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Younger not "refreshed". Is this possible with a facelift?

  • diannne
  • Seattle
  • 11 months ago

 Maybe my goals are not the norm and maybe that's why it is hard to settle on a doctor. I don't get it. Doctor's websites keep stating that the patient did not want their facelift to make them look "younger"  just "refreshed".  There are lots of less expensive options out there that  leave you looking "refreshed" without the expense or down time.  Are they any doctors out there whose goal is to shave years off of your face? I've been searching through the sites and I see before and afters of necks and faces that look like barely anything was done. Tons of reviews on here about how great their doctor was and how "conservative" they were and how now the patient looks "refreshed". Of course there are no pictures attached to these reviews.  Am I strange?  I want to roll back the years as much as possible.  Help me!  Who has had a great facelift that left them looking younger with great eyes etc?  Thanking you in advance. Dianne

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Hi Dianne, I think it's more play of words, I too have had surgery and indeed I have a refreshed new look while still being me,saying this I look 20 years younger.our skin and the texture changes as we age so to want to be 20 again when we are 60 is pushing the pen.although we certainly can look younger because the signs of age are being removed or improved to give a more youthful and refreshed appearance. Still keep in mine the damage from the sun,climate,age and of course our own DNA will vary the outcome of surgery :)if you like check out my review.I went to Thailand and very happy with my results
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Mr. Stanek (London) does the surgery part of the TV programme, 10 years younger. He told me that he couldn't make me look 10 years younger as I didn't have the same amount of skin damage the ladies have on the programme. (from sun and smoking etc). BUT, he told me the morning after my surgery that he did manage it - 10 years younger. And I agree. I'm shocked when I look at my own photos. I'm going to post a picture of me 10 years ago to compare...
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So far no answers from any PS. I guess it's hard to deliver such result. Few years ago I visited Dr Jullien Henley in Westchester somewhere but did not feel it. He quoted me $15000 for facelifts
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Hello there, I'm having the exact same problem! I want to do multiple surgery facial procedures. A true makeover surgery, about 12 different procedures on my face. The only doctors I've found online that do that drastic change are Dr. Randal Haworth and Dr. phillipe Choute. I also feel uncomfortable contacting them because the before and afters were not shot in the same light, with the subjects using the same makeup, etc. Not saying they are dishonest , but I personally want a doctor who holds themselves to the highest ethical standards. On the other hand, I don't want to spend thousands of dollars to do surgeries that won't make me look that different. I've been considering going out of the country, or finding a surgeon that specializes in transgender individuals , and are used to more drastic surgery . I'm very concerned about going out of the country . . . does anyone know a great surgeon who specializes in facial surgery ? Any info will be helpful! Thanks!
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When you find your doctor let me know! Thanks and I will do the same. I've looked at Dr. Little in Washington D.C. but like Dr Chout there are no real reviews of him out there... However he does do before and afters where he takes care to use the same lighting and no smiles so you can truly see his work.
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Hi Dianne! I will. I also might look at South Korea since they do a lot of surgery and really change peoples faces . I'm just really scared of complications.
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Anyone in particular in South Korea? Thanks Dianne
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No , I don't know anyone over there. I'm going to start by researching the doctors on the show "let me in".
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Btw, dr little seems really professional! Unfortunately it seems like he only does facelifts. I need to find someone like that for the surgeries I want!
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S9sss, I had Dr. Chout perform several surgeries, and I'm sad to say that I'm not happy with the results for various reasons: first, I don't like the aesthetic result; second, he has not been good in the after care; third, he has been very unresponsive to communication. It seems that one he got the money, everything changed. Beware! Ruz
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Hi ruz, I'm sorry to hear you didn't have a good result. Thank you very much for the warning, I definitely won't be going with him. Were you able to find a doctor you like?
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Thank you so much Ruz! I am so happy you responded. Many women have been curious about this doctor and the answer of how good the results are are just not there. I am going to make up my mind soon. I' deciding between Dr. Lev (Costa Rica), Dr. Gorin (Oregon) and Dr. Naficy (Washington). Did you travel from the US for your surgery? Thank you so much
