I understand many doctors believe Ulthera can dissolve fillers. Besides Dissolving fillers, what other possible side effects are there of doing Ultherapy over fillers? Can the filler move? I've had Restylane injections around the eye/cheekbone 2 months ago and now want Ulthera around the orbital area as well.
Risks of Having Ulthera over Fillers?
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Ulthera with Radiesse fillers - Los Angeles
New clinical research has shown that Ulthera can work synergistically with stimulatory fillers such as Radiesse and Sculptra to stimulate collagen formation. We advise patients to undergo Radiesse with Ulthera. Raffy Karamanoukian, Los Angeles
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Not usually necessary to do Ulthera over fillers
There really isn't much to go on in terms of the effects of Ulthera over fillers such as Restylane or Juvederm, because it is common sense not to treat over them and so there is no experience to draw upon. However, the areas we usually target for fillers do not overlap much with the areas where Ulthera is done so it isn't a major issue.
Ultherapy and Sculptra and Radiesse
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Ultherapy and Fillers
It has been a question that physicians have had, and one that has not been scientifically proven, if fillers dissolve faster because Ultherapy energy was passed through the filler. If it can be scheduled such that Ultherapy is done before the fillers then there is no concern. I am not aware of any cases of Utlherapy making a filler change in its chemical properties or make it migrate.
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Ulthera and fillers
As you mentioned, the main risk of preforming Ulthera over fillers is that is can dissolve the fillers faster. In the future, I recommend having your Ulthera treatment prior to filler injections to ensure. This time, just make sure you communicate to your physician that you have had filler injections on the cheek and eye area.
Ulthera and fillers
The risk of performing Ulthera after fillers is that the filler will dissolve faster. I prefer to perform Ultherapy before fillers. After the lift from Ulthera, the patient may need less filler. However, you can have fillers first. I would wait 2 weeks betweeen treatments. It is useful to go to the same physician for both, since they will know exactly where the fillers are and easily avoid them.
Ulthera after fillers
The major issue with performing Ulthera over fillers is exactly what you mention- the risk of dissolving the product. Other than that, there is not data to suggest any other risks associated with this sequence of procedures. Having said that, it is important to be aware of the risks of Ulthera, in general, such as bruising, swelling, temporary numbness, and welts (especially with the more superficial transducers. THere are many circumstances in which we have performed Ulthera over areas where fillers have been injected, however, we tend to wait about a month or so at least before doing so.
Ulthera and fillers
Ulthera at the upper cheek or undereye region targets a more superficial depth than where filler is typically injected in that area. If you had Restylane injected at the undereye region or "tear trough" area, typically the filler is injected deep, along the bone. Most practioners are concerned that Ulthera directly over fillers may dissolve the filler more quickly (not that the Ulthera will cause the filler to move), so we recommend doing Ulthera first, then injecting filler after. There are other possible side effects with Ulthera in general, regardless of fillers, such as bruising or swelling or even blistering. Whoever is performing the Ulthera (plastic surgeon, dermatologist, or supervised nurse or physician assistant) should take a thorough history and advise you to stop any blood thinning medications and herbs in advance of your treatment. It's an excellent technology that I'm excited about, and have had great results with. Technique and safety are key.
Ultherapy & Fillers Safe
The issue of whether Ultherapy & Fillers are safe together is really not that complicated. Ultherapy causes collagen tightening by heating the layers of tissues of the face in a targeted way. Fillers restore volume in those tissues. Ultherapy before fillers is very safe. We often combine ultherapy with fillers by first doing the ultherapy then placing the fillers so that the heat does not affect them. Heat is more likely to affect botox than fillers. Ultherapy after fillers immediately after fillers and botox probably is not a good idea, but in a delayed fashion is safe. Ultherapy is usually a one time treatment where filler are not. Even if you have some absorption of fillers which will happen anyway...you can get more. The combination together is very effective!
Ulthera Treatment after Fillers
You are correct ultherapy can potentially lessen the effects of fillers so I prefer to do ultherapy first than fillers. However if this is not possible, I will still move forward with ultherapy but make patients aware of possible side effects. These include but are not limited to: welts, numbness, paralysis, bruising, burns, soreness, poor cosmetic outcome, no cosmetic outcome, or reduced effects of filler. Although these risks are unlikely with an experienced practitioner, patients should be fully aware of all possible side effects prior to any procedure.
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