagging. It is a mess! I hope that you have a better outcome than I have had. Good luck in Boston!
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I am sorry to hear about your two bad experiences:(   Frustrating!

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Hi MarkK1927, I strongly recommend that you do not do IPL or any other type of laser treatment. My skin looks exactly like yours from a single IPL treatment that i had almost a year ago. The nurse said that she used a low setting because my skin was sensitive and i have ended up with the same burn texture that i see in your pictures. The psoria gold has helped somewhat. I have been using it for 6 months now but my skin is still wavy, bumpy and covered in holes and lines. I was actually wondering if you continued with the retin a and if you have had any improvement. I plan on using the psoria for a couple of more months and then will reevaluate about using retin a. I have also completely changed my eating habits. Eat healthy foods, lots of fruits and vegetables and foods that are anti inflammatory. I am hoping that i will continue to see improvements as time goes on but while my chin is improving my cheeks are actually scarring now. In the last 4 weeks i have had white scars forming, some slightly raised. I am seeing the plastic surgeon tomorrow and will see what he says. I know this sucks. I too am hoping that i can somehow heal!

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The damage seems to be progressing each day..

the damage seems to be progressing each day..

Just want to point out in the second picture what...

Just want to point out in the second picture what looks like acne scarring is not actually acne scarring. I never had any acne scars, that scarred texture is what was left by the laser. My skin was baby smooth before Fraxel.
Im sorry to hear your horror story. let me state here that it is not the technology thats bad, its the hands that are using to operate the device and the knowledge of the person who is choosing the laser parameters. U cannot blame the car if the driver doesnt know how to drive the car. its a very similar situation. I would LOVE to know who did you filers and who made the decision to do your fraxel laser, who picked the dosages for the treatment and who took care of you after the laser procedure. I have been using Fraxel and several other similar lasers for almost a decade now and I have not had a single case of complications. in fact, people LOVE the results. i do it on my own face at least once every 6 weeks. please be more specific and let us know more details. its is a great device and a wonderful technology. but it works in experienced hands only.
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There should be more laws in place on who should be allowed to do this procedure. I went to Prevea Plastic Surgeons in Green bay, Wisconsin, and they had the aestitecian perform the procedure on my face.They told me nothing bad could happen,and it was a very simple procedure. If I would of known anything could go wrong I wouldn't of had it done in the first place, because I only had a mild case of malasma, and also wouldn't of had someone with a year of beauty school touch me.I was lied to and now my face and my life is ruined.
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Hi Julie, I'm sorry for what has happened to you. I understand your pain! It is excruciating. I hate waking up in the morning. You are correct, aesthitecian's should not be performing this surgery. A trained and experienced plastic surgeon in Westborough, MA did my surgery. He boasts that he was one of the first in MA to incorpate the Fraxel procedure into his practice. He actually teaches laser procedure to others and highly promotes it in his clinic. I believe he set the laser too deep when he did my procedure and did too many passes (4). The bottom line here is that lasers are dangerous no matter how qualified the technician claims to be. I tried to back out at the last minute but his nurse, Rebecca talked me back into it. She promised it was perfectly safe and even recommended it for her mother. She insisted that Dr. Ahn was the best and that nothing would go wrong. It did! :-(((( Of course, they deny it and insist that "a laser can't do that!" I think that is laser school 101. Deny, deny, deny! The all seem to say the same exact things once a problem occurs.
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Damage is getting a bit worse. New red scars...

Damage is getting a bit worse. New red scars appearing. Old scars widening.
My skin looked worse for quite some time after fraxel...but starting at about 3 months after the treatment I began noticing improvement. Now, 4 months later, I am MUCH happier than I was 1.5 months in. It is possible that you need more time to heal. It's a slow process. Still very sorry in your disappointment.
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I am sorry about your experience!!! It sounds like it started off bad with the juvaderm really......maybe later you will be able to see a really good Dr. Or plastic surgeon who only deals with the face like Dr. Min Ahn in Westborough Mass. ???????? the consultation is free and cannot hurt.
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Said the spider to the fly!!!!!!
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Uploaded a new photo to show you another result of...

