Restylane: Stories

No it would be worst cause its thicker

So you had botox with filler?I had injection with filler in 28 of April and 12 of May.I see a little improvemnet but i still wear my glasses to mask the lump.I guess i am a slow absorber,i will have to wait about 12 months.I certainly had too much filler,1cc per eye,while 0.5 cc per eye seemed fine. I am now thinking to have a tranconjuctival eyelid surgery with fat reposition,i have read a lot,it seems that dr.Seckel is an expert on that

Hiya David - I too am considering a lower bleph but I plan to wait a full year after the botox/filler before undergoing any type of eye surgery. The area has been traumatised enough and I don't want to make it worse. Good luck with everything and let us know how you go and what you decide to do. Cheers

i had fat repositioning in london last april, im not a great fan your then left with hollowness if fat doesnt take, the fat on the left didnt take??? and on the right i still have a lump in the wrong place and i went to top british eye surgeon, i will not go to anyone ever again apart from dr hoenig in usa, in england we are all desperate to see him every british surgeon say he is the best, im sure alot of my problems started after botox under the eye which i will never have again, when that wore off i had the eye bags hence op, and slight cheek ptosis which looking at pics i never had before, i love botox above my eye till i have an op later in life but never at sides or under again also warning just because docs sound great and have loads of self promtion on internet does not mean they are great i fell for that in england when i had my fillers and spent a year crying over them good luck

Page not found..At my case i am pretty sure i had filler,cause he opened it in front of me

I accept that filler can cause problems, but I was just trying to make the point that botox and filler problems can get mixed up. My comment was really for chelseajan. Google these exact words with no quotes: demi moore time catches up. It is the first hit. The articles is called "Time catches up with Demi Moore as the aging actress finally shows new wrinkles" and is dated 22 October 2009 in www.nydailynews.com Hope everything comes good for you, David. I know how you feel. Cheers

The link to the Demi Moore pics did not copy correctly. Sorry. See: http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/10/22/2009-10-22_time_catches_up_with_demi_moore_as_the_aging_actress_finally_shows_new_wrinkles.html

Thanks so much for your post. As you will see from my many posts, I am having a terrible time with filler and now I am thinking botox as well, my cheeks are lopsided when I smile and I just look plain funky. Glad it wears off soon. What I want to know is what are doing in the meantime when going out in public, work, etc. How are you hiding these errors. Are you telling people what happened? Wearing your hair in your face. I work with the public every day and they stare at the areas of my face that are lopsided. I am so self conscious that I think I have aged 5 years worrying about it. Going on three weeks with this last screw up. Been having problems with it since the summer. Don't want to pay someone else more money to fix it - already spent a small fortune. She is trying to fix it, but one area gets better then makes another one show up (and obvious).

