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I am 40 and have had lines across my forehead for years now. Since I have a fringe, my forehead lines never bothered me. I am now developing crowsfeet and 11s and my brows have lowered. I am considering botox for a brow lift, my crows feet and 11s. My question is: Should I leave the forehead lines alone so that there is no risk of that heavy brow look? I have very vivid facial expressions and don’t want it to be affected too much. My goal would be to achieve a natural, just slightly more relaxed look.

22 Doctor Answers | Asked by similla in Switzerland
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Refined Botox Technique

Careful technique should be able to address all of your concerns without causing an unnatural appearance. Conservatively placing Botox into the lateral periorbital (crows feet) area, glabella ( 11's) and the forehead will be able to resolve the dynamic wrinkles in these areas and give you a subtle brow lift without giving you a heavy brow or static facial expressions. Best Regards, Jacque P. LeBeau, MD
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Botox for 11s, crow's feet, forehead lines, and brow lift

Botox can be injected to correct crow's feet, 11s, and forehead lines without dropping the brow. The brow lifting aspect can be addressed as well.
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Botox treatment - a refined approach

The Botox treatment you receive should be based on you presenting your concerns and making clear which areas you'd like improved. You can safely prevent a heavy brow and still leave some movement, and avoid treating the forehead lines as they don't bother you. Speak with a highly trained and experienced physician such as a dermatologist to ensure optimal results and safety, and a natural look that you desire.

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Botox for eyebrows lift

Than you for your question. As your main concerns are: not to get heavy brow look and goals are to lift eyebrows, improve frown and craw feet lines. Forehead lines do not bother you and your hair covers it anyway. Targeting muscles responsible for the frown lines will let your forehead muscles lift the eyebrows as they will have no opposing action from weakened glabella muscles. Your doctor always can use smaller doses at first for the frown lines and the craw feet lines if you want... more
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Botox "brow lift" is a great starting point for many people.

Similla, Your thoughts are right on target. In order to be careful with your first experience with Botox, not to feel your brows are too heavy, it's a great idea to soften the crow's feet and the glabellar frown lines (11's) and raise the brows a bit with the brow lift injection pattern. I often find that taking this downward pressure off the brows allows my patients to use less forehead muscle action to lift the brows, and it therefore secondarily softens the forehead lines anyway... more
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Which areas should I do Botox

First, find an expert physician who is a board-certified dermatologist or plastic surgeon. This will ensure you get a better result and technique. I usually advise my patients to start small. So in your case, treat the 11s and the crow's feet, and a bit to lift the brow. But keep your forehead un-done. As things progress you will see how much you like it, or if you want more added. It's always easier to add!!
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Botox and treatment expectations

Consult with a well-trained and experienced injector for all of your options and to discuss your expectations.
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Best to go slowly

I would suggest just treating the crow's feet and elevens and brows. Wait a couple of weeks and see what you think. You can always come back and add a little to the forehead if you feel its needed. It is good to communicate closely with your doctor, so that over the first couple of botox visits you can finesse the results to just how you like them.
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Refined Botox Technique?

Hard to advise based on the posted photo that has hair covering forehead. Try just BOTOX for the 11's first to see if you like the effect.
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Avoid Botox for your forehead for now

You should have Botox treatment for your 11's, crow's feet and brow lift and avoid your forehead for now. After 2 weeks you will see your full result and depending on your forehead movement, an experienced injector will be able to advise you on whether you should treat your forehead. I would rather see some forehead lines than a drooping brow.
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Botox for forehead lines

Botox works great for forehead lines. the key is to make sure you go to a board certified PS or Dermatologist for your care. my advice to you would be to not settle for cheaper prices. Good luck!!
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Treating forehead wrinkles with Botox

Your forehead is covered by your current hair style and therefore other than crow's feet and '11' lines, there is no need for you to spend money on the forehead lines - this will maintain your concern about maintaining your 'vivid facial expressions' - rejoice !
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Botox for browlift without affecting forehead expressivity

I agree with your plan: treat your glabella (11's) and crow's feet, and leave your forehead untreated (or undertreated). You will achieve maximum lift, and preserve maximum expressivity, this way.
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Botox for brow lift

Simila, ?I think you have done your homework and you have exactly the right idea. Injecting your 11's and crows feet and leaving your forehead alone should give you what you are aiming for without risking a heavy brow. GO for it.
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Botox for a natural look.

Hi Similla. You can accomplish what you are shotting for. The glabella (11 lines) would be treated, the outside of the eyes (crow's feet) and perhaps even a mini browlift (area above outer eyebrow). The browlift can raise the brow slightly which can give you a less tired appearance. This can all be accomplished without dosing the horizontal lines in the forehead.
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Botox

Treatment with Botox really is an art. You need to find a Dermatologist or Plastic surgeon you feel comfortable with. Someone who can assist you with your goals. If you're not sure which areas to do you can always start with the 11s, the glabella area. You can always do more areas in future visits. That way you can see if you like the results with Botox. If done correctly I'm sure you'll be very pleased. Good luck, Dr Radin more
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The challenge here is that for the most part injectors do not understand how the periocular muscles interact.

I recommend you search on microdroplet botox. This is a patent method that precisely targets the eyebrow depressors and leaves the forehead lifter muscles alone. Doctors make the mistake of thinking that the best way to deal with forehead lines is by freezing the frontalis muscle. This muscle is responsible for the lines but it is also the main forehead elevator. By selectively weakening the brow depressors, the frontalis does not need to work as hard. more
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Botox for forehead lines

Since your forehead lines have never bothered you then yes, you should not have them treated. It would be simple to do a nice "eyebrow lift" by treating both the 11's and the crow's feet. This can be achieved using Botox, Dysport, or Xeomin. When properly injected by a physician, you should achieve a natural, relaxed look.
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Botox

You can Botox for all of your problem areas with excellent and natural results. I would suggest using lower than usual doses to try and maintain a more natural result with subtle wrinkle improvements. Make sure you see an experienced board certified plastic surgeon in your area. Paying a bit more to see an experienced and talented physician is worth it.
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Refined Botox technique?

Botox is primarily used to paralyze muscles in a given to smooth wrinkles in the area. It is commonly used for the following: 1) Forehead wrinkles 2) Crow's feet 3) Glabella (11 lines) 4) Small wrinkles above the upper lip known as "smoker's lines." 5) To raise the corners of the mouth 6) To elevate the brow 7) To atrophy the masseter muscle and improve the jawline You do not necessarily have to leave the forehead lines alone to avoid drooping the brow. A good... more
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Botox Brow Lift

If you are looking for maximal lift from the Botox, then I would suggest injections in your glabella or "11's" and also your crow's feet. You may actually find that you get too much of a lift and then may consider having a few injections in your forehead or frontalis muscle to achieve the best contour to your brows. Good Luck.
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Botox

Try Botox first. Look for a Black Diamond level practice as they will often perform the most Botox treatment and can be most experienced
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similla 31 Dec 2012
I just want to thank all the doctors who took the time to answer my question. Your know how and advice have helped me immensely in deciding which is the right way to go for me! I'm now well prepared for my first consultation.

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