Uploaded a new photo to show you another result of damage. I have horizontal lines extending across my forehead. They've been there since after the procedure and they never seem to plump out. They seem to get deeper. My forehead has a strange orange peel texture with long horizontal linear dents.
Hi MK, How's it going? I just read a thread suggesting seeking advice and treatment from a burn specialist. I think that's a really good idea. The damage from laser burns is often progressive and can continue for months and years. I'm 2 1/2 years from my treatment and my skin continues to deteriorate. If I were you, I would really seek out a burn specialist. They may be able to prevent permanent scarring. Wishing you well! http://iplandlaserdamagesupport.prophpbb.com/topic1989.html
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Skin's still a mess and Fraxel didn't help what I...

Skin's still a mess and Fraxel didn't help what I was trying to treat at all. I feel like I was tricked into it for that I have been told that Fraxel doesn't help with vascular redness. Although my skin is even more of disaster, I'm still very stressed about pigmentation issue from the filler injury and am considering IPL (a proven treatment for this type of problem). Although, IPL damage is apparently possible too and I'm on Retin-A which I've been told doesn't react well with IPL. I just wish IPL was suggested before Fraxel, not after. Quite stressed but at least the antidepressants are helping a little bit.
The Vi Peel is just a deep chemical peel it will peel the top layer of skin off and your new skill will not have the hyper pigmentation. I had the same problem from the sun (severe sun damage) and I had the peel and my skin is awesome. I have to admit... I peeled like crazy (it looked gross--I went to work and everyone thought something was wrong with me), but it was definitely worth it.
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I don't know if Vi Peel would help with the type of hyperpigmentation I have. It's deep vascular hyperpigmentation and I've read that peels may worsen vascular redness. The esthetician who performed Fraxel also suggested Vi Peel but I'm pretty sure neither of these treatments are appropriate. The esthetician suggested both of these options to me prior to Fraxel and I now feel I should have chose Vi Peel over Fraxel, Fraxel has really messed up my skin. I hope things normalize, if they do I'm going to definitely look into Vi Peel before rushing into another laser.
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HI My skin is trying to peel or build new skin. The under layer is burned red. The machine definition is burned into my skin over my lip How embarrassing is this I feel like a freak. I have cats claw scar line and the red burned skin. I am just putting silicone gel on it and hope it will get whiter. .
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Bah, skin looking quite bad today mates....

Bah, skin looking quite bad today mates. Texture-wise, very leathery, orange-peelish, dry, like a burn victim. Trying to stay positive; anyone else experience their skin looking damaged before their skin completely healed? I just want to understand whether my skin will normalize or whether it will heal into something bad, I really don't know much about other's experiences. Anyone else (maybe someone who received the 1927 nm) have this initial reaction before they completely healed months later? Please be honest,

Thank you.
Hi! i'm sorry to hear about your bad experience with fraxel. i was also severely damaged by this laser(palomar fraxel 1540). As you live in Boston I strongly recommend that you see Dr. Richard Rox Anderson at Harvard's Massachussetts General Hospital, who is the INVENTOR of the fraxel laser technology and most important one of the worlds most renowned laser doctors and experts in aesthetic dermatology. He is also very well known here in italy among dermatologists and you won't find a bigger expert in the field of laser dermatology in the usa. if he doesn't know how your skin was damaged and how to improve your issues than propably nobody will. i'm curious if he will deny like all the doctors do, that lasers can't do that. i would also print some fraxel laser victims pics from realself (like the face of angela walker) and iplandlaserdamagesupport and show them to dr anderson...he could examine your skin under the microscope and compare it with untreated skin to see what kind of damage was done( for example how does your collagen look like compared to untreated skin, have there been any dna mutations?)...it is the theory of many fraxel laser victims that in some cases fraxel lasers can cause in only one session what the sun causes in like 15-20 years....DNA DAMAGE( and because of this your lasered skin gets worser in the months and even years after the first and only procedure), destroys your natural collagen in the skin and this leads to the typical signs of aging : dry skin, fine lines, wrinkles, rough /bad skin texture, open sores, sometimes permanent redness (like in my case), hyperpigmentation. Also fat loss has being experienced. Unfortunately all these real and relativetely common side effects that people all over the world experienced and are experiencing have not being studied or only very little. This because doctors and most important laser companies do do not want consumesr to know about these risks (it's a billion dollare buiseness). Remember people would kill for money. It's like with antidperessants, only after many years doctors, pharmaceutical companys and fda realized and admitted that in some cases they can cause suicidal thougts (and ultimately lead to suicide).Maybe in the future the medical community will admit these side effects->that lasers even if performed properly, with right settings, from a board certified doctor can cause artificia and premature skin aging and /or worsen the appearence of your skin.I do not say that lasers have to be completely eliminated but people do have the right to know all the potential risks of these procedures in time trough an informed consent and photos that show these side effects.how i saidDr rox Anderson is the best address for you problems now and if you go to see him please show him as many as possible pics of fraxel laser victims.. Itis time that some major university medical center start to do some studies on these side effects that all doctors deny (" lasers can't cause wrinkles", "lasers can't cause dry skin" etc.). what did the lasers do to our skin, is it dna damage , changes in the collagen? another thing, if you are experiencing anxiety and /or depression after your frxel procedure (like many lasers victims do) i recommend that you see a psychyatrist/psychotherapist and get some antidepressants and therpay ....this can only be helpfull.....this is the website of MGH :http://www.massgeneral.org/dermatology/doctors/doctor.aspx?id=16786
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Thank you. Making an appointment now.
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Apparently he doesn't see adult patients, only children. I made an appointment with Mathew M. Avram instead.
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Going to see a dermatologist today and share with...

