Has Anyone Tried Kor Deep Bleaching?

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  • 2 years ago

Does it work very well? I am thinking about trying it since Nite White 22% failed to give me the results I was looking for. I went to Kor website to find a dentist near me who uses Kor, but neither are using it anymore. Does it still exist? One of the dentists is using another Deep Bleach called Pageant White. I wonder if that's as good. Does it matter what bleach you use or is it all in the way the trays fit? I'm confused!

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I have been using Kor Deep Bleaching and my teeth are not coming white. What should I do after spending all my money on this Kor Whiting
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Hi Rod I have been whiting my teeth for three week today and my teeth is not white. I have the 16% gel do you advice me to pay $300 and get a stronger strength. I am so disappointed that this is not working. Do you give refunds if this don't work?
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At this point, when it comes to KORs, I really am not interested in any other dentists input except for dr. Kurthys. He's the only one I feel I can trust at this point. Just sayin.
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Hi. I am very excited to begin KoR whitening! I went yesterday for the molds and have an appointment in a few days for desensitizing. I do have sensitive teeth though and I am very nervous that I might have a problem. I even felt some weird but tolerable sensitivity when they put they made the molds! I am using Sensodyne right now and I hope my dentist follows the procedures for sensitive teeth! He is listed on your website as a trained dentist for KoR. Any further suggestions for sensitivity?
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To be more specific I guess I am asking what the best protocol is for a patient who is known to have sensitive teeth. I want to make sure my dentist and KoR are following the same guidelines. Again, my dentist is listed on your website and also I have an appointment THursday for a sensitivity treatment when I pick up my kit. I assume my doctor is making my trays since it will be only 3 days between making the molds and picking up my kit after the sensitivity session. THanks for your advice in advance. I just don't want extreme sensitivity. I can tolerate some, just not horrible sensitivity. That is why I completely skipped trying any other product because I was told KoR does seem to cause less sensitivity. I will definitely update my progress as I continue using KoR! Deb
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Ok so I had my first appointment today and received my kit. I had a desensitizing treatment and was instructed to desensitize tonight and tomorrow night before I put on the bleaching trays. Also I am to desensitize each morning for 2 weeks, but only the first two nights. I watched the dvd. So I think I am ready. Like some of the other people who posted I am going to take Ibuprofen. If there is anything else I should do to avoid intense sensitivity let me know! I am expecting some since my teeth are sensitive already anyway. I just hope to avoid terrible pain. I will keep people posted through my progress.
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So they had u put I'm ur trays with gel and had u sit for 20 minutes?
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No, I just the desensitizing gel put on my teeth with a q tip. Tonight I start the bleaching.
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I have tetracycline stained teeth and have been told all my life there was nothing I could do to whiten them. I was considering veneers but, obviously, the cost is high. I did one more 'google' before committing myself and I came up with the KoR system. I work overseas for a month at a time, 28 days on and 28 days off. I have some concerns about taking the gel with me in a carry on due to the gel and fluid limitations placed by the airline security. I hesitate to put it in my checked bag due to the likelihood of my bag getting lost (its been delayed/lost 1 out of 3 travelling times in the past year) What are my chances of success doing this a month at a time?
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Hey Rod! I had a question for you regarding sensitivity post in-office whitening. We are new to the KoR whitening system and are really excited to try it out. We are currently using the MAX system on our staff members so that when we recommend it to our patients we can speak from our personal experience. We started with the impressions, which were taken using the putty and wash technique from the video, then sent them to the KoR lab. When we received our bleach trays back we gave the first 2 staff members the goodie bags with the supplies, whitening gel and instructional DVD. They went home and used them for 14 days. One staff member used the whitening gel nightly for 14 consecutive days, including the proper use of the desensitizing gel. On the 15th day we performed the in-office whitening appointment. We were able to complete 3-20 minute sessions of whitening, followed by a desensitizing treatment. Prior to the whitening we had completed a desensitizing treatment prior to the placement of the dam, then made sure the teeth were properly and completely isolated. I had instructed her to take ibuprofen before her appt to battle any potential sensitivity. During the procedure she did not experience any sensitivity, however later that night she experienced very bad sensitivity. She reported that it was painful to breath through her mouth and stopped talking altogether. She was attacked by zingers for the next day and a half. The other staff member (our doctor) used the bleach trays for 14 non-consecutive days (within a 2.5 week period). When she had completed that we did the in-office whitening. We could only do 2-20 minutes sessions before she experienced zingers and we stopped. She was in such pain that it took several applications of the desensitizing gel before she could continue with her day normally. She also experienced severe sensitivity for the next 2 days. She took pain killers and continued to use the desensitizing gel, however it still took days until her teeth felt normal. We have been pouring over the instruction book that we received with our start-up kit to see if we missed anything or are doing our procedures incorrectly. So far we are following all of the instructions and cannot find any additional information that would help us. I understand that this is not a normal outcome with the KoR products and that is why this is so frustrating and confusing for us. Naturally the other staff members are now nervous and hesitant about trying the KoR whitening system. Yes, their teeth are now brilliantly white, but so far the cost seems too much. I was hoping that you could shed some light on something that we could do/do differently to prevent this from happening for our other staff members, or even our patients. I would really appreciate all the feedback you could give us!
