Has Anyone Tried Kor Deep Bleaching?

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Does it work very well? I am thinking about trying it since Nite White 22% failed to give me the results I was looking for. I went to Kor website to find a dentist near me who uses Kor, but neither are using it anymore. Does it still exist? One of the dentists is using another Deep Bleach called Pageant White. I wonder if that's as good. Does it matter what bleach you use or is it all in the way the trays fit? I'm confused!

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Hey Rod! I had a question for you regarding sensitivity post in-office whitening. We are new to the KoR whitening system and are really excited to try it out. We are currently using the MAX system on our staff members so that when we recommend it to our patients we can speak from our personal experience. We started with the impressions, which were taken using the putty and wash technique from the video, then sent them to the KoR lab. When we received our bleach trays back we gave the first 2 staff members the goodie bags with the supplies, whitening gel and instructional DVD. They went home and used them for 14 days. One staff member used the whitening gel nightly for 14 consecutive days, including the proper use of the desensitizing gel. On the 15th day we performed the in-office whitening appointment. We were able to complete 3-20 minute sessions of whitening, followed by a desensitizing treatment. Prior to the whitening we had completed a desensitizing treatment prior to the placement of the dam, then made sure the teeth were properly and completely isolated. I had instructed her to take ibuprofen before her appt to battle any potential sensitivity. During the procedure she did not experience any sensitivity, however later that night she experienced very bad sensitivity. She reported that it was painful to breath through her mouth and stopped talking altogether. She was attacked by zingers for the next day and a half. The other staff member (our doctor) used the bleach trays for 14 non-consecutive days (within a 2.5 week period). When she had completed that we did the in-office whitening. We could only do 2-20 minutes sessions before she experienced zingers and we stopped. She was in such pain that it took several applications of the desensitizing gel before she could continue with her day normally. She also experienced severe sensitivity for the next 2 days. She took pain killers and continued to use the desensitizing gel, however it still took days until her teeth felt normal. We have been pouring over the instruction book that we received with our start-up kit to see if we missed anything or are doing our procedures incorrectly. So far we are following all of the instructions and cannot find any additional information that would help us. I understand that this is not a normal outcome with the KoR products and that is why this is so frustrating and confusing for us. Naturally the other staff members are now nervous and hesitant about trying the KoR whitening system. Yes, their teeth are now brilliantly white, but so far the cost seems too much. I was hoping that you could shed some light on something that we could do/do differently to prevent this from happening for our other staff members, or even our patients. I would really appreciate all the feedback you could give us!
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Dr Rod Kurthy, I'd like to know what I am supposed to get with the Kor whitening system at home. My gorgeous bag with blue tissue paper had a dvd, 2 syringes (gel), 1 case, 2 trays (upper and bottom teeth), some long q-tips, and a little bottle for desensitizing, oh and paper instructions. Now I've read in the comments some people saying they got two cases (one for each tray) and they got "gel" but no one has mentioned how many syringes. Can you clarify this for me? I do want to mention that I make sure the dentist I chose was in your website. However, I have a very important question before I can start whitening at home. The lady said I was only supposed to wear the trays for up to 4 hours. She emphasized on NEVER sleep with them. But Ive read and heard from your website/video presentation AND from the instructions that you ARE supposed to sleep with them. Why did she say that to me? I didn't say I had sensitive teeth or anything like that, in case you are wondering. I want to start using my trays asap but I don't know now if I should sleep with those in or just have them on for 4 hours. Could you help me please? Thanks!! Val
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Hi Val, What you received in your kit is the most common, but each case is different and what you get and how you use it, is determined by your particular dentist for your particular needs. As far as wearing your trays only during the daytime and for up to 4 hours -- and not wearing the trays during sleep -- I really cannot comment because I am not your dentist and I do not know your situation like your dentist does. But I would offer to have my clinical specialists check with your dentist and discuss your case. And if there are any questions after their consultation, my clinical specialists will always bring me into the conversation. So if you would give me your first name and last initial and the name of your dentist, I will have my clinical specialists contact your dentist. I do think that would be a good idea. Thanks. Dr. K
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Thank you for your prompt reply. I really appreciate it. I am done watching the dvd and since it talks about "when you wake up in the morning" it makes me confused as if I should go for the 4hrs or the whole night. Thus, I'll wait for your next reply before I start whitening. Thank you again. My info: my name is Valeria V. and my dentist is Dr. Edward Stepanenkov.