Going to see a dermatologist today and share with him my cosmetic damages and hopefully get a referral for vbeam to treat my vascular compression pigmentation issues. I'm also going discuss my burned face as it is causing me serious mental distress. I had a panic attack this morning and fainted on the kitchen floor.
Wanted to say a last think : the medical community is crazy! they are liars, unprofessional and highly unethical. They don't know what they are talking about and care only about money. They make everything sound so good and so easy and say nothing about the real potential hamful side effects of laser treatments....i truly believe that we laser victims know more about side effects of lasers than most medical doctors do(cause they don't want to know)... I checked dermatology books, dermatology literature and read the experience of a guy who attended lessons at the dermatology department of a medical center where they teach laser dermatology. Well, the books and dermatology professors that teach the use of lasers in dermatology say that the ONLY possible side effects of lasers are transient redness and swelling, changes in pigment(hyper or hypopigmentation) that are only rarely permanent and very rarely scarring. That's all.No dry skin, no lines, no wrinkles, no open sores, no dermal thinning, no sagging, no orange peel skin texture, no permanent redness,no rough skin texture, no fat loss is mentioned. For the medical community and SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE these side effects can't be related to lasers, they don't exist in laser dermatology. They'll laugh at you : "lasers can't cause wrinkles and fat loss, that's impossible, that's non scientific". They are non scientific, liars, unethical and unprofessional. We know the truth cause we are living it and we have the proof on our face.And I always read more and more horror storys, always the same issues, the same damage, transnational with doctors of every type from aestheticians to plastic surgeons to laser gurus.I'm not totally against lasers but consumers have the right to know in time from md's and not from internet laser forums about every possible side effects of these devices.These side effects should be written in dermatology textbooks and taught at university instead of being defined as "impossible or non scientific". They are real! People, believe us, even in the best hands even if the treatment is performed properly laser devices can be very hamful. They are still a non-pefect and not very safe technology. Side effects are unpredictable and can be multiple, davastating and dificult or even impossible to reverse.
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Yes, and amen to that! If doctors would start admitting the truth, it would be the dawn of a new world and maybe damaged people could really get the help they really need instead of it all being about fucking money. It truly is the root of all evil.
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ok, same thing happened to me. At 49 I was seeing a few lines, went to a Medical Doctor and she recommended Pearl Fractional. She said it would boost my collagen and make me look refreshed. Well, I am left with pin marks all over my upper lip and chin and some on my cheeks. Approximately 2.5 years later, I couldn't believe it. All the pins starting forming lines all over my upper lip and chins. I now have wrinkles all over my mouth area. She said she turned the laser up to get better results. She needs to pay for the expensive machine she bought. I have looked all over for help with no luck. Just had the vertical lines filled in with Juvederm which helped a little. Nothing can be done for the lines on my chin. I try to cover them with primer. I wish there was something that would layer the wrinkles so you can't see them. Try retina as it may help. I suggest everyone contact Dr. Oz as I did about two weeks ago. Sorry to everyone. KC
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Just an update. Skin texture getting worse and now...