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Hi Mary, This forum is for patients. For questions like this, as I talk about in the training materials, you need to contact your clinical specialist at KoR. There is a chapter in your training that goes over all this. It sounds like there are steps you may have missed from that chapter. You can even ask to speak specifically to our senior clinical specialist, Dina. She will have many questions to ask you, etc. Thanks.
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Hey Rod! I had a question regarding the KoR system and sensitivity, post in-office whitening. We have just started using the KoR system in our office and are taking turns among the staff whitening our teeth so that when we recommend it to our patients we will be able to speak from our personal experiences. We started with the impressions using both the putty and wash and sent those to the KoR lab to make the bleach trays for us. After receiving them back we gave them to our staff members with the overnight KoR MAX whitening goodie bag, including the supplies and DVD instructions. One team member wore the trays nightly for 14 consecutive days (using the desensitizing gel as recommended), then on day 15 we did the in-office whitening session. We followed protocol as it was lined out in the instruction book that we received with our start-up kit. We used the desensitizing gel prior to applying the dam, curing and completely isolating her teeth. We then completed the 3-20 minute sessions of the whitening gel, under close supervision to make sure that the gel stayed only on her teeth, then followed with another desensitizing treatment. I had advised her to take ibuprofen prior to the whitening to treat any possible sensitivity. Throughout the procedure she experienced zero sensitivity, however that evening and the next day she had constant "zingers". She reported that she could not even talk because her teeth were so sensitive, and breathing with her mouth open caused her pain. Our other staff member (our doctor) used it for 14 non-consecutive days, within a 2.5 week period. After she was finished we did the in-office whitening and after only 2 whitening sessions we had to stop since she was experiencing "zingers", which were quite painful. Only after several applications of the desensitizing gel was able to continue her day normally. She reported that later that night she experienced severe sensitivity which lasted throughout the following day as well. Unfortunately, the rest of our staff are nervous and hesitant about trying KoR after hearing about these experiences. Yes, their teeth are very white now, but the cost seems to be too much. For the past couple days we have been over and over the procedure protocol to see if we missed anything or if we were incorrectly administering the whitening gel, but so far we have been doing everything that your book recommends. I was hoping that you could give us some advice about what we could do/do differently. I really appreciate you taking the time to read this!
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Dr Rod Kurthy, I'd like to know what I am supposed to get with the Kor whitening system at home. My gorgeous bag with blue tissue paper had a dvd, 2 syringes (gel), 1 case, 2 trays (upper and bottom teeth), some long q-tips, and a little bottle for desensitizing, oh and paper instructions. Now I've read in the comments some people saying they got two cases (one for each tray) and they got "gel" but no one has mentioned how many syringes. Can you clarify this for me? I do want to mention that I make sure the dentist I chose was in your website. However, I have a very important question before I can start whitening at home. The lady said I was only supposed to wear the trays for up to 4 hours. She emphasized on NEVER sleep with them. But Ive read and heard from your website/video presentation AND from the instructions that you ARE supposed to sleep with them. Why did she say that to me? I didn't say I had sensitive teeth or anything like that, in case you are wondering. I want to start using my trays asap but I don't know now if I should sleep with those in or just have them on for 4 hours. Could you help me please? Thanks!! Val
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Hi Val, What you received in your kit is the most common, but each case is different and what you get and how you use it, is determined by your particular dentist for your particular needs. As far as wearing your trays only during the daytime and for up to 4 hours -- and not wearing the trays during sleep -- I really cannot comment because I am not your dentist and I do not know your situation like your dentist does. But I would offer to have my clinical specialists check with your dentist and discuss your case. And if there are any questions after their consultation, my clinical specialists will always bring me into the conversation. So if you would give me your first name and last initial and the name of your dentist, I will have my clinical specialists contact your dentist. I do think that would be a good idea. Thanks. Dr. K
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Thank you for your prompt reply. I really appreciate it. I am done watching the dvd and since it talks about "when you wake up in the morning" it makes me confused as if I should go for the 4hrs or the whole night. Thus, I'll wait for your next reply before I start whitening. Thank you again. My info: my name is Valeria V. and my dentist is Dr. Edward Stepanenkov.