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Can I drink coffee during the weeks I am doing the process?
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Hi Charlotte D. Technically no. You should not consume -- or rather avoide as much as possible -- any foods and drinks that would cause a stain on a white shirt that would be difficult to remove. That is what I teach dentists in the KoR Whitening training. However, it would not be the end of the world if you sneak a bit of coffee now and then. The KoR kits come with an at-home desensitizer that you will apply daily. This is important for two reasons. First and foremost, it helps reduce tooth sensitivity. But it also does help a bit to reduce or retard re-staining of the teeth during whitening. So if you're going to consume coffee, make sure to apply the desensitizer every day, even if you don't need it specifically for sensitivity. But still, just try to "reduce" your coffee intake. I'll tell you a funny story. I had very, very dark teeth. And no, that is not the reason that I've done research on teeth whitening longer than anyone else in the world (since 1977). It is just coincidence. Anyway, I had a combination of congenitally dark teeth plus diffuse tetracycline staining. I tried to whiten my teeth three times with no success. I remember that friends used to ask me why my teeth were so dark even in junior high school. Well, when I developed that process that I now call KoR Whitening, of course I did my own teeth. And at the time I was (I shouldn't admit this) a horrible diet Coke addict. But throughout the process I totally stayed away from diet Coke. While I was in the dental chair for the final step of the process (the in-office procedure after having done the weeks of at-home whitening), my dental assistants went to the restaurant across the parking lot and bought a HUGE diet Coke for me, and left it sitting on my desk in my private office. So when I was finished with my whitening session, I walked into my office, and to my joy, saw that huge diet Coke. As you can tell, I have the greatest team of dental professionals working for me in the entire world!!!
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Whats the exact Kor bleaching procedure for tetracycline stained teeth. Getting ready to get started but would like to make sure they are using correct procedure. Would also like to know how to be certain sure they are not using a "fake " system. They are charging $1400.00.
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I went in for a first appt and had molds of my teeth taken for a set of custom bleaching trays. Second appt had desensitizing work done. I went home with a 'kit' that was very professional, two KOR labeled tray holders, one set of custom tooth bleaching trays, a CD rom from KOR, KOR bleeching gel, KOR desensitizing liquid all put into a gorgeous KOR shopping bag. I then went in every 2 weeks or so to check the color. I continued bleaching every night for about 6 weeks to get my teeth white due to heavy tetracycline stains. I just do it about once a month now and I still have gorgeous white teeth. The price you are paying seems high (I paid $750) but it's worth every penny in my books.
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WOW!! You got a "smokin' deal!" You obviously have a VERY caring dentist. My bet is that your dentist was as excited for you as you were. If your dentist only charged $750 for a TETRACYCLINE treatment (which sounds like he or she did a GREAT job of!), he or she made little to no profit, considering the cost of the lab, the base whitening kit and allllll the additional whitneing gel involved. If I were you, I'd send a really great thank you card! I'd LOVE to know what the name of your dentist is. I'd love to call him or her personally and thank them for doing such a great job of following their training to the letter.