Just an update. Skin texture getting worse and now noticing hollowness under eyes. The skin under my eyes are beginning to sag.
mk1927 did you already had your consultation at massachussets general hospital? waht did the dermatologist you saw till now say?
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Had to cancel due to work related schedule conflict and haven't actually rescheduled yet. Been meaning to but haven't due to on and off apathy of the whole ordeal (side effect of high doses of antidepressant). I'm also kind of afraid to hear it's scarring and if they recommend more laser I may be compelled to do it. The dermatologist I consulted was actually unfamiliar with lasers and wasn't sure if my reaction was related to healing or not and he referred me to other physicians that provide Fraxel. I have yet to contact them. I basically feel because I'm dealing with two cosmetic issues resulting from two different procedure complications, I need to focus on one at a time. Right now I'm trying to focus on the PIH from the filler injury and if I have success with IPL and no further complication occurs, I will then do a series of peels. I feel this will work. Hopefully...
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Just an update. Skin texture getting worse and now noticing hollowness under eyes. The skin under my eyes are beginning to sag.
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Recently noticed that the underside of my eyes may...

Recently noticed that the underside of my eyes may not be hollow at all but just swollen. They've been very itchy and irritated almost like an allergy or something. I've had small eye infections in the past but I'm not sure what to make of it. Eyes are quite irritated for some reason. If this persists I may get it checked out.

A few more updates. My anxiety's quite better...

A few more updates. My anxiety's quite better thanks to medication and I'm feeling better knowing I'm getting IPL in a few weeks to treat the PIH associated with the filler injury I've had. I'd LOVE to have that treated once and for all. Just to clarify, the red scars I've noticed in the past may simply be an illusion caused by my strange surface texture. Sort of a leathery, dehydrated, burnt skin type of look and scars (whether they're acne scars) underneath it appear stretched and misshapen. Hard to really distinguish what's scars and what's surface texture I guess. Unless it's safe to say the texture itself is one big scar. Lol, idk. I think an eventual peel following IPL my help it as it's likely superficial. Clearly I didn't heal well. I feel it may be physiology (poor wound healing) rather than the operator. The visibility of the texture seems to be mild in indoor lighting and mainly visible up close and much more pronounced in the sun light. Anyone else out there with similar issues? I still have that minor orange peel look on my forehead but that doesn't really bother me as much as the lower face textural issues that seem to proliferate with time. Also, can anyone recommend a good non-comedogenic moisturizer besides Cetaphil or Cerave?

Oh my goodness...

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Eh, I think this is worth mentioning because it's...

Eh, I think this is worth mentioning because it's driving me crazy. My face is so constantly itchy and it's starting to drive me nuts. It's weird because it's the most moisturized part of my skin. It gets itchier and itchier. I'm trying to moisturize more but I don't think it makes too much of a difference. It's getting hard to sleep, I'll even wake up in the middle of the night and have the urge to itch my cheeks. I haven't changed anything in my routine. I still use the same moisturizer "Cerave Cream". Maybe I need a better moisturizer? I've been considering Aquaphor but will that clog pores? Yet again, even though Cerave is supposed to be non-comedogenic I think I'm noticing little bumps all over my cheeks now. Hard to tell though with the way my skin texture is. Is there any non-irritating anti-itch creams I can safely apply? I know calamine lotion dries skin. What about Aloe Vera?

I too have had serious problems from laser treatments. The laser used on my face was fractional Co2 rather than Fraxel, but the effects were similar regarding subcutaneous fat loss and skin sagging. My face aged about 10 years over the course of one year. I am a 50 year old male who needed a partial facelift just to look reasonably normal again.

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Danmaha,I had the fraxel dual only 1 time at a very aggressive setting. I had instant facial fat loss, mostly around the midface and under eye. I also had my face 'drop' in a matter of 1 month. and nerve damage around my lip.also facial scarring. I am considering a full face lift. I was wondering if your fat loss was also under eyes and mid face? Did the facelift help the mid face area at all?
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Hello -- I suffered similar damage with an IPL laser. My skin today is far from perfect, but I improved it's appearance with dermarolling and SkinMedica's TNS Essential Serum.TNS is very expensive but contains human fibrolasts that rebuild the skin. Fibrolasts have been used for years to help treat burn victims, but SkinMedica is the first to market it for cosmetic purposes. Also, some of the fat loss and sagging has been remedied by facial exercise--I tried 3 programs before I found the one that is right for me. :) I have to say, I am convinced that the only people who say facial exercise doesn't work are the doctors who benefit financially from cosmetic treatments like Fraxel, Thermage, etc. Just my opinion. Fat loss under my eyes was also assisted by Juvederm injections, which I love. Not sure if you would be interested in going that route again, however. I know how devastating this can be, but I am confident that you will get through with a stronger heart and even better looks than you had before. Good luck to you, whatever route you decide to take.
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I've been using Tretinoin cream for about 2 months...

