Has Anyone Tried Kor Deep Bleaching?

  • 1Tracy1
  • 2 years ago

Does it work very well? I am thinking about trying it since Nite White 22% failed to give me the results I was looking for. I went to Kor website to find a dentist near me who uses Kor, but neither are using it anymore. Does it still exist? One of the dentists is using another Deep Bleach called Pageant White. I wonder if that's as good. Does it matter what bleach you use or is it all in the way the trays fit? I'm confused!

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I have VERY sensitive teeth, so I know I'm way outside the norm. I was only able to do the bleaching every other night, so it took me a month to complete what should have taken me 2 weeks. After my final visit--I had severe zingers! YIKES!! Hydrocodone didn't even touch it!!--my dentist told me that I should do the maintenance--3 to 4 times a week for a month, then 2-3 times a week for another month, and so on. I haven't read about this 'maintenance' anywhere in your writings. To me, that's like being tortured for another 3-4 months! Can you please clarify? Thanks! The results ARE amazing, but if I had known then what I know now...
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Wow - that sounds really crazy for maintenance after KoR whitening. Especially considering you said you got great results. Everything I've read suggests wearing your trays only about once a month for maintenance, although my dentist suggested to me that I could probably touch up only about once every six months or so considering that I don't drink coffee, tea, or red wine. I would ask your dentist why he suggests such an intense maintenance routine as this certainly doesn't sound typical - especially if your teeth were so sensitive. And perhaps a dental professional experienced in KoR could comment for all of us about the suggested maintenance routine as they really isn't much information out there on this. For example, I'd like to know if you are supposed to use the desensitizer during maintenance.
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Great question, Darlene! Yeah, I'm not gonna do the extended maintenance recommended by my dentist--it's just too much! I MAY use it once a week or a couple times a month, but anymore than that seems ludicrous! ;)
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I have VERY sensitive teeth, so I know I'm way outside the norm. I was only able to do the bleaching every other night, so it took me a month to complete what should have taken me 2 weeks. After my final visit--I had severe zingers! YIKES!! Hydrocodone didn't even touch it!!--my dentist told me that I should do the maintenance--3 to 4 times a week for a month, then 2-3 times a week for another month, and so on. I haven't read about this 'maintenance' anywhere in your writings. To me, that's like being tortured for another 3-4 months! Can you please clarify? Thanks! The results ARE amazing, but if I had known then what I know now...
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While I'm not a person to typically post comments about a product, in this instance I feel compelled to share my very positive experience with the KoR Deep Bleaching System to help those of you looking for a user experience on this topic. I just finished my final KoR in-office session after doing 14 nights at home with the custom KoR trays and my results were absolutely awesome. It seems there are some variations with how the process is sometimes administered, so I'll share what I experienced in as much detail as I can. To begin with, I'm 52 years old and have never tried any teeth whitening product prior to this experience - not even so much as a whitening toothpaste. I decided to do the KoR method because I eventually need some old restorations replaced and really did not want those done to match the existing dark color of my teeth. I was not looking for blinding white movie star results, but rather just nicer-looking whiter natural teeth. My dentist offered me options, but said he preferred the consistent reliability and the permanent results that he has experienced with the KoR method, so I went ahead with his top recommendation - although I do have to add this was by far the most expensive option. I did not have any specific staining problems with my teeth, they were just generally dark - I believe they told me a C3 shade for those of you familiar with the shade guides. The process began with getting impressions of my teeth. Now I've always hated getting impressions as I gag quite easily, but the impression material that was used for KoR set up very quickly and it was not at all an unpleasant experience. Then I had to wait three weeks while my impressions were sent to the KoR lab for fabrication of the custom whitening trays. After the three weeks I went in for a short appointment where I received my custom trays with case, whitening gel, desensitizer solution, DVD, and written instructions. At this appointment I tried on the trays (empty) and they were