How Can Lower Jaw Can Be Brought Forward to Its Place Without Surgery?

Hello.I had my braces on 7 months ago and after that I actually started noticing dramatic changes in my face.The lower jaw fell back(probably due to retractive forces of braces system),as a result,my chin has recessed ,my face elongated.I red that this is a typical phenomenon that appears when the teeth get pulled off,however,I didnt have any extractions.How can everything be reversed with a non surgical way?Will my jaw be back into its place if i take off the braces on this stage?I am 19.

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Megan P (Community Manager) 24 Jul 2012

Charlotte1824, from what I know the splint will basically give your muscles a rest, especially if you clench your jaw or grind your teeth (really common with TMJ sufferers).

As for the chin recession with braces, I've never heard of that before. The first youtube video posted by SarahTel Aviv is about headgear (different, though often done with braces) and is an advertisement. I never had braces, but have a weak chin. They are not always related. People usually get braces while they are still maturing (15-20ish) so the face will be changing shape as the body continues to mature. You might find it interesting to do some research on Class 3 malocclusions, as those are people with more projection in their jaw than is ideal. I think you will see how much extra treatment is needed to correct this (ie rubber bands, special appliances, headgear, sometimes surgery, etc). Hopefully that info helps you guys a bit.

Charlotte1824 21 Jul 2012

Its such a shame that they dont actually warn you of this before hand, i literally had only the tiniest of movement to be made to my top 2 front teeth which had slightly shifted, it was so minimal but i was told it would get worse if not treated and my dentist who i trust told me you should always move top and bottom together so i paid double to have the bottom braces also. I can say i wish id never bothered now. Im hoping once they are off things will go back to normal, i hope thats the case for you too. Are u wearing the retainer or are you hoping your teeth shift back into place in order for your face to go back also? I actually asked the place i had it done they day i got them if they change your face shape and was told its never been proven but if you look up a bracelift on google you will see it as one of the selling points of damon braces, therefore i assume they have proven it changes you face. Ive already had another person comment that my face looks more hollow but its my chin thats bothering me, my head looks less long and shorter with a chicken neck! You will have to keep me updated as to whether your chin goes back to where it was now treatment has stopped. i have my first tightening in 2 weeks so i will ask my ortho and see what he says, i guess i may have to stop treatment also if this change has happened in a month. I thought it may be due to bone loss. My friend also had braces at 28yrs and she said it changed her chin and nose. Hopefully maybe a dr on here can explain why it happens and if it returns to normal.

SarahTel Aviv 24 Jul 2012

Hello.Well,to begin with,I made a research in the internet debths,in various forums and came to a conclusion that having braces was one of the biggest mistakes ever.Braces definitely change face (and not only in cases when the teeth are being pulled out),however,some people have less obvious,noticable effect,less dramatic effect,others,however,have negative effects which are quite noticable.I have found at least two hundred people on some orthodonics russian forum,that had changes after having the braces on.Some were happy(case with a girl who had very round face and braces caused it elongate a bit),others were complaining,mentioning as well the same chin recession,derogation of face oval,lip shape deformation(the corners of lips fall down) and so on.The biggest problem is that everything I listed is not proven scientificantly.I am sure that orthodontists know clearly about those side effects,however the profit is their first priority. I wont lie to you,but to my surprise,I do have changes now when I am almost a month without them.My mother who sees me from the side,says that the jaw line is becoming more expressed than before.The lip shape is absolutely back to its normal shape,the oval of the face has changed a bit and I hope it will keep changing as time goes on while teeth would get at their previous place(they probaly wont be back at exactly the same same position,but close to it).I am happy I had them off and ofcourse I dont have any retainers,why would I have ones?It would keep my teeth in the position which i dont want them to be,they are pushed back in stright line which caused the all side effects in mky face.I am about to have consultations with jaw surgeons and other orthodontists and see what they say.I have to tell you that my changes in the face shape,started a few weeks i had them on,write after the teeth started moving into a stright line.Only than i had no idea what cost i would have to pay for having them stright.The girl whom you mentioned who had a nose change after the braces is actually not surprising phenomenon.Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQG32plK8us Here is another patient who had teeth pulled out for barces http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXQDAANuVyw Definitely avoid the jaw surgery at any cost.I hope that my jaw would be back to its place and i suggest you not to listen to any traditional orthodontists,not to trust to yours as well(remember his first priority is the profit) and take them off as soon as possible.If your teeth are not that crooked,its not worth it.Mione werent crooked,only the upper two were not completely stright( i am talking about mm's almost unvisible).I will keep you in touch with my progress.