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Hi Val, My senior clinical specialist spoke to Fabiola at your dentist's office today and went over certain things. Dina said they had a very nice and helpful discussion. Give them a call to see if they do want to make any changes based on the discussion, or if they want to keep their instructions the same. Remember, this is a "doctor dispensed" type of treatment, so unlike over-the-counter products, KoR Whitening will be different for many patients. On your DVD I go over the most common instructions, but your doctor's instructions will always trump what I say on the DVD. Thanks. Dr. K
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Dr. Kurthy, I did the 14 nights treatment following every single step. I avoided any food that could stain my teeth during the procedure and 2 days after it was done. I saw wonders every morning after I would remove the trays from my mouth. But today, 3rd day after being done whitening; my teeth look not as bad as when I started this treatment but they are definitely not as white as when I was doing the treatment. Is this normal? What should I do? I don't want to reverse the process. I am scared because today I am leaving on a 2 week vacation. I can't take the trays or the gel with because they will obviously be out of the fridge for hours (international flight) and the trays could melt. I will however bring a whitening toothpaste with, but I am truly scared of what will happen in the next two weeks. Please let me know your thoughts on this. For the record, I went to visit my dentist right after I was done with the treatment and he said they look great and his assistant advised me to continue doing it once a month. I am worried, I don't want to have to depend on putting the gel every night on my teeth to be able to have that beautiful smile I had achieved (and I didn't change my diet, in case you are wondering). I'll wait for your reply. Thank you, Val
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Can I drink coffee during the weeks I am doing the process?
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Hi Charlotte D. Technically no. You should not consume -- or rather avoide as much as possible -- any foods and drinks that would cause a stain on a white shirt that would be difficult to remove. That is what I teach dentists in the KoR Whitening training. However, it would not be the end of the world if you sneak a bit of coffee now and then. The KoR kits come with an at-home desensitizer that you will apply daily. This is important for two reasons. First and foremost, it helps reduce tooth sensitivity. But it also does help a bit to reduce or retard re-staining of the teeth during whitening. So if you're going to consume coffee, make sure to apply the desensitizer every day, even if you don't need it specifically for sensitivity. But still, just try to "reduce" your coffee intake. I'll tell you a funny story. I had very, very dark teeth. And no, that is not the reason that I've done research on teeth whitening longer than anyone else in the world (since 1977). It is just coincidence. Anyway, I had a combination of congenitally dark teeth plus diffuse tetracycline staining. I tried to whiten my teeth three times with no success. I remember that friends used to ask me why my teeth were so dark even in junior high school. Well, when I developed that process that I now call KoR Whitening, of course I did my own teeth. And at the time I was (I shouldn't admit this) a horrible diet Coke addict. But throughout the process I totally stayed away from diet Coke. While I was in the dental chair for the final step of the process (the in-office procedure after having done the weeks of at-home whitening), my dental assistants went to the restaurant across the parking lot and bought a HUGE diet Coke for me, and left it sitting on my desk in my private office. So when I was finished with my whitening session, I walked into my office, and to my joy, saw that huge diet Coke. As you can tell, I have the greatest team of dental professionals working for me in the entire world!!!
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Whats the exact Kor bleaching procedure for tetracycline stained teeth. Getting ready to get started but would like to make sure they are using correct procedure. Would also like to know how to be certain sure they are not using a "fake " system. They are charging $1400.00.