checked for proper fit. The staff also took note of my starting shade and put that down in my records. Other than that, they just reviewed all the instructions with me, told me a little bit about what to expect at the in-office appointment, and answered any questions. In my situation, no treatment or conditioning was done at this session. The next part was the at-home night whitening were I wore the trays overnight with the gel for 14 consecutive nights. The first two nights also included the application of the special desensitizer which I applied with a supplied cotton swab prior to wearing the trays. I also used the desensitizer every morning after I brushed as well. Personally I found applying the desensitizer just a bit awkward - it was easy on the top two front teeth, but the long cotton swab just didn't seem to be the right tool for the job when trying to apply to the lower teeth or to the side teeth. It wasn't a big deal, but it seemed that a different type of applicator would have made it a little easier to properly access all surfaces of the teeth. The nightly process was not difficult, but it did require a certain level of commitment and patience. In my particular case - and this is NOT the norm for most users - I did tend to salivate quite a bit after inserting the trays. I worked around this problem by just taking a dry terry cloth washcloth and putting the corner of the cloth between my front teeth and sticking it under my tongue to absorb the saliva. I rotated to a fresh corner as needed throughout the night and I did sleep with the washcloth between my teeth. Now I should add that my dental office, upon hearing about my problem with the excessive salivation, did call the KoR clinical representative and I was given the option of changing to day-time gels, but I opted to continue with the night-time gels using my improvised wash cloth technique. For those of you wondering about sensitivity, I had practically none - just maybe a very slight bit starting after the third or fourth nights that would surface as the day wore on, but barely worth mentioning. Now, with that being said, I did use Sensodyne toothpaste two weeks prior to and during the entire process just as a precaution. I also took some Advil for the first two nights - again as a precaution. I probably would not have had to done either of these however. Other than the salivation, the only other discomfort I experienced was a mild to medium tingling of the gums right along the gum line. This would subside after about 30 minutes after inserting the trays and the more careful that I was about wiping off any access gel, the less I experienced this. It reminded me of the tingling sensation that you might get from rinsing with a really super strong mouthwash. For me this was a tolerable sensation, but others might be somewhat bothered by this as it is mildly uncomfortable. In my case I saw huge results in whitening after just the second night which only got better and better as the nights continued. By the time I showed up at my dental office for the in-office procedure, my teeth had already whitened from a C3 to a B1 - just on the at-home part of the process alone! This visual difference was huge. Even dark brown staining between my teeth had disappeared! Now I have to add that during the 14 days, I was extremely careful not to eat or drink anything that was even remotely staining and I'm guessing this probably contributed to the super results I achieved at home. Based on my problem with the excessive salivation, my dental office asked me to come in one hour prior to my appointment time so they could give me two little pills of Sal-tropine which they said would help control the saliva and make the procedure much more comfortable for me. Again - this is not the norm for most people - it's just that for some reason my salivary glands were working overtime and they wanted me to be comfortable and didn't want the excessive salivation to interfere with the final bleaching process. They also gave me Advil before the appointment to help with any possible sensitivity. After I waited for the hour, they put Vaseline on my lips, put in lip retractor on, and started the process. By the way, the lip retractor looks kind of scary, but it's not that bad. You get to bite down on it so your jaw is not strained at all and there's a little bar that comfortably holds your tongue back. Yes, your lips are stretched back, but not uncomfortably so. They started by applying the desensitizer and then they put the green dam substance along my gum line to protect them from the bleaching gel. The green dental dam substance was hardened on with a light and the dam stayed on for the entire process. At my dental office, one staff member applied the dam while a second person hardened it with the light. They said they like to use two people so the process goes a little quicker. Then they applied the gel for the first 20 minute session. After the 20 minutes, the gel was suctioned off and a new application of gel was applied for another 