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Well, of course every patient, and every case is different. So take what I say with a grain of salt. Each dentist must determine what is correct for each individual patient. But I will give you a BASIC discription of the procedure for a tetracycline stain case. Also, keep in mind that KoR is NOT "magic". It's science. Nobody should EVER promise you a perfect result. There is no such thing. The point is that before KoR Whitening, tetraycline stains were considered impossible to whiten. KoR is NOT simply a whitening system for tetracycline stains. It is simply unchallenged as the most effective whitening system ever developed. So it's the only whitening system that can even tackle tetracycline stains and have at least a very "significant" result. Considering that the only other treatment is $20,000 to $40,000 worth of porcelain veneers, even if you got a 50% improvement, that would STILL be considered a miracle. So make sure that your expectations are not unrealistic. Most of the time there is more than 50% improvement. Actually, quite a bit more than 50%. My point is that we are not gods, and we can only do what is possible. So here is the BASIC approach for a tetracycline case: 1) The very unique KoR impression. This is a mold taken of your teeth in the dental office. It is a VERY precise mold, so sometimes they need to take the impression more than once. 2) The fabrication of the KoR-Seal Whitening Trays. These trays are the cornerstone upon which I developed all of the chemistry of the products. So those trays must be very precise. For this reason, we really urge dental offices to have the KoR-Seal Whitening Trays made at the KoR Laboratory so that we're certain that they "seal" very well. 3) You have a "conditioning visit" in the dental office. They try in the KoR-Seal Whitening Trays to confirm they fit and seal well. Then they fill the trays with the KoR "conditioning" gel for 20 minutes, and then re-fill the trays for another 20 minutes. You may or may not see some whitening from this procedure. The conditioning gel is designed to chemically emphasize the "oxygenation" process of the gel. This helps microscopically cleanse the microstructure of the teeth so that the at-home whitening works even better and faster. 4) you will typically wear your whitening trays during sleep for 6-8 weeks. Most often the dental office will have you back every 2 weeks to see how you're doing. In the beginning they may not know how long you will whiten at home. They may determine how long based on how quickly you respond. 5) When your dentist determines you are ready, you will have the higher concentration whitening procedure in the office. 6) You will then wear your whitening trays again nightly for 10-14 nights. 7) Depending on how you have responded, the dentist may or may not recommend what I have called "accelerated maintenance" to help "set" the color. 8) Then you go into long-term maintenance. Average patients are recommended to do maintenance by wearing their whitening trays at night about one night per week. This enables them to continue having their coffee, tea and red wine, and still keep their teeth whitened PERMANENTLY. For tetracycline stains, because they are much stronger, they tend to want to relapse faster, so my normal recommendation is maintaining long term two nights per week. Just remember, these are the BASIC guidelines. Every patient is different, and the doctor needs to determine the specific needs based on each patient and how each patient responds. And above all, realize that none of us are magicians or gods. We can only do the best we can with the best system available. How YOUR particular teeth respond is somewhat of an unknown until you have treatment. Good luck! I have no doubt you'll be thrilled with the results.
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Oh...regarding a "fake" system. Yes, some dentists out there are claiming to use KoR Whitening, but are not using genuine KoR products. So go onto the website KoRWhitening.com and look up to see if the dentist is listed. If the dentist is not listed, they still may be a KoR provider. Make sure that the products you get say "KoR" on them. Also make sure that the impression (mold) process is VERY detailed. Make sure that your KoR-Seal Whitening Trays fit impeccably -- "fit like a glove".
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By the way... Thank you for the compliments on the professional look of the system. That "gorgeous KoR shopping bag" that you mentioned is actually something that I designed. I selected a heavy white rope handle bag with a foil stamp of the KoR logo. I didn't know for sure how it would "go over" with the public, but I'm constantly delighted by the great comments. I'm so happy to hear that you had such a great experience. Thanks again.
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Thanks for the quick response! Will share my results!
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Dr Kurthy, What is a pre-at home whitening "condtioning visit"? Thank you.
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The pre-home "conditioning visit" is actually and technically a "whitening visit". There are two phase of peroxide whitening: 1) Oxygenation (like the "scrubbing bubbles" you hear about from Johnson Family products), and 2) "conversion", which is a process wereby byproducts from peroxide break apart stain molecules. The oxygenation phase is a "cleansing phase" that not only cleanses the microstructure of the teeth, but removes stain molecules. This conditioning visit, because I designed it specifically to cleanse, causes the at-home whitening to be more effective and faster. You may or may not see any lightening of your teeth from the conditioning visit.
