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Subcillary Incision vs. Lower Lid Bleph - Pros and Cons?

asked 1 year ago by London2458 in London, H9
Latest answer by Eric M. Joseph, MD
Question viewed 776 times
Tags: lower eyelids, female, comparison

Dear all, I went to see 2 opthalmic surgeons regarding my lower eyelids which are hollowed and have dark shadows. One advised that I have a marked sulcus with a mild degree of cheek ptosis. He recommended lower lid bleph to free arcus marg and mobilise lower lid fat over orbital rim with fat transposition. He added that I could have fat at a later stage if not happy with the results. The other recommended subcillary incision, what are pros and cons of each? many thanks.

12 answers to Subcillary Incision vs. Lower Lid Bleph - Pros and Cons?

Subciliary incision vs. lower eyelid blepharoplasty vs cheeklift - you get one shot at the lower eyelids

In my opinion, patients with a downgoing lateral canthus, problems with hollowness and lower eyelid irregularities will benefit most from a cheeklift. In our practice, an ultrashort incision cheeklift, probably coupled with an autologous graft would be the most beneficial. Subciliary incision just means an incision below the lashes. Both of your options, the arcus marginalis technique and the lower eyelid blepharoplasty you described would probably be performed through a... more

Brent Moelleken, MD
Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon

www.drbrent.com

You appear to be a good candidate for an Injectable Filler procedure to minimize the appearance of your lower eyelid bags.

I read your concern and reviewed the photo you posted. You appear to have lower eyelid grooves (tear-troughs) that are excentuating the appearance of bags in your lower lids. This can be improved with an Injectable Filler procedure. My expertise is with Silikon-1000 for permanent results. I typically advise against lower eyelid blepharoplasty with fat removal, as this is often unnecessary, and may lead to a hollow, operated appearance. I've attached a photo from my RealSelf... more

Eric M. Joseph, MD
West Orange Facial Plastic Surgeon

Surgical Options to Improve the Lower Eyelid Bags

Hi London2458 in London, Eyelid plastic surgery is not merely one procedure, but rather many potential operations. Your plastic surgeon will tailor eyelid surgery to each specific patient's anatomy and personal goals, among many factors. A specific recommendation cannot be made on the out-of-focus & distorted photograph submitted. As other eyelid plastics surgeons have already stated, both eyelid techniques that you have mentioned are appropriate methods of eyelid... more

Houtan Chaboki, MD
Washington DC Facial Plastic Surgeon

www.potomacplasticsurgery.com

Lower eyelid blepharoplasty

You have several options when considering rejuvenation of your lower eyelids. Consider that there is some hollowing out of your lateral orbital wall along with loose skin and bulging of orbital fat. Things that should be addressed are a resuspension of your orbicularis muscle, possible repositionling of your orbital fat and an elevation of your malar fat pad to fill the loss of fullness.

Jeffrey Zwiren, MD
Atlanta Plastic Surgeon

Lower lids eye surgery

I always state that everyone makes chicken soup differently, and so to a plastic surgeon. Everyone will do things a bit differently. Look at each surgeons results and see if you like them, and then choose a surgeon.

Steven Wallach, MD
Manhattan Plastic Surgeon

Lower lid circles result from cheek fat falling

All of the previous comments present important concepts to consider. The aging of the lower lid is due to many factors that cannot be corrected by a subciliary resection of skin alone. The anatomic layers of skin, muscle, and fat need to be addressed as well as the falling midfacial fat pads (or SOOF). Weight loss can be an aggravating factor. Restoration of volume by restructuring these components surgically is recommended and can be very satisfactory. ... more

Randy Wong, MD
Honolulu Plastic Surgeon

Lower eyelid blepharoplasty, which approach is best for you.

Having a side view might be helpful, but it seems as though you have prominent eyes with a much less prominent midface (hypoplastic). You do not appear to have much in the way of a lot of excess lower eyelid redundant skin, but rather contour irregularities. I would agree with the arcus marginalis release/fat transposition method, but would only approach this through a transconjunctival incision to keep risks of retraction and scaring less. You might not have enough in... more

Robert Schwarcz, MD
New York Oculoplastic Surgeon

Lower Blepharoplasty Methods

From the picture, you need the procedure recommended and outlined by you with elevation of the cheek and anchoring of it to the tissue over the lateral bone as well as stabilization of the lateral support of the eyelid. This is usually done using a subciliary incision. Therefore, both surgeons may be telling you the same thing. This incision generally heals almost invisibly.

Robert T. Buchanan, MD
Highlands Plastic Surgeon

Its all in the details

Both techniques are fine when done by individuals who perform them regularly. I agree that there is a slightly higher risk of lower lid malposition with the sub-cilliary approach but this i reduced when the surgeon also makes sure to tighten the lid at the same time. What the real issue here is about recognizing volume loss. I think that this is key to rejuvenate the lower lid and think that you would do best with the fat repositioning procedure that will help fill out the hollows more

Benjamin C. Marcus, MD
Madison Facial Plastic Surgeon

www.uwhealth.org

Blepharoplasty Incisions

The major issue concerning the lower lid is prevention of ectropion (eversion of the lower eyelid). The difference between the two incisions is the position of the incision and that there is a slightly decreased chance of ectropion with a lower lid incision. I am of the opinion that a surgeon should be fairly aggressive in managing the chance of ectropion by managing the lateral canthus. Of the two incisions I like the subcillary incision. The transconjunctival approach... more

Earl Stephenson Jr., MD, DDS
Atlanta Plastic Surgeon

Subcillary Incision vs. Lower Lid Bleph - Pros and Cons

Thanks for posting a photo. The 2 previous expert posters are relating vast information to you. Yes you should research this issue but as a lay person I think you will not fully understand the detail surgical prose of these articles. I would recommend at least a transconjunctival approach and a possible lateral cantopexy. Do not do ant subciliary incisions that is a mistake. Seek further opinions in person.

Darryl J. Blinski, MD
Miami Plastic Surgeon

You will not do well with an infracillary incision.

From your photos, it is clear that you have a very large eye relative to the projection of your cheek bone. As it is, the lower eyelids are barely holding their position on your eyes. They are there by virtue of the muscular tone of the orbicularis oculi muscle holding the lower eyelid in place. The infracillary incision will damage the nerves that supply the orbicularis oculi muscle closest to the lid margin. This contributes to destablizing the lower eyelid.... more