20 minutes. For me, I had three back-to-back 20 minute applications. They encouraged me to listen to music or TV and I did bring my headphones, but I was actually quite comfortable and really did not need the distraction to get through it. The dental staff checked on me quite often, suctioning saliva when needed, and just checked to always make sure everything was OK. I did not feel any zingers or any other tooth sensitivity during the process; but just like at home, I did experience some gum sensitivity with that intense tingling sensation. After they suctioned off the gel after the third procedure, they again applied the desensitizer, rinsed everything really well, removed the dam material, removed the retractor, and I was done! So if I remember all the numbers correctly, I started at a C3, went to a B1 after the 14 nights, and ended up at a 040 after the in-office procedure, which I understand is one of the 4 bleaching shades on the shade guide. In my opinion, to have gotten these whitening results in just 14 days made the entire process totally worthwhile. I am totally thrilled and very happy that I chose the KoR method rather than wrestling with an in-home whitening method for many weeks. My dental office suggested that I take some more Advil later that day and to keep avoiding staining foods for a few more few days now that the procedure was complete. I was also given some medicated gel to apply to my gums where the tissue got just a little bit blanched. I'd like to add that in my case, the entire KoR procedure was administered by the dental staff and not by my dentist (I actually had three very attentive team members working with me throughout the course of the session), but for me this was no problem as I love the all the staff there, and the dentist was always nearby if needed. Of course he did pop in to see the great final results. That night I started to feel just the slightest bit of sensitivity, but I did not need to take any more Advil. I instead decided to apply the desensitizer solution right before bed and the next day my teeth felt completely normal. Few a few days after the procedure my gums were just the slightest bit tender when I brushed, but my teeth really look great and I am more than pleased with the final results. My teeth look clean and natural and do not at all look fake or bleached. No, they are not blinding white and some of my teeth on the sides that had been stained by old amalgam fillings turned out slightly blotchy, but when I compare them to some of my old crowns, the difference in color is really amazing. All my front teeth whitened very evenly, and unless you look really close, you don't even notice the imperfections on the side teeth. Granted everyone is different, but I think if you are realistic about your expectations and have the discipline to follow all the instructions exactly, including watching what you eat for a couple weeks, you will be very pleased with the results from the KoR whitening method. By the way, my KoR procedure was administered by Dr. Matthew Smith and the wonderful team at Stone Ridge Dental in Waukesha, WI and I highly recommend them to anyone from the greater Milwaukee area. And thank you to Dr. Kurthy for all your extensive research and for getting your fabulous whitening method out there in the dental offices. I'm definitely a fan and would highly recommend the KoR method to anyone who is serious about their teeth whitening!
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Can Dr. Kurthys please reply to me....I have been you Kor Deep Beaching for 4 week now and my teeth has only turn one shade lighter....Do I need to get a stronger strenght for this to work. Do you give refunds to the Dentist if your product is not working on a customer?
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I have been using Kor Deep Bleaching and my teeth are not coming white. What should I do after spending all my money on this Kor Whiting
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Hi Rod I have been whiting my teeth for three week today and my teeth is not white. I have the 16% gel do you advice me to pay $300 and get a stronger strength. I am so disappointed that this is not working. Do you give refunds if this don't work?
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At this point, when it comes to KORs, I really am not interested in any other dentists input except for dr. Kurthys. He's the only one I feel I can trust at this point. Just sayin.
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Hi. I am very excited to begin KoR whitening! I went yesterday for the molds and have an appointment in a few days for desensitizing. I do have sensitive teeth though and I am very nervous that I might have a problem. I even felt some weird but tolerable sensitivity when they put they made the molds! I am using Sensodyne right now and I hope my dentist follows the procedures for sensitive teeth! He is listed on your website as a trained dentist for KoR. Any further suggestions for sensitivity?
