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Younger not "refreshed". Is this possible with a facelift?

  • diannne
  • Seattle
  • 1 year ago

 Maybe my goals are not the norm and maybe that's why it is hard to settle on a doctor. I don't get it. Doctor's websites keep stating that the patient did not want their facelift to make them look "younger"  just "refreshed".  There are lots of less expensive options out there that  leave you looking "refreshed" without the expense or down time.  Are they any doctors out there whose goal is to shave years off of your face? I've been searching through the sites and I see before and afters of necks and faces that look like barely anything was done. Tons of reviews on here about how great their doctor was and how "conservative" they were and how now the patient looks "refreshed". Of course there are no pictures attached to these reviews.  Am I strange?  I want to roll back the years as much as possible.  Help me!  Who has had a great facelift that left them looking younger with great eyes etc?  Thanking you in advance. Dianne

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Yes you should get both if your surgeon chooses the right goal with your understanding of course! ,Sometimes that strange distinction has been used to excuse some poorly performed or ineffective facial procedures from mini lifts to lasers,fillers,skin tightening technologies etc.In reality restoring a fresher ,firmer ,more dynamic and pleasant expression wil certainly also make you look younger but not by merely pulling skin, Restoring ,brightness to the look,fulness to cheekbones,definition to the neck and glowing skin can all be achieved by the right kind of procedures as can be judged by the results obtained by the Refresher lift,Dual plane brow lift combined with fat injection .Check www.cliniqueps.com Dr Christian Drehsen board certified plastic surgeon
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Hi, I live in London and Oslo and have always hated my noise. I had a few consultations in Oslo and London but was 100% confident. A lady I met in New Your recommended Manhattan Facial Plastic Surgery Dr. Samieh S. Rizk, 1040 Park Avenue, New York, NY 10028. Tel: 212-452-3362 www.drsamrizk.com my nose is amazing. I travelled all the way from London to New York for a consultation with Dr Sam Rizk. He is amazing, he cares about his patients and he listens. His Waiting area was full, with Patients travelling to see him from all over the world, White, Asians and Black. I had my nose job in 2009 July and had no complications I just love my nose, it compliments my entire face. I have posted pictures before and after on Make Me Heal and the link is http://www.makemeheal.com/pictures/rhinoplasty/paso-a10340
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hi - just came across your post as i'm looking for info on dr. chout (thank you ladies for posting info about him! very difficult to find anything about him!) In any case- i'm not looking into face lift, but i had a PS in LA area (who has a huge ego as he claims he is the best at EVERYTHING) but he even said there is 1 guy better than him at facelifts. So I asked "Who?" just out of curiosity because I'm looking for rhino expert, not facelift. He said Dr. Marten in SF. I don't know anything about him, or anyone who has been to him. But that's just what he told me. So maybe check into him? Good luck!
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Hi NylaGirl, The reason you don't see much on CHOUT the internet is that he has his patients sign a contract agreeing to not post anything online about him. He also bullied a website to remove the negative posts by threatening a lawsuit. Nonetheless, I've already found a number of CHOUT's unhappy patients on this site. Like me, he was very good at marketing, but once he get the money, you are on your own. With so many talented and caring plastic surgeons, I would stay clear of those who are unethical and unprofessional and only interested in making money. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Good luck on your search for a specialist in rhinoplasties. Take your time. This site, if you have the time, provides very useful information. Once you interview a doctor, I would really encourage you to find women on this site who've had work done by the doctor because doctor's only post positive results, so you never get the full picture. Cheers, Ruz
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Correction: I meant to say: Like me, the other women found that he was very good at marketing . . . . Thanks, Ruz
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Hi, I live in London and Oslo and have always hated my noise. I had a few consultations in Oslo and London but was NOT 100% confident. A lady I met in New York recommended Manhattan Facial Plastic Surgery Dr. Samieh S. Rizk, 1040 Park Avenue, New York, NY 10028. Tel: 212-452-3362 www.drsamrizk.com my nose is amazing. I travelled all the way from London to New York for a consultation with Dr Sam Rizk. He is amazing, he cares about his patients and he listens. His Waiting area was full, with Patients travelling to see him from all over the world, White, Asians and Black. I had my nose job in 2009 July and had no complications I just love my nose, it compliments my entire face. I have posted pictures before and after on Make Me Heal and the link is http://www.makemeheal.com/pictures/rhinoplasty/paso-a10340
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Hi, Thanks for Your comments about Chout, it was Extremely helpful. I was thinking about having a Beauty Design with Chout, but now, I will not Pick Up the Phone to ring for a Consultation. All Expert Surgeon will Permit Patients to give Positive and Negative Feedback and also NOT request Cosmetic Surgery forums to remove Negative feedback.
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Hi Pamsolanke, At 7 months post op, I'm still dissatisfied with Chout's work, and I'm looking at having revisions to correct his work. The experience with him has been a nightmare. I should have done more research on CHOUT. Another plastic surgeon I consulted told me he has a bad reputation, and that he was involved in a lawsuit. Take your time to research, interview, and create a very precise plan to communicate to the doctors you are consulting. It is your face, and any mistakes can be devastating. Good luck! Ruz
