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How Do You Measure the Unit of Botox? Can It Be Diluted So Derma Can Charge More?

asked 1 year ago by hearty in Philippines
Latest answer by Peter A. Aldea, MD
Question viewed 977 times
Tags: eyes, forehead, female, bunny lines

Derma 1 injects total of 44 units for around eyes,bunny lines,forehead.This lasted for 6 mos around eyes and bunny lines & even 8-9 mos on the forehead.

The last time I had Botox w/ Derma 2, 1,56 units were injected but it started wearing out after 3 months.Derma 1 normally charges USD7 per unit.

Because of the fast fast wear off of my Botox, I decided to go to Derma 2, injected total of 800units & charged only USD445 & w/ retouch after 3mos. Please enlighten me on why there is a difference in cost and length of time. 

8 answers to How Do You Measure the Unit of Botox? Can It Be Diluted So Derma Can Charge More?

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The only thing that matters is how my many units of BTX-A you get

1. The "unit" is a standard dosage measure for the various formulations of BTX-A. Each manufacturer [for example Allergan:BOTOX®, Ipsen:Dysport, Merz:XEOMIN® has their own highly standardized, proprietary methodology for determining a standard dosage unit for their product. For this reason, it is not possible to compare or translate "units" of one formulation [for example, units of BOTOX®] into units of another formulation [for example, units of... more
Kevin C. Smith, MD

Niagara Falls Dermatologic Surgeon
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Is Botox Diluted So Injectors Can Charge More?

Absolutely! Whenever I'm told by a patient "Botox does not work on me..." I suspect this is what happened. There are MANY ways an unsuspecting patient can be short-changed and over charged for Botox - the Botox is outdated and no longer active or as active - the Botox is NOT Botox (it came to the country from either Canada or other unknown sources (Federal crime) and you are being injected with an unknown - while you are TOLD you are getting X number of... more
Peter A. Aldea, MD

Memphis Plastic Surgeon
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BOTOX units are the actual amount of product

It’s not a question of dilution. Units are the actual amount of product. The solution can be diluted to different amounts, but the number of units will be the same. That’s how you determine whether the amount of BOTOX given was correct. see video
Joseph A. Eviatar, MD

Bronx Oculoplastic Surgeon
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Botulinum toxin is in units

I unit refers to the dose that would kill 50% of the mice injected with it. i vial of Botox contains 100 mouse units. In the two studies used for the FDA approval of Botox 20 units of Botox was used at 5 sites  with a 2.5cc dilutiom. I presently use 24 uits and it last 6 months,With Dysport a total dose of 50 Units of DYSPORT™ is divided in five equal aliquots of 10 Units each, should administered to affected muscles to achieve clinical effect. In reality because of greater... more
Arnold W. Klein, MD

Beverly Hills Dermatologic Surgeon
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Botox and Dysport are diluted but not to charge more

All Botox and Dysport must be reconstituted by adding sterlie liquid with the powder. To compare different treatments you need to know how many units were used, not the number of ccs of fluid.  The doctors may charge per cosmetic area treated or the number of units used.  Dysport uses a different number of units than Botox so you can't compare them easily, especially since different doctors use different dilution formulas (as an example some use 2, others 2.5 and other 3 times... more
Ronald Shelton, MD

Manhattan Dermatologist
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Dilution of Botox

What is important is the number of units of botox injected, not the volume which can vary from physician to physician. It is very unlikely you had 800 units injected around the eyes and in the forehead. The success is truly dependent on the experience and technique of the individual physician.
Richard W. Fleming, MD

Beverly Hills Facial Plastic Surgeon
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Botox - Units, Effectiveness, Dilution - What's the Story?

Alan M. Engler, MD - New York Plastic Surgery and Aesthetics What’s the difference between Botox and Dysport? Well, depending on who you talk to, either a lot or very little. Botox is, of course, better known. It’s been around for years and is actually one of the most consistently effective non-surgical treatments available. It targets those pesky frown lines and grooves on the forehead, between the eyes (the “11” lines), at the sides of the eyes, and nearly... more
Alan Engler, MD

New York Plastic Surgeon
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Most Practioners Charge Per Unit of Botox

Most practioners whether they are surgeons or dermatologists charge for Botox on the basis of the number of units injected.  I think you may have misunderstood the amount of Botox injected by Derma2 as the cost to him/her would far exceed what you where charged unless they were into patient welfare.
John Whitt, MD

Louisville Plastic Surgeon

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