I've been using Tretinoin cream for about 2 months with no positive change. Same orange peel texture covering whole face. Still considering TCA peels.
i am booked in to do this....cheap dealon cudo...now i am petrofied..already had extremely bad tca peel complicated by cold sores years ago...now i think i should cancel....i couldnt handle what you guys going through again
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hey my friend. unfortunately you gambled and now you need to learn important life lesson. NEver trust a spa, never let anyone but doctors do lasers and ask questions even still can cause damage. My advvice to you, learn to start sleeping on you back, CONSTANTLY keep skin moisturized everywhere, dont pop zits ever and be extremely gentle with face no more exfoliants. mom is high level doctor i know what of i speak. gonna try obagi nuderm may help will keep u posted. Another important piece of info, discovered that lasers damage elastin, elastin in skin has limited amount of stretches when it dies wrinkles form, so now that its damaged to not wrinkle skin under any circumstances. i know bud, we're living a nightmare
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Does not matter who performs this horrific procedure since all of these so called laser machines are garbage and every top plastic surgeon will tell you this
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Time is flying by... Unfortunately nothing is...

Time is flying by... Unfortunately nothing is getting better. I've been on tretinoin for 3+months and am trying to decide whether I should continue.
How much did yu guys swell after treatments? I was pretty swollen specially around nose and around eyes, every time regardless was the treatment mild or strong. I hate this it is taking over my life, doubt I want to see what this skin looks like in ten years time
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Attention Fraxel destroyed my face!!!!I just had my ninth fraxel treatment,so i know you cannot blame it on your poor healing i m having the same symptoms. I have never had this reaction before. I should have known when the laser hurt more than usual that sometime had gone very wrong and it s getting worse each day. first scabbing the blisters and now scarring . i called them after the third day and complained about all the blisters they told me this was normal and that it would heal. So i waited and cryed and prayed but it didn't get better only worse...... HELP Three weeks later and i m getting very concerned cover in scabs from the blisters they tell me tho come in and give me a microdermabrasion session this doesn t help. Now I m getting worried a month later they tell me to meet with their doctor he says it will heal and schedules me to go in for more treatments with a different laser. I just had my first session today skin genesis i don t know if this will help me !!!!!!
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9!! that is a lot of treaments
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Update.

Hey guys,

It's been awhile since I've updated so I guess I'll throw a quick one. Umm, nothing's better. In fact, texture has gotten considerably worse. Haven't been using Retin-A. It's very unfortunate and has been a very stressful year... Who knows maybe things will turn around one day. Let's all try to stay positive.

I'll certainly post if things ever do get better. I think it's important that people publish their experience of bad to good to give others hope. I hope more people contribute.
Thanks guys.
I had the same thing that happen with the pixel and I have Black skin..The asthetician had me to use this procduct call "Neova Matrix Retinol cream.. It does not sting or burn the skin I had pixel marks left on my skin and I tell you within about 45 days of use at night only this stuff really help me out... Please read this it will not cause harm like most retinol cream Believe me you will love it and it works... You may email me @ toyetta3133@att.net fro more info.. I really hope this helps..It will... don't give up...
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I've read your comments on IPL and laser damage support and here. I'm wondering how you're doing. I think you said you were trying some treatments to help with the texture?
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Hi! I'm just Copying and pasting the review I've just read from the user "Vickyy". Maybe this could help you. "Hi everyone. I'll share with you my experience of recovering from huge post-fraxel damage, that I got three years ago. I thought it was the end of my life. I was 30 by that time and aged 10 years within 4 months. Trying to remove minor post acne scars, I got hyper pigmentation, redness, saggy skin, loss of fat around my eyes and on the right cheek. My life turned into nightmare. I underwent most expensive treatments and visited most famous docs, who did not give any hope, until I found one dermatologist, who turned out to be a real genius. She prescribed me a year course of roaccutane combined with vitamin therapy. And then a year later a course of biorevitalisation. Now I have such a dramatic change to my look, that most of my friends think that I've undergone plastic surgery. Roaccutane is usually prescribed for acne treatment, but it has also powerful capacity of restructuring inner skin tissues that give permanent skin lift. DO NOT BELIEVE to those who say that roaccutane is dangerous and harmful. I passed one year course and stay healthy and beautiful. They spread this fake information, because iroaccutane is cheap and helps to solve so many skin problems, that if people start taking it, most beauty clinics will go bankrupt. BUT YOU SHOULD TAKE ROACCUTANE ONLY UNDER DOCTOR'S CONTROL!!!!! Regarding hyper pigmentation, I had two 15% TSA pilings 4 months prior to roaccutane treatment (you can take after the treatment). And Spongilla lacustris L masks during the treatment. If you need more detailed description please write to my email v******@yahoo.com. I will be happy to share with you my experience. I know what nightmare you are passing through. PLEASE DO NOT FALL INTO DESPAIR, as I did one day. This problem is solvable." "