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Hi Ruz, Hope you are doing well, I am trying to send you a private message and for some reason it is not working. When you have a chance plz send me one that I will reply to. Hope to hear from you soon...Codie Girl
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Hi Codie, I sent you a private message. Ruz
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Hi Dianne, I think it's more play of words, I too have had surgery and indeed I have a refreshed new look while still being me,saying this I look 20 years younger.our skin and the texture changes as we age so to want to be 20 again when we are 60 is pushing the pen.although we certainly can look younger because the signs of age are being removed or improved to give a more youthful and refreshed appearance. Still keep in mine the damage from the sun,climate,age and of course our own DNA will vary the outcome of surgery :)if you like check out my review.I went to Thailand and very happy with my results
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Mr. Stanek (London) does the surgery part of the TV programme, 10 years younger. He told me that he couldn't make me look 10 years younger as I didn't have the same amount of skin damage the ladies have on the programme. (from sun and smoking etc). BUT, he told me the morning after my surgery that he did manage it - 10 years younger. And I agree. I'm shocked when I look at my own photos. I'm going to post a picture of me 10 years ago to compare...
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So far no answers from any PS. I guess it's hard to deliver such result. Few years ago I visited Dr Jullien Henley in Westchester somewhere but did not feel it. He quoted me $15000 for facelifts
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Hello there, I'm having the exact same problem! I want to do multiple surgery facial procedures. A true makeover surgery, about 12 different procedures on my face. The only doctors I've found online that do that drastic change are Dr. Randal Haworth and Dr. phillipe Choute. I also feel uncomfortable contacting them because the before and afters were not shot in the same light, with the subjects using the same makeup, etc. Not saying they are dishonest , but I personally want a doctor who holds themselves to the highest ethical standards. On the other hand, I don't want to spend thousands of dollars to do surgeries that won't make me look that different. I've been considering going out of the country, or finding a surgeon that specializes in transgender individuals , and are used to more drastic surgery . I'm very concerned about going out of the country . . . does anyone know a great surgeon who specializes in facial surgery ? Any info will be helpful! Thanks!
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When you find your doctor let me know! Thanks and I will do the same. I've looked at Dr. Little in Washington D.C. but like Dr Chout there are no real reviews of him out there... However he does do before and afters where he takes care to use the same lighting and no smiles so you can truly see his work.
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Hi Dianne! I will. I also might look at South Korea since they do a lot of surgery and really change peoples faces . I'm just really scared of complications.
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Anyone in particular in South Korea? Thanks Dianne
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No , I don't know anyone over there. I'm going to start by researching the doctors on the show "let me in".
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Btw, dr little seems really professional! Unfortunately it seems like he only does facelifts. I need to find someone like that for the surgeries I want!
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S9sss, I had Dr. Chout perform several surgeries, and I'm sad to say that I'm not happy with the results for various reasons: first, I don't like the aesthetic result; second, he has not been good in the after care; third, he has been very unresponsive to communication. It seems that one he got the money, everything changed. Beware! Ruz
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Hi ruz, I'm sorry to hear you didn't have a good result. Thank you very much for the warning, I definitely won't be going with him. Were you able to find a doctor you like?
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Thank you so much Ruz! I am so happy you responded. Many women have been curious about this doctor and the answer of how good the results are are just not there. I am going to make up my mind soon. I' deciding between Dr. Lev (Costa Rica), Dr. Gorin (Oregon) and Dr. Naficy (Washington). Did you travel from the US for your surgery? Thank you so much
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Dear Dianne, Yes, I traveled from the US. As I mentioned to S9SSS, it is extremely important that you choose a doctor that you can trust and who will support you before, during and after the surgery. Depending on what you plan to do, the recovery can be long and issues can come up. If you have a doctor like Chout who does not care once he get his money, you can end up with a lot of headaches, anxiety and might end up paying more money to have another doctor address any post-op issues. I already have an appointment with another PS to consult with him on some problems that I'm worried about. If you are considering Dr. Naficy, you might want to contact Westy53, who had various surgeries with him and seems to be very happy. Below is the link to her profile: http://www.realself.com/review/bellevue-wa-facelift-face-neck-and-brow-lift-plus-fat-transfer Best of luck, Ruz
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What went wrong!? What are you worried about? Good luck and keep us posted.
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The overall result was not what I expected. Right now, I would give anything to look like I looked before. This should tell you how unhappy I am. I have a consultation on Feb. 20 with another PS, and I'll keep you posted as to what he says.
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