Sorry for the long answer, but I am having a very low will-this-nightmare-never-end moment. When I had the first screw up in April 09 (medium cheek ptosis and facial drop from botox) I attributed it to the wrong thing - dermal filler because I had restylane and botox at the same time. Big error. I had no idea that botox can cause such dramatic changes to the face. Like everyone else, I was convinced that botox makes people look younger and better but still like themselves. Not so. I have never looked older or more haggard or more bizarre in my life. I had the restylane dissolved in June 09 because it seemed like the most tangible reason for why I looked so weird. I was wrong. It was botox and having the filler under my eyes dissolved made everything a million times worse. Then I was given more botox to 'camouflage' the hyaluronidase damage and this was the greatest error of all. My doctor has had more than 20 years experience with injectables but she administered botox concurrently with antibiotics. The antibiotics potentiated the effect of the botox because these antibiotics (tetracyclines) already have neural blocking properties of their own. They made a small amount of botox take on the effect of a very large amount of botox. My face did not stop dropping and freezing for more than a month. It was terrifying. I have extreme cheek ptosis and facial drop and festoon formation under my left eye. Today is exactly 26 weeks since the botox disaster and I am still unable to frown. That is how paralysed my muscles are. I still can't stand under overhead lighting without dying inside from the embarrassment of how horrible I now look. I started all this rubbish because I have hated the dark circles under my eyes for my whole life. I wanted to feel confident under overhead lights without worrying about the dark circles showing up. I did not need botox. I should have just had the filler and been done with it. But I just didn't know and, moreover, I trusted that my doctor did know. How wrong I was. Ironically, I have never looked worse or felt less confident under overhead lights than I do right now. As to your question about being in public, I have avoided being in public as much as humanly possibly for half a year except for work. I am extremely lonely. I have not told anyone except those closest to me about my injectables disasters. Who wants to be the poster child for a botox stuff up? Not me. I cannot disguise the damage at all and I could not avoid being in public where work was concerned. I am a lawyer. I had to appear in court looking so dreadful that I cannot believe I had the courage to do it. Everyone at my work thinks I am sick with something akin to Bell's Palsy because that is what it looks like. The asymmetry in my face has been exacerbated to the most horrendous level. I have photos that would put people off all injectables forever. I am 'happy' to report that there has been some improvement at 26 weeks, but as the botox slowly, slowly, slowly wears off I am confronted with all the damage that I know is permanent. The loose skin around my eyes from the prolonged stretching of the skin as the fat pads have bulged forward. The new lines all over my face. The ruined skin. I can hardly count how many times I have read the words "there will be no permanent change" in the doctors' answers to people worried about the after effects of botox disasters. It is simply not true. There are permanent changes. But by the time it wears off the doctors can claim that any damage is just natural ageing. The lack of self confidence has been crippling and sometimes I am overwhelmed by my stupidity in being so trusting. It is horrible to live with regret everyday. The worst thing for me is how ruined my smile is. Smiling or laughing puffs out the festoon under my left eye, highlights the asymmetry in my face and creates strange dents and divots and shadows all over my face. The 'lift' of my face is god-awful and makes all the loose skin bunch up. What have I done about it? NOTHING. Nobody can fix it, they will just make it worse. It is very important to keep in mind that you remember what your face looked like but a new doctor does not know and your original injector does not remember. Honestly, they will only make it all worse. The only think that can help you is time. I am giving this a rest for a full year (July 2010) and then I will consult an ocular plastic surgeon about what can be done to repair the damage to my eyes and to my face. Hang in there, I know how hard the curious stares are. I have endured them also. I used to look young for my age. I used to be pretty. Even with the dark circles, I used to be confident. I saw signs of age and I wanted to keep what I had. All I did was pay someone to take those things from me with 'safe, easy and effective' (HA!) injectables. It was the biggest mistake of my life.

I personally feel for you,i had injactions of HA last May and 8 moths later there is plenty of it on my left eye,but fortunately i have seen a reduction I didnt want to go through the procedure of injecting an enzyme to melt HA,because i have read it can cause more trouble. I just give time,i hope that after 4 months it will be gone forever My only concern is that i start to believe that the injections damaged the eyelid and now i have more fat bulging than before,i will know that only when Ha has completely gone I wear glasses the last 8 months evey day for the first time of my life,just to hide my eyelids and mask the problem I used to wear contact lenses. Maybe its a good idea for you to wear glasses if you feel so unconfident to be in public, There are many elegant and nice glasses and you can mask the problem by giving time to heal Thats what i am doing now I know that you all hear like me that its temporary,i myself dont know if its true,but Botox and HA are not permanent they will be gone one day!!

I appreciate the long answer. It is a little less lonely and depressing to know that someone else is going through the botox/filler nightmare. Though not having the drooping, I am obviously lopsided. I avoid public places, social events, and bright lighting. I have to see many people at work too. All I wanted was to look less tired even when I am not. I now look 10 years older than 5 years younger for my age. I look like my hubby bonked me in the eye because one is dark and the skin is droopy under it. I spent a small fortune with an experienced doctor to look worse now than before. I look at the before and after ads for filler, botox and it makes me that much more angry. So much for getting a refreshed look. Now like you I just use the excuse that I am tired, or sick, or that my sinuses are swollen on one side of my face. I know they think something is up. I wont take off my glasses and have lost all of my confidence. I hope that yours gets better. I wonder if you took a before picture to a doc if they would have any ideas for you. I am truly sorry for your agony.

OmGoddd! That's why I allowed him to inject the smile lines - i thought it would make the dark circles less noticeable. Now it's chipmunk, crepe sking, weird overlapping wrinkles like waves upon the crest of my rising cheeks when I smile OR mak ANY facial movement that causes my dropped pad/ puffy cheek to rise with any inflection of my face. Did you also have the fluish symptoms, sinus, fatigue, nervousness, irritability... I'm still sickly wiped out and it's almost 2 weeks. I have another appt who tried to pretend that he'd never heard of such a reaction and "it's not the botox". Unbelievable I'm deformed and he's just taking my money? He's never heard of botox chipmunk or pitosis? So wrong. b Did your doc reimburse you?- offer you another procedure? What is reasonable to expect from a decent practitioner? Legally what am I entitled to? I can just see him triing to deny it and stiffing me a refund. How do i protect myself? Are you going to hit up your doc for damages? to pay for the medical repairations you'll need next year? I've heard that certain laser procedures can help tighten skin/increase collagen. It's so hard to have hoped to enhance my looks and come out disfigured. THANK YOU for the sobering news that my fears of permanently stretched skin disfigurement are well founded. What about under eye exercises to tighten that skin? Did you try them? Best to you. I'm, exhausted, sick/literally having a toxic reaction and my sleep sched has been upside down since the injections. Insomnia. My God what have i done? I'm really upset that all this puffing out of the skin under my eyes is going to leave me with bags. They should be accountable for the cheek/facelift. This is really.