Charlotte1824 26 Jul 2012

Hi Sarah,

I had the bottom ones taken off yesterday, i only had them for a month and the ortho said that the teeth should just move back into normal position which i hope in turn pushes my chin back to where it was, i think at the mo i look like the old comic character desperate dan with a really wide square jaw. The pain i was getting in my jaw was ridiculous, ive spent the last 2 weeks in agony not being able to turn my head, brace comes off and i feel so much better so it was messing with my whole upper body. Im pleased to hear your face is changing back, i think given a bit more time you should go back to normal if u dont retain the teeth, well i hope anyway. I am like you, my 2 top teeth had shifted slightly, apart from that my teeth have always been perfect, i guess i had about 2mm movement if that but i was worried about long term health of them and the jaw problems i was experiencing since they moved, i thought if it was put right my jaw would get better. It cost me over £2000.00 up front. Ive left top ones on and hope that wont change my profile to much as it felt like the bottom pressure pulling on my face.
Scientifically proven or not they really should advise adult clients about this, were spending our money to improve our looks and if there is any chance that they could make things alot worse then they should tell us, i wouldnt of bothered with the process had i known whole picture.

Megan, thanks for your msg, the guy who offered me the splint wanted to charge more for it than the braces and he said it may or may not work to position my jaw, and if it didnt then we would get an MRI and possible surgery, i would have been looking at 6k + by the time im done and then they sent me pictures with someone elses teeth so they just seemed like scammers.

Photos ive looked at show how much more elongated my face was prior to the braces, my chin had gone quite nice and pointy outwards, within 2 weeks of braces my chin disappeared and i ended up with fat under your chin that hangs! I dont know why as i lost weight so should have been the opposite effect. The ortho told me the bottom teeth had moved out so i guess that gives a different look and also the jaw issues perhaps complicated things, he also said my bite was all wrong due to the teeth moving out so i would imagine eating i was forcing my jaw back to chew properly. I have to rate braces as i pile of rubbish unless you have really bad teeth. Ive also googles alot and come across quite a few adults saying their face changed shape, if u look at before and after pictures you can see changes also. I guess it just depends if the changes compliment your face or make it look worse.

Charlotte1824 21 Jul 2012

Id be really interested to see an answer on this, ive only had my braces on a month and my bottom jaw has receded, it wasnt protruding to start with, in fact it could of used coming forward a couple of mm, now its sunken back and i have a fat chin neck type thing going on and my face looks wierd. I want to know if it is a permanent change or will go back to normal after braces are off. If you ever did get an answer from anyone or found out from your ortho could you please tell me?

SarahTel Aviv 21 Jul 2012

Hello.Well,I suppose none of the doctors has an answer to my question.By the way,I made a research and found out that braces actually cause a chin recession,due to the retractive forces they have.I had them for 7 month and i took them off recently,I basically stopped the"treatment".I am waiting because my orthodontist says everythink will get back to its place.If not,I will visit a couple of surgeons who are qualified on jaw surgeries and see what they say.However,I am already happy i took them off,but i regret i ever decided to have them.

Charlotte1824 21 Jul 2012

Just one more thing, there is an appliance they can give which sits in your bottom palette that you wear at night, they do a mold of your mouth and it pushes your jaw forward, stretching the muscles i guess. However i wouldnt imagine its comfortable, i cant see how stretching muscles actually brings your jaw forward. I was quoted the same cost that i paid for braces for that appliance after seeing a jaw guy for tmj problems. I think it was called a splint. Jaw surgery sounds to drastic, there is so much that can go wrong and u may never be happy with the results so i would avoid that at all costs where possible.