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Happy hello!

Hey everyone, I've been on 5 mg of isotretinoin for 216 days and all my problems have been fully rectified. I made a thread at iplandlaser damage, but I got banned for some reason. Anyway, my skin is currently pigment free, scar free, and pore-free. I can't help but assume low-dose accutane pretty much did it. I seem to have better skin than all my friends now. Just an update.

Image of current skin condition

Image of current skin condition

Another pic under better lighting.

It was a long road. The damage of course got worse two years after Fraxel. I then finally decided to experiment the low-dose Isotretinoin course. My skin has changed significantly about 180 days into the course. Now on day 216. Accumulation of the compound is 2820 mg right now due to sporadic dose changes, but I keep with it consistently. I wouldn't trust that IPL and Laser Damage Support forum. It seems to be a community pushing a product. Do what feels right. If anyone out there decides to try this make sure you consider risks! So far isotretinoin has worked for FraxelVictim, Vickky, and myself. Cheers!
I'm thinking of doing this as well. I have a dermatologist appointment soon. I had enough with my skin for the past two days. If it will help fix my skin I don't mind achy bones or dry lips. I really appreciate it. Did you have scars? I'm sorry for all the questions. I have large pores ice pick scars it's just terrible.
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Yes. I had very visible scar tissue (as seen in my older pictures) that remained for over two years. I then decided Accutane due publications that sounded promising. The major anti-inflammatory factor, the increased cell turn over rate, the dermal rebuilding and refining of the skin. It seems the drug works differently at different doses. According to my physician I'm in perfect health. Dry lips seem to be the only side effect and it's a negligible one.
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Hey. Do you think accurate really helped? I'm thinking of going in it as well. I just want to fix this damage. Thank you.
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Keeping track on this regimen

