I have ice pick scars on my cheeks. I've done 5 laser resurfacing and 5 microdermabrasion treatments, but I don't see any significant improvement on my scars yet. I was told I still have 3 treatments left. Can I expect the scars to look better after 3 more treatments, or are there any other options I should be better off trying?
Laser Resurfacing and Microdermabrasion for Acne Scars?
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Punch grafts followed by resurfacing work well for ice pick scars
Shallow scars respond very well to the treatments you mentioned, provided that the microdermabrasion is done by a doctor and deeper than what an aesthetician would do. I typically find that punch grafts for ice pick scars work well when they are done first before the resurfacing with dermabrasion, Fraxel or Portrait plasma. The narrow but deep scars are removed surgically with a very fine instrument using local anesthesia and the new hole is plugged with a small graft of your own skin, usually taken from behind the ear so it doesn’t readily show.
After this graft is left alone, most heal in their new location filling the icepick scar. Then resurfacing is done several weeks later to improve the texture and circular incision line around the graft and the other crater scars. At times 30 – 50 punch grafts are done per session and two to three sessions might be needed before the resurfacing. This is an old time treatment and still works better than the newest technology, although the latest in lasers or plasma resurfacing is used for the final stage.
Deep non-ablative fractional laser resurfacing plus ablative fractional is best for deep acne scars
Deep ice pick acne scars are very difficult to treat. Surface laser resurfacing and microdermabrasion do not go deep enough into the dermis (deep layer) of the skin to promote new collagen to plump the scars.
Newer fractional non ablative resurfacing (Satrlux 1540) for 4 treatments followed by a deep ablative fractional laser resurfacing (Starlux 2940) produces the best laser results for acne scars.
It is important that an experieced laser doctor supervise or do your treatments. For effective results the laser power needs to be set at high. Many new laser users are not comfortable using the higher power settings required to effectively treat acne scars.
While microdrmabrasion is helpful for acne control, microdermabrasion alone will have no effect on deep acne scars.
Another very effective treatment is surgical. The ice pick scar is loosened with a surgical punch, which allows the scar to elevate and protude above the skin. Two to three weeks later, the laser is used to plane down the protruding skin and smooth the surface.
This technique unequivocally produces the best results for removal of ice pick scars.
Punch excision or TCA CROSS
Dr Davin Lim
Dermatologist, Laser and Cosmetic.
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Fraxel For Acne Scars
Acne scars are difficult to treat
The treatment is multimodality, including resurfacing (peels, (micro)dermabrasion, CO2 and erbium laser), fillers (HAs, radiesse, sculptra), and excisional surgery as with limited ice pick scar excision or skin lifting as with mini-lifting.
Of course, your skin condition should be as stable as possible under the regular care of a dermatologist or trained esthetician under the supervision of a physician.
Acne scars are difficult to treat! Be patient.
Ice pick scars need deep and full thickness treatment
Laser resurfacing and dermabrasion generally treat surface irregularities.
Ice pick scars are essesntially holes in the skin that usually traverse the enitre thickness of the skin. The best treatment is to punch (cut) them out and then perform a resurfacing procedure to soften the resulting scar.
If I can provide an example to illustrate the point. IF you have a piece of wood that has a knot or worm hole that completely traverses the entire thickness of the wood plank, you can sand, buff, polish, plane and burr the wood plank all you want but you will never eliminate the "defect" unless you completely burr all the way through the wood.
If you do this in skin you will create a scar (3rd degree type wound).
Therefore, consider having the worst ice pick scars cut out and then dermabrasion or laser to eliminate the surface irregularity.
I hope this helps!
You will need fillers
The laser tx will improve your skin to some degree. Fraxel been very effective since it penetrates deep and rebuilds your tissue. The acne starts from deep layers and skin tx do not penetrate deep enough to remove acne. Fillers and fat injection will work better.
Please discuss this with you doctor. If you have very deep acne you wil have better results from fat injection
Results depend on depth of resurfacing
it is difficult to evaluate your situation without photos and laser settings. Ice pick scars sometimes need excision as well. Current thinking is that acne scars respond best to fractional ablative laser resurfacing either with erbium or carbon dioxide lasers. best advice is to see a practicioner with significant experience.
Microdermabrasion or superficial laser will do nothing for ice pick scars.
Hi! Ice pick scars are hard to treat, and "non invasive" treatments will not help. Sometimes, "non invasive" means "non effective".
DEEP laser resurfacing with the dual modality Contour laser ( long pulse and short pulse erbium laser) can often help. But this is done under anesthesia and has a one week recovery.
I am afraid you either have to learn to live with these annoying little scars, or you have to try something "invasive"!