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Dear Dianne, Yes, I traveled from the US. As I mentioned to S9SSS, it is extremely important that you choose a doctor that you can trust and who will support you before, during and after the surgery. Depending on what you plan to do, the recovery can be long and issues can come up. If you have a doctor like Chout who does not care once he get his money, you can end up with a lot of headaches, anxiety and might end up paying more money to have another doctor address any post-op issues. I already have an appointment with another PS to consult with him on some problems that I'm worried about. If you are considering Dr. Naficy, you might want to contact Westy53, who had various surgeries with him and seems to be very happy. Below is the link to her profile: http://www.realself.com/review/bellevue-wa-facelift-face-neck-and-brow-lift-plus-fat-transfer Best of luck, Ruz
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What went wrong!? What are you worried about? Good luck and keep us posted.
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The overall result was not what I expected. Right now, I would give anything to look like I looked before. This should tell you how unhappy I am. I have a consultation on Feb. 20 with another PS, and I'll keep you posted as to what he says.
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Wow Ruz, that's awful. I really , really hope your new doctor can fix it. Who are you seeing?
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Ruz, I am scheduling a facelift for end of March and altho I had an upper bleph decades ago which is just fine there is a lateral hooding that COULD be addressed by a lateral brow lift. I am hoping to solve the problem with a little skin excision in the upper lid that might extend to the outer corner of the lid and that would be the simplest way to address this. However, can you tell me on your temporal/lateral brow lift.....where were the incisions and how large were they? Was an endoscope used? Are muscles tightened? Is there any kind of fixation device used to secure the lift (endotine or screws :( yikes!) or is it sutured and if so sutured to what? What was the recovery like in terms of pain? Any issues created with your upper eye from the lateral lift? And to what extent do you have numbness. IMO a trichophytic brow lift, like Dr Naficy did with Westy 53 is a very aggressive way to accomplish a more refreshed upper eye and there will be from that numbness extending back into the crown of the head for a very long time~perhaps forever. So there are certainly types of brow lifts I don't think I'd like to have and don't think I'll need. But I think a lateral lift is a term being used to mean quite a few different things. I appreciate your information having gone thru this...thanks, grace
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Hi S9SSS, I'm looking at booking appointments with two surgeons in the LA area: Lambros and Hoenig,
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Hi Grace60, The incisions for the lateral brow lift extended from above the ear to the temple area. In my opinion, Chout did not do a good job because the incisions a way too long and somehow he made my eyes slanted, which was not the outcome I wanted. As I explained to him, my expectation was for the eyebrow to be lifted as it was sagging a bit. I wish I had opted for the endoscopic lateral brow lift. Now, I have to wait until the hair grows along the area before I can wear my hair in certain styles. My advice is to see if the endoscopic approach will give you the result you seek. As far as symptoms, the sides near the incisions feel tight and swollen. Hope this helps. Ruz
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Good luck ! Let us know if you like them. I'm in New York, and I can't say I liked any doctor I consulted with, I feel they all want $$$ and don't care what your face looks like. Hopefully LA is better, I'm sure there is a great surgeon out there for you! ;-)
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Correction: I did really like one doctor I met , Oleh Slupchynskyj. He was honest, patient, and seemed very caring. Unfortunately he does not do double jaw surgery, which is what I am doing right now, but he encouraged me to do it first even though he would not profit from it. When I go back for my fat transfer, etc ( in about a year when I heal), he will be the one of the first I consult with again. Sorry for not sharing this info sooner , this consult was about three years ago and I hadn't thought about my previous consults in ages!!! Some of them were so awful I just tried to forget the whole experience. Also dr neinstein ( he's in canada now but I met him when he was finishing his residency at Lennox hill ) he also encouraged me to do double jaw before anything else, and I sensed he was a great doctor. I just saw some reviews for him on here, and they are all good! I hope this info is helpful
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Lambros has some excellent facelift photos. Have you seen any of his eyes or brow work?
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i totally agree, the same here.... :-(
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Great article. Thanks Dianne. Meanwhile I did my surgery but still look my age.:-(. I follow this topic closely. This by far the best Q
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