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Which Do You Think is Better to Combat the Dreaded Frown Line...botox or Juvederm?
asked 3 months ago by fetch in pennsylvania
Latest answer by Brooke R. Seckel, MD
Question viewed 314 times
Tags: 11s, comparison, effectiveness, frown lines
I am going to have either or done next week for my frown line between my eyes. I can't stand it! I had a conservative amount of Botox done for this last year and it worked fine, but I still was able to see a faint line still. Do you think that getting Juvederm this time around would be a better option, or should I just ask for more Botox?
20 answers to Which Do You Think is Better to Combat the Dreaded Frown Line...botox or Juvederm?
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Many patients need both Restylane/juvederm and Botox/Dysport for the frown lines.
Fillers like restylane or juvederm fill in the lines whereas botox/dysport help the muscles not move as much to make the lines less pronounced. Many patients need both and they can be done at the same time easily. Expect to pay about $350 for a half syringe of filler and about $300 for botox or dysport in this area. Doing both will probably make the most improvement of all. Sincerely,
David Hansen,MD
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Botox for FRown Line is Much Better Than Juvederm
The Frown Line also called the 11's is caused by the contraction or activity of the Frown Muscles, the Procerus and Corrugator. When these muscles tighten during stress or concentration they pull the skin overlying the muscle into a fold, the Frown Line.
Botox or Dysport injection relaxes the Frown Muscles and the Frown Lines disappear.
Frown lines are called Dynamic Lines when they only show when you frown. Dynamic lines are removed with Botox and Dysport.
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Star with Botox, then consider Juvederm.
I would recommend starting with Botox Cosmetic to weaken the glabellar frown muscles and then consider an HA filler like Juvederm if deeper furrows or frown lines remain after 3 to 4 weeks of inactivity. The results can be impressive and extend the longevity noticeably, since the Juvedrem lasts longer.
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Botox vs Juvederm for Glabellar Wrinkles, (the 11's)
Botox is usually the first line of defense in this area. This usually works well. Sometimes a well established or deep wrinkle may need a little filler. Remember that one may never have it perfectly smooth. This depends on how long the wrinkle has been established, sun damage, scar in the area, etc. Talk to your doctor, and tell him what your expectations are. He will advise you on what is possible.
Jeffrey Roth, MD
Las Vegas Plastic Surgeon
Las Vegas Plastic Surgeon
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Botox and Juvederm
Botox works great for limiting the movement of the muscle that forms the frown line. If you have a line that is present when not moving your brows, called a static line, then Botox may not be enough. In that case adding a filler to the treatment can help fill in the lines. For deeper wrinkles such as this, I like a combination of Botox and a filler.
Monica Halem, MD
New York Dermatologic Surgeon
New York Dermatologic Surgeon
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Which Do You Think is Better to Combat the Dreaded Frown Line...botox or Juvederm?
IMHO, no contest...Botox and the other neurotoxins are far superior in reducing unwanted forehead lines and wrinkles.
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Botox or filler for a frown line
A frown line develops from repreated msucle animation and the subcutaneous fat thins in the region leaving an etched in line. Sometimes botoc alone can soften the line. This may take several treatments. Juvederm or any filler may help soften the line some more.
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Frown Line Treatment Options
Most plastic surgeons and dermatologist will recommend Botox as first line treatment for frown lines. Fine wrinkles or faint lines may still be visible after Botox treatment. These wrinkles or lines may then be possibly treated with a facial filler, skin care, or laser resurfacing.
Only after a comprehensive evaluation can a specialist help determine appropriate options for you. Best of luck.
Dr. Chaboki
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Botox is the treatment of choice for most patients' glabellar wrinkles of the forehead
Most physicians will say that Botox is the treatment of choice for the glabellar lines. Filler can be added if necessary and may last longer than the botox but it can cause lumpiness that is unsightly if too much is given.