I wrote a program to help keep track of each day and the amount taken on that day, accumulation of the compound, and retinyl conversion to compare between retinoic acid and isotretinoin. This is my current status illustrated in the provided image. I find it's best you keep track of every variable if you consider pursuing isotretinoin as a viable solution.
Thank you for postig your experience. I too got the same results as you did, but from one IPL tx (Sciton BBL, 2 passes, one w/ 515 filter, one w/ 560 filter you can see my review here under my username). I got the same orange peel texture, odd dents, tiny holes, the works, and my skin is weirdly dry yet still oily. I also had to use Cerave Cream after the IPL, despite never needing any moisturizer pre-IPL, and while the Cerave really helped the texture, it also brought on a resurgence of acne. It's like walking a tightrope between acne and looking like a 90 year old crone. I am very intrigued by your isotretinoin experiment. Thank you for posting. Did iplandlaserdamagesupport ban you after any particular post? Did they tell you what rule they think you violated? I like that site as a resource, as there are so few resources for people looking for help after IPL/laser tx - I need all the info I can get. I am troubled to hear that they would ban anybody. I am currently dealing with a very distressing and apparently unusual complication from the IPL: 9 days after tx, I started getting 1-5 random, small, superficial light red bleeds on my face. Tiny little red spots of blood that come through my skin onto the surface. If I wipe them, they're gone. Sometimes it looks like a tiny hole or pore. Sometimes I see no visible opening. They are usually preceded by a slight stinging/warmth sensation, and most often occur at least 3 hour after I wash my face. I also got a very bad rosacea flare, w rosacea pustules w/ tiny telangectasias in them. The dr. who did the IPL could not explain the blood spots. She suggested that maybe the IPL had some paradoxical rxn in me and worsened rather then improved the rosacea, but she was surprised at this result, and seemed perplexed. She said maybe the blood spots are blood vessels on the surface that bleed when my face gets a rosacea flush or gets warm later in the day. This is really freaking me out, because when you see blood coming out of your face, the normal response is, oh my god, I must have a wound, my skin must not be healing, and I worry about what will happen next. No one seems to know what to do about this, other than suggest regular rosacea tx's I am already using (low dose doxy, finacea, etc.). Your experiment is interesting and I am happy that you found a solution.
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Wayne, you seem like an intelligent guy who is well spoken and understands the technical terms and ideas behind this stuff. Do you have a background in science?
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I wanted to ask if anyone has been able to contact Vickyy? I tried emailing her. Have you been able to Wayne_Accutane. I am considering accutane as well but I am 5 months out so I might wait a little while to see if anything changes. Right now it's just getting A LOT worse fast. I thought u was lucky and would only have the fatloss, hyper/hypopigmentation and acne like scarring. Now I have saggy skin and the orange peel as well. I am 27 and aged about 10 years in 4 months.
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I stated the user "FraxelVictim" also had success with Isotretinoin in a previous post. I meant the user "FraxelDamage". He's registered here on RealSelf and at that IPL and Laser Damage Support forum.
There is another little-publicized, but significant risk with medium resurfacing. Doctors have discovered that medium resurfacing does not work well on a significant fraction of the population and can make their skin appearance much worse. Even if penetration is not excessive, in some people, particularly those with large pores and a lot of skin oil, the epidermis may not regenerate well, resulting in a much worse surface texture than before the procedure. This is due to variations in the way new epidermal cells grow outward from the pores and sweat gland openings. Also, the basal or bottom layer of the epidermis, which forms new skin cells, may not return to it's normal pre-operative state. Even though wrinkles may be reduced, up close the resulting epidermis may be thin and have an uneven, orange-peel appearance. The pore openings may appear larger than before with tiny fissures around them, particularly in the center of the face. Loss of pigment can also make large pores appear more prominent. If you have any healed abrasions or chemical and thermal burns, you may see a similar difference in texture compared to your normal skin
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I wish we would have been privy to this prior to our procedures :( now what can we do?
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When I went back to question the laser tech who did mine she said I was out of luck because I signed the waiver. The waiver did not say anything about the bad side effects a lot of us end up with. I think the signing of the waiver is what helps them keep their conscience clear and continue doing these procedures on other.
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3030 mg total. Very happy so far.

Current state of my skin as I continue with my isotretinoin micro-dose experiment. Very happy!

I've ingested 3030 mg so far throughout this course. Stay tuned folks! I'm not finished yet.
Lol yeah!
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I corresponded with her and she told me 70% but then never responded after that.
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LMS even with the damage you have currently you're still hot. When a person looks at another person they don't judge them by the texture of their skin (as long as it's not horrific acne). They first notice the skull when it comes to physical attraction. You from the partial photos you've taken I can tell have an exceptionally beautiful face and that's even with damage. You're hot woman so own it.. :)
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3095 mg? This is turning into an Accutane blog...

Life's going great! I'm not online very often, so please don't be offended if I fail to reply to inbox messages on a consistent basis. I am no longer disclosing my isotretinoin vendor via private message. Just see a dermatologist and inquire about isotretinoin or find an online pharmacy which supplies well known brands such as Isotroin or Trevita.
I'm super bummed today too. Dr oz is trying to hear our laser damage stories and my stupid phone isn't letting me upload pictures or videos to send. I was really happy about getting our voice out there. If anyone else has time we have until tomorrow when they are taping the show.
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Lms you got a hold of doctor oz and laser damage ? Please is there room for me to provide feedback too?
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LMS, Do you know when it will be on??? I don't want to miss it!! Like Kamngetit I would give feedback too. I'm a veteran laser victim after having damage done to me 7 yrs ago.
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We would love an update on what has gone on since your last post. I hope all is well :)
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I was going to post on here too! I feel the prp has helped with some of the gaunt dry skin look, but I'm a far way from healing. I'm getting my first dermapen with prp treatment on Thursday, I'm just so anxious and impatient right now. I'm looking forward to this so much because of all the good reviews. If it goes well I'll continue a series of treatments. I know bk and a few other of you were considering it. Was wondering how much progress you had. Hope to hear from any of you soon :)
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Hi Kam, Hard for me to remember, but did you have the pin holes and lines?
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