Is It True Dermarolling Ages You in the Long Term? Are There Any Studies on the Effects Longterm?

  • ahha
  • 2 years ago

Is this true? "The reason this torture device works is the dermis layer of skin rushes all kinds of "repairs" to heal the damage done by the puncture holes inflicted upon the skin.  also temporarily improves the skin's appearance. problem is the long term effect. The "repairs" greatly accelerates the decay of the dermis layer that only has a limited number of repairs in it before it starts to permanently collapse. When the collapse happens wrinkles and harder skin are the result. So, in effect, users are prematurely aging their appearance for a very temporary improvement. A more sustainable alternative is Botox or Dysport  at a much lower treatment cost. Results last 3-5 months even longer with periodic treatment, they don't damage the dermis layer of skin." I read this in a post on website reviewing the dermaroller.

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I don't know about "studies" but I have used micro needling off and on for a few years with only positive affects. I recently started a series of 3 (just finished 2nd today) Dermapen (a brand of professional needling device, not roller though) and have seen definite improvements in my skin, based on before and after pics that I took. I will continue to monitor, I don't mind being a test subject when it helps lol.
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Hi, did you buy the dermapen or are you going to a spa, etc? What size needle are you using? Thank you.
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Botox and Dysport are both toxins no matter how you cut it. They work by causing paralysis of the musculature. Demarolling/microneedling is still a safer option that yields results lasting at least a year if skin is cared for. If used along with Platelet Rich Plasma Therapy (PRP), the results are more pronounced and longer lasting. I am an RN and alternative wellness practitioner trained in botox, dermal fillers, etc..., but due to personal philosophy of cancer prevention and wellness promotion, I opted to not perform these unless there is a medical basis for such treatment. Temporary cosmetic enhancement is no reason to inject a toxin into your body.
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This to some degree sounds true . Think of how laser works by destroying and repairing skin . This claim is supported by many of our laser damage stories and even many stories on the vi peel . It actually could explain many of the deteriorating , sinking , sink holes that people suffer with after aggressive treatments . I personally am a laser damage victim and would like to try derma rolling but , you have to rest and go slowly . Seriously consider all cosmetic enhancing options carefully . You could go backwards like many of the people who have had their life destroyed by lasers and peels. Interesting post . I will look into .
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I've had 4 professional derma rolling treatments so far. I understand why you want to move forward with caution. I think rolling would be a good choice. I don't see how proper derma rolling could further damage your skin. Good luck!
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This claim was spread by the owner of a laser/Botox/Dysport clinic and has been thoroughly debunked: forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/long-term-dermis-damage-for-temporary-gains/
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This is shocking! If this is true (and it does seem to make sense), why hasn't anyone commented on this post? There's a fortune being made in DermaRollers and they're making us look older in the long term.
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We need way more reviews on derma rolling by the public not the manufactures . Don't believe any site selling something . Look for independent reviews and real stories . Be careful of false posts from companies doing there own pr via word of mouth ( forums)
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No, it is scaremongering to sell more Dysport, Botox and Laser treatments. The person who spread that nonsense has been exposed and his claims thoroughly debunked: forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/long-term-dermis-damage-for-temporary-gains/
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Oh by the way as mentioned I am a laser damage victim , if I find any solutions including dermal rolling or anything else that works, be sure I WILL be posting . Laser has destroyed my life at 23 . Would do anything to fix it , but I'm so deeply immobilised by fear of making it worse .
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Hi Sandy, I am a laser victim also. Have you been able to find anything to help you?
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Sandy, I had laser administered by an MD in Dallas 10 years ago with terrible results - lots of melasma, hypopigmentation, etc. After hoping for results with microderm and glycolic peels, I did a couple of deep peels (erbium laser) with very good success. I did not find them painful, but I did look like I fell on my face at 60mph for about 4 days afterwards When the peeling began, I was delighted, but it was not completely repaired. I have continued to microneedle darkened areas and then apply a 12% hydraquinone solution that my dermatologist prescribed and it looks pretty darn good. I have a medium Caucasian skintone that is prone to cystic acne and scarring, and the treatments have actually retarded the acne and erased past scars. No complaints. Good luck and hang in there - there is a good chance that you can improve your situation!
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Appalachian Diva, Hi! After your laser in Dallas did you end up with pin dots, lines and fat loss? Are you saying the erbium laser helped the most or microneedling? Thank you.
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My problem was primarily large areas of hyperpigmentation, but some hypopigmentation as well. The erbium laser faded these areas, as well as removing other scars and blemishes I was less concerned about. It did leave very, very small lines at first, but even then it was so much better I didn't care. The continued use of the microneedling has faded and hydroquinone them so I can not see them at all, even under 5X magnification. In your case, I might go with the microneedling before you do any other lasering; it could be that will do the trick. That said, I was ABSOLUTELY against laser work after the nightmare in Dallas, but I was very comfortable with the decision after having a doctor look at my skin who is experienced in treating what he called "laser fails"! I did not have an issue with fat loss after laser, but was noticing it simply with age. I will tell you that I had platelet rich fat transfer under the eyes and and marionette lines, and it looks wonderful! Perhaps this is something you might consider! Good luck to you.
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Thank you so much AppalachianDiva. What is a platelet rich fat transfer? I know what a fat transfer is, but not familiar with that. What size needle do you use and how often do you use it? Where did you purchase your roller?
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The fat transfer uses your own fat (mine came from my butt!) and blood. After drawing the blood, they place it in a centrifuge for the purpose of separating platelets from other components. This serum is mixed with the fat and then injected into areas where fat has dissipated. Since you are using your own genetic material, acceptance and grafting have a very good rate of success. As far as size of needle, I use a wide .5 mm roller all over and a narrow 1.0 mm for problem areas, The size depends a lot on the characteristics of the area you are rolling (skin thickness, subQ fat) and what you are trying to achieve. I get more pronounced results with the 1.0 roller, but I can't do it as often - more uncomfortable, and more healing time needed. Speaking of that, dermarolling doesn't leave a lot of visible damage, but you need to let the skin rest and rejuvenate. It's critically important to use an A&D ointment on skin afterwards. I love Infadolan which is a European cousin to Neosporin/A&D with retinol added. I get both that and my rollers at a site called Own Doc. The lady who runs it is very knowledgeable and helpful.
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Lately, I have been using 1.0 needle every eight days or so, then I apply copper peptides or retin a and then argon oil to moisturize the area.
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