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To be more specific I guess I am asking what the best protocol is for a patient who is known to have sensitive teeth. I want to make sure my dentist and KoR are following the same guidelines. Again, my dentist is listed on your website and also I have an appointment THursday for a sensitivity treatment when I pick up my kit. I assume my doctor is making my trays since it will be only 3 days between making the molds and picking up my kit after the sensitivity session. THanks for your advice in advance. I just don't want extreme sensitivity. I can tolerate some, just not horrible sensitivity. That is why I completely skipped trying any other product because I was told KoR does seem to cause less sensitivity. I will definitely update my progress as I continue using KoR! Deb
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Ok so I had my first appointment today and received my kit. I had a desensitizing treatment and was instructed to desensitize tonight and tomorrow night before I put on the bleaching trays. Also I am to desensitize each morning for 2 weeks, but only the first two nights. I watched the dvd. So I think I am ready. Like some of the other people who posted I am going to take Ibuprofen. If there is anything else I should do to avoid intense sensitivity let me know! I am expecting some since my teeth are sensitive already anyway. I just hope to avoid terrible pain. I will keep people posted through my progress.
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So they had u put I'm ur trays with gel and had u sit for 20 minutes?
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No, I just the desensitizing gel put on my teeth with a q tip. Tonight I start the bleaching.
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I have tetracycline stained teeth and have been told all my life there was nothing I could do to whiten them. I was considering veneers but, obviously, the cost is high. I did one more 'google' before committing myself and I came up with the KoR system. I work overseas for a month at a time, 28 days on and 28 days off. I have some concerns about taking the gel with me in a carry on due to the gel and fluid limitations placed by the airline security. I hesitate to put it in my checked bag due to the likelihood of my bag getting lost (its been delayed/lost 1 out of 3 travelling times in the past year) What are my chances of success doing this a month at a time?
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As far as your chances doing this one month at a time are concerned, I'd say slim to none. I say this because I also have tetracycline staining and am using the Kor system. I'd recommend either shipping overseas using FedEx parcels with dry ice or calling the helpful customer service people at Kor. Please let us know what you decide and how you make out.
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I will. Shipping overseas isn't really an option. I go to work in a remote location and by the time it got there...I would be on my way home again. I go for my 1st appointment this morning. I'll know more then.
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I work overseas in a remote location so shipping by Fedex isn't feasible. I have my first appointment this morning so I'll know more soon.
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I have tetracycline stained teeth (52 years old), and have been told all my life bleaching would not work. I don't know what "shade" my teeth were, let's just say ugly grey. I tried a home whitening kit about 8 years ago with no success. Then my sister did the KoR system and recommended it to me, and so I tried it. I've now been using it for three weeks and are AMAZED at my results. MY TEETH ARE WHITE! Apparently, with tetracycline stains they expect a longer treatment, as I have a few weeks to go, but I am already pleased. So I would say in my case the month by month treatment could work, but they might not suggest that. I also agree with what Darlene wrote above. I have had slight discomfort, but only a little each day, nothing bad, and much less than I expected. I wholeheartily recommend the KoR treatment.
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Hey Rod! I had a question for you regarding sensitivity post in-office whitening. We are new to the KoR whitening system and are really excited to try it out. We are currently using the MAX system on our staff members so that when we recommend it to our patients we can speak from our personal experience. We started with the impressions, which were taken using the putty and wash technique from the video, then sent them to the KoR lab. When we received our bleach trays back we gave the first 2 staff members the goodie bags with the supplies, whitening gel and instructional DVD. They went home and used them for 14 days. One staff member used the whitening gel nightly for 14 consecutive days, including the proper use of the desensitizing gel. On the 15th day we performed the in-office whitening appointment. We were able to complete 3-20 minute sessions of whitening, followed by a desensitizing treatment. Prior to the whitening we had completed a desensitizing treatment prior to the placement of the dam, then made sure the teeth were properly and completely isolated. I had instructed her to take ibuprofen before her appt to battle any potential sensitivity. During the procedure she did not experience any sensitivity, however later that night she experienced very bad sensitivity. She reported that it was painful to breath through her mouth and stopped talking altogether. She was attacked by zingers for the next day and a half. The other staff member (our doctor) used the bleach trays for 14 non-consecutive days (within a 2.5 week period). When she had completed that we did the in-office whitening. We could only do 2-20 minutes sessions before she experienced zingers and we stopped. She was in such pain that it took several applications of the desensitizing gel before she could continue with her day normally. She also experienced severe sensitivity for the next 2 days. She took pain killers and continued to use the desensitizing gel, however it still took days until her teeth felt normal. We have been pouring over the instruction book that we received with our start-up kit to see if we missed anything or are doing our procedures incorrectly. So far we are following all of the instructions and cannot find any additional information that would help us. I understand that this is not a normal outcome with the KoR products and that is why this is so frustrating and confusing for us. Naturally the other staff members are now nervous and hesitant about trying the KoR whitening system. Yes, their teeth are now brilliantly white, but so far the cost seems too much. I was hoping that you could shed some light on something that we could do/do differently to prevent this from happening for our other staff members, or even our patients. I would really appreciate all the feedback you could give us!