Hi again Darryl I replied to another of your posts but will post again here. It is Sunday afternoon in Australia and I am hiding at home as usual so I have the time. After 30 weeks, it is getting incredibly lonely as you can probably imagine. I used to be such a happy, confident and social person but botox changed all that. My bad botox experience has left me very disappointed in the medical profession. I think that the medical profession and pharmaceutical companies concentrate too much on promoting the benefits of botox. They should equally devote their time to being honest about the possible adverse effects, including the terrible aesthetic results we have suffered. They should also know how to recognise a bad cosmetic outcome and more importantly, how to help us recover when something goes wrong. I had to work out what went wrong for myself because my doctor was as ignorant as yours (although she has been practising in this field for decades) and there is literally no information about how to recover from a bad botox result at all. Believe me I have looked. There are benefits to botox. It does reduce wrinkles and there is no denying that. But there are also terrible risks including awful cosmetic outcomes. We should be told of that in advance. I am not sure how the informed consent procedure works in the US but I was given no information about botox prior to the injections and I signed nothing. This is unusual for Australia because it is generally a highly regulated country. But it would appear that the area of injectables has escaped adequate government regulation for the time being because government responsibility for the medical profession and for the administration of drugs (therapeutic goods) is split between the State and federal governments and injectables got lost in the shuffle. There are RealSelf members who are adamant that everyone signs an informed consent document but this is not true. I didn’t. I agree that everyone SHOULD sign one, but it doesn’t seem to happen in practice. If I were aware of even half the bad things botox can do – horrible physical effects as well as side effects – then I would have said no. And if I knew that there would be absolutely no assistance or advice to help me recover then I would definitely have said no. In addition to my horror physical effect, I also suffered botox side effects similar to yours – insomnia, night sweats, headaches, nausea, anxiety and panic attacks, loss of concentration, disorientation, fatigue, flu-like symptoms, feeling faint etc etc etc. I was not confident to drive a car for months. There are STILL doctors who deny these systemic side effects are related to botox. Instead, they repeat how safe and effective botox is and insist it has NO side effects. This would seem ridiculous. Paracetamol has side effects, so why wouldn’t botox have any?? Like other medications, I don’t think the side effects happen to everyone but they certainly do happen. It is early days for you - only a few weeks in. I think that the botox side effects I suffered got better after about 5 weeks and then slowly went away altogether over the next few months. That being said, I had to take some valium (you call it xanax) to get past the worst of it. You might want to consider getting a prescription (RX) just to get some sleep? I am wondering why we are all so prepared to put up with our injectors’ incompetence? We would not accept this from a surgeon. We expect that surgeons advise us of all the risks. If we decide to take those risks and go ahead only to suffer some complication, then we expect the surgeon to be able to manage that complication. Our expectations of injectors are much, much lower and I think this is wrong. I know how awful and distressing this can be and you have a long way to go. If it makes you feel better, it would seem from the other anecdotes about botox-induced cheek ptosis on this website that my result has lasted longer than other people. I still look absolutely rubbish after 30 weeks. Another RealSelf member (Beth F) who described her cheek ptosis as ‘severe’ saw most of it come good after about 24 weeks. Therefore, I would describe my result as ‘extreme’. I felt my cheek muscles start to puff back up over the bone on 5 January 2010 (Week 26) but they are not strong enough to pull the fat back up my face even after another 4 weeks. I wonder if they ever will be. Beth F did report residual damage, particularly that the skin around her eyes remained looser than it was before and this never corrected. I am preparing myself for this. If I really can’t live with how I look after a full 52 weeks then I am going to look at a lower blepharoplasty/canthopexy and possibly a cheek lift to rectify the damage. I will have to wait and see what happens. Waiting for a bad botox effect to wear off is a lonely, depressing and long road. If you ever want to talk, then please send me a private email with your phone number and I will give you a call. Wishing you the best. Cheers

So sorry to hear this. I do think that some people are allergie or have adverse effects and it is not in the media. My mishap was too much therefore causing lopsided face. Maybe you can try laser firming treatments to avoid the expense of surgery. Sometimes a chemical peel can help with firming a little too. Hope it works out for you.

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