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I went in for a first appt and had molds of my teeth taken for a set of custom bleaching trays. Second appt had desensitizing work done. I went home with a 'kit' that was very professional, two KOR labeled tray holders, one set of custom tooth bleaching trays, a CD rom from KOR, KOR bleeching gel, KOR desensitizing liquid all put into a gorgeous KOR shopping bag. I then went in every 2 weeks or so to check the color. I continued bleaching every night for about 6 weeks to get my teeth white due to heavy tetracycline stains. I just do it about once a month now and I still have gorgeous white teeth. The price you are paying seems high (I paid $750) but it's worth every penny in my books.
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WOW!! You got a "smokin' deal!" You obviously have a VERY caring dentist. My bet is that your dentist was as excited for you as you were. If your dentist only charged $750 for a TETRACYCLINE treatment (which sounds like he or she did a GREAT job of!), he or she made little to no profit, considering the cost of the lab, the base whitening kit and allllll the additional whitneing gel involved. If I were you, I'd send a really great thank you card! I'd LOVE to know what the name of your dentist is. I'd love to call him or her personally and thank them for doing such a great job of following their training to the letter.
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Well, of course every patient, and every case is different. So take what I say with a grain of salt. Each dentist must determine what is correct for each individual patient. But I will give you a BASIC discription of the procedure for a tetracycline stain case. Also, keep in mind that KoR is NOT "magic". It's science. Nobody should EVER promise you a perfect result. There is no such thing. The point is that before KoR Whitening, tetraycline stains were considered impossible to whiten. KoR is NOT simply a whitening system for tetracycline stains. It is simply unchallenged as the most effective whitening system ever developed. So it's the only whitening system that can even tackle tetracycline stains and have at least a very "significant" result. Considering that the only other treatment is $20,000 to $40,000 worth of porcelain veneers, even if you got a 50% improvement, that would STILL be considered a miracle. So make sure that your expectations are not unrealistic. Most of the time there is more than 50% improvement. Actually, quite a bit more than 50%. My point is that we are not gods, and we can only do what is possible. So here is the BASIC approach for a tetracycline case: 1) The very unique KoR impression. This is a mold taken of your teeth in the dental office. It is a VERY precise mold, so sometimes they need to take the impression more than once. 2) The fabrication of the KoR-Seal Whitening Trays. These trays are the cornerstone upon which I developed all of the chemistry of the products. So those trays must be very precise. For this reason, we really urge dental offices to have the KoR-Seal Whitening Trays made at the KoR Laboratory so that we're certain that they "seal" very well. 3) You have a "conditioning visit" in the dental office. They try in the KoR-Seal Whitening Trays to confirm they fit and seal well. Then they fill the trays with the KoR "conditioning" gel for 20 minutes, and then re-fill the trays for another 20 minutes. You may or may not see some whitening from this procedure. The conditioning gel is designed to chemically emphasize the "oxygenation" process of the gel. This helps microscopically cleanse the microstructure of the teeth so that the at-home whitening works even better and faster. 4) you will typically wear your whitening trays during sleep for 6-8 weeks. Most often the dental office will have you back every 2 weeks to see how you're doing. In the beginning they may not know how long you will whiten at home. They may determine how long based on how quickly you respond. 5) When your dentist determines you are ready, you will have the higher concentration whitening procedure in the office. 6) You will then wear your whitening trays again nightly for 10-14 nights. 7) Depending on how you have responded, the dentist may or may not recommend what I have called "accelerated maintenance" to help "set" the color. 8) Then you go into long-term maintenance. Average patients are recommended to do maintenance by wearing their whitening trays at night about one night per week. This enables them to continue having their coffee, tea and red wine, and still keep their teeth whitened PERMANENTLY. For tetracycline stains, because they are much stronger, they tend to want to relapse faster, so my normal recommendation is maintaining long term two nights per week. Just remember, these are the BASIC guidelines. Every patient is different, and the doctor needs to determine the specific needs based on each patient and how each patient responds. And above all, realize that none of us are magicians or gods. We can only do the best we can with the best system available. How YOUR particular teeth respond is somewhat of an unknown until you have treatment. Good luck! I have no doubt you'll be thrilled with the results.
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