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Hi Mary, This forum is for patients. For questions like this, as I talk about in the training materials, you need to contact your clinical specialist at KoR. There is a chapter in your training that goes over all this. It sounds like there are steps you may have missed from that chapter. You can even ask to speak specifically to our senior clinical specialist, Dina. She will have many questions to ask you, etc. Thanks.
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Hey Rod! I had a question regarding the KoR system and sensitivity, post in-office whitening. We have just started using the KoR system in our office and are taking turns among the staff whitening our teeth so that when we recommend it to our patients we will be able to speak from our personal experiences. We started with the impressions using both the putty and wash and sent those to the KoR lab to make the bleach trays for us. After receiving them back we gave them to our staff members with the overnight KoR MAX whitening goodie bag, including the supplies and DVD instructions. One team member wore the trays nightly for 14 consecutive days (using the desensitizing gel as recommended), then on day 15 we did the in-office whitening session. We followed protocol as it was lined out in the instruction book that we received with our start-up kit. We used the desensitizing gel prior to applying the dam, curing and completely isolating her teeth. We then completed the 3-20 minute sessions of the whitening gel, under close supervision to make sure that the gel stayed only on her teeth, then followed with another desensitizing treatment. I had advised her to take ibuprofen prior to the whitening to treat any possible sensitivity. Throughout the procedure she experienced zero sensitivity, however that evening and the next day she had constant "zingers". She reported that she could not even talk because her teeth were so sensitive, and breathing with her mouth open caused her pain. Our other staff member (our doctor) used it for 14 non-consecutive days, within a 2.5 week period. After she was finished we did the in-office whitening and after only 2 whitening sessions we had to stop since she was experiencing "zingers", which were quite painful. Only after several applications of the desensitizing gel was able to continue her day normally. She reported that later that night she experienced severe sensitivity which lasted throughout the following day as well. Unfortunately, the rest of our staff are nervous and hesitant about trying KoR after hearing about these experiences. Yes, their teeth are very white now, but the cost seems to be too much. For the past couple days we have been over and over the procedure protocol to see if we missed anything or if we were incorrectly administering the whitening gel, but so far we have been doing everything that your book recommends. I was hoping that you could give us some advice about what we could do/do differently. I really appreciate you taking the time to read this!
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Dr Rod Kurthy, I'd like to know what I am supposed to get with the Kor whitening system at home. My gorgeous bag with blue tissue paper had a dvd, 2 syringes (gel), 1 case, 2 trays (upper and bottom teeth), some long q-tips, and a little bottle for desensitizing, oh and paper instructions. Now I've read in the comments some people saying they got two cases (one for each tray) and they got "gel" but no one has mentioned how many syringes. Can you clarify this for me? I do want to mention that I make sure the dentist I chose was in your website. However, I have a very important question before I can start whitening at home. The lady said I was only supposed to wear the trays for up to 4 hours. She emphasized on NEVER sleep with them. But Ive read and heard from your website/video presentation AND from the instructions that you ARE supposed to sleep with them. Why did she say that to me? I didn't say I had sensitive teeth or anything like that, in case you are wondering. I want to start using my trays asap but I don't know now if I should sleep with those in or just have them on for 4 hours. Could you help me please? Thanks!! Val
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