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Botox works but you need to use it regularly
The frown lines will continue to improve if you use botox regularly. Usually you need to get it every four months for the best results. It will weaken the muscle and reduce your frown lines. Juvederm can be used as well. You said you got it last year. I don't know if you got it two months ago or fourteen months ago. But, Botox works really well for frown lines and if you have to chose one or the other, chose Botox.
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Combination treatment for 11s
Botox and fillers work by different mechanisms. Since Botox gave you a reasonable result, you could try it again and supplement either at the same time or later with some filler material. It all depends on your financial priorities.
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Combo treatment for the 11s
Combinations of BOTOX and fillers like Restylane and Juvederm work very well in this area, each serving to prolong the other. i especially like Silicone Microdroplet here. Please remember that BOTOX does not erase lines; it simply relaxes muscle. You will still have visible lines if you had them before the treatment.
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Botox and Juvederm for frown lines
I would continue using Botox in this area since you have had a good result in the past. I think adding a filling agent such as Juvederm or Restylane is appropriate if there is still a line present after Botox. I regularly place toxins and fillers in the frown area for patients with more well demarcated lines. The cosmetic result with this combined treatment is usually excellent. I also agree with the others here that there is inherently more risk in this...
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Botox is the gold standard treatment of the 11s or frown lines but Juvederm or Restylane also has a role
Botox is the gold standard treatment of the 11s or frown lines but Juvederm or Restylane also has a role. Botox is the first line treatment for these lines since they usually result from excessive and repetitive muscle contraction. With that said many people have "imprinted" lines (like a creased tablecloth) that will not totally respond to Botox treatment. Those lines often require filling with some Juvederm or Restylane for full correction. This is an ADVANCED injection technique...
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Botox or Dysport usually best for frown lines between eyebrows
Because the cause of the vertical lines between the eyebrows is usually a hyperactive muscle, relaxers such as Botox or Dysport are usually best. If the lines are deep and etched in then you might follow up with a dermal filler such as Restylane or Juvederm.
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Botox or Juvederm for galbellar creases
I would treat with the Botox since you had a good response last time. Sometimes when the muscles are relaxed, the lines soften significantly, but a fine line is still present. If this is bothersome to you a filler can then be placed. I think this is the safest option and agree with Dr. Steinsapir that there is a small risk of emboliztion with filler in the glabellar area. Lana Long, M.D.
Lana Long, MD
Cincinnati Dermatologic Surgeon
Cincinnati Dermatologic Surgeon
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Frown Lines
Frown lines are primarily caused by the dynamic action of the muscles in the region. The best treatment is to stop the action of the muscles with Botox. Fillers in this region without Botox are a less than ideal treatment. If the lines have been there for some time, there may be a residual line that can be filled in. But, if you keep up with the Botox every 4 to 6 months, gradually the lines will disappear and usually after 3 to 4 treatments the interval...
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John Borkowski, MD
Hartford Plastic Surgeon
Hartford Plastic Surgeon
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Botox or Juvederm
Botox and Juvederm are both great products but work by different mechanism. So the question really should be which product do you need, not which product is better. If you post pictures, we may be able to give you more specific advice. Basically, if you have dynamic wrinkles (wrinkles which occur with movement of the muscles) then Botox will be very helpful. If you have static wrinkles (wrinkles that are there even at rest) then you likely need Juvederm. If you...
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There is no question that the safest, most established treatment is BOTOX.
While it is increasingly common to have Hyaluronic acid fillers placed in the glabellar area, this is a high risk area for these products. On the other hand, this area is FDA approved for the cosmetic placement of BOTOX. Millions and millions of safe treatments have been performed for precisely this indication. What are the risks in placing hyaluronic acid filler in the glabellar area? There is the potential to embolize product into the many blood vessels in this...
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Botox vs Juvederm
It depends a bit on whether you have static lines in your forehead. For instance, do you have lines when you aren't moving your forenead, raising your eyes, or squinting your eyes? If so, these lines can't be softened with Botox. Those types of lines remain even if you get the muscles in the glabella to relax, and thus, would need to be filled with a filler like Juvederm. Most of the time, for people like this, who have these types of lines, I do a bit of Botox to stop the muscle...
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