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Thank you for your answer, Dr Kurthy. I asked this question because my dentist opted to forgo the conditioning visit with me. I have very badly tetracycline stained teeth and I am in week 7 of Kor Whitening. When I asked him about skipping the conditioning visit he explained to me that since I was going to be whitening at home for 6-8 weeks that the conditioning visit wasn't really needed because it is primarily intended to "kick-start" the shorter 2 week at home whitening process. This answer made sense to me. By the way, I'd like to take this opportunity to say "THANK YOU!" for inventing Kor Whitening. My results have been fantastic. Smiling with ease and without being embarrassed by grey teeth is wonderful. I am looking forward to my office visit at week 8 for the final process.
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You are very welcome barca01. I will tell you that your dentist is probably almost as excited as you are about your results. We dentists most commonly treat patients that "hate going to the dentist". What I mean is, yes, for example, our patients may realize they have a cavity that needs to be fixed, but it doesn't hurt them at all, and they can't see it. So they sit in the dental chair with their mouths open, they get a shot of anesthetic in their mouth, they are drilled on, they have a numb mouth for a couple hours, they have to pay money....and they don't feel any better (because the cavity never hurt in the first place) or look any better (because they couldn't see the cavity). BUT...when a patient has a real problem that has been nearly life-long, such as badly tetracycline stained teeth, this problem often alters a person's personality. They don't smile. They're embarrassed around other people. They have much less confidence. And many other things. I once had a 48 year-old patient with bad tetracycline staining, and when we started discussing it, she started telling me how it had ruined her life. She really broke down when she told me how it had affected her high school years -- how she was the butt of jokes by both girls and boys -- how she was not asked out on dates -- and especially how she was not asked to the prom. So when we dentists have the chance to help really change the life of a patient like that, WOW, it makes us so very happy that we became a dentist. That's NOT just me. This type of thing is a constant discussion among dentists. So congratulations to your dentist, and big congratulations for following through with this! You made my day. Thanks. Dr. K.
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I have been using the system for one week now and am starting to see results but am having sensitivity issues. Any suggestions? I ended up taking the trays out last night thinking maybe a night off would help. Also I didn't read the instruction when I picked up the kit last week and went straight from the dentist to a swim meet so it was in the hot car for about 4 hours. Would this be enough to reduce the efficiency of the kit?
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Temperatures in parked cars can easily get up to 165o F. This can affect the whitening gels, which is why you later saw instructions that said not to leave the materials in the car. The heat can have a negative effect on the whitening gels, but even more importantly, the heat can warp the whitening trays. The whitening gel may or may not be OK. The fit of the KöR-Seal Whitening Trays is CRITICAL. I would recommend that you contact your dental office and tell them that you left your kit in the hot car for several hours. I would recommend brining your kit to your dental office to have them check the fit and seal of the whitening trays. If the trays no longer fit or seal, this can result in far less whitening result. Also call your dental office to discuss your sensitivity. In the training dentists receive for KöR Whitening, they learn the protocol for patients with sensitivity. The protocol varies, based upon several factors. Let them know that I have suggested that you contact them so they can look up the various protocols for sensitivity and properly guide you. If they have any question whatsoever, have them call their Clinical Specialist at KöR to discuss your case. Thanks, Dr. Rod Kurthy
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I am 30 and I have moderate tetracycline stains. I tried all different method of bleaching and they did not work. I read about not bleaching long enough at home would fail and its non-reversable. Is there a way I can show Dr Rod Kurthy a picture of my teeth to determine how much time of in-home bleaching I needed for the best result ? and also how much maintainence I needed ?
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I’m sorry I missed your question. I’ve been out of town lecturing at LSU School of Dentistry for a few days. You didn’t say if you’ve used KöR Whitening or not. If you have, since I am not your dentist, I cannot comment on your photos, length of time you have or should whiten, or a proper maintenance schedule. However, if you will have your dentist contact the KöR company, and ask to email this information and have it shown to me, I will be happy to consult with your dentist. If you have not used KöR yet, you would simply find a dentist in your area on the KoRwhitening.com website. Ask them to forward photos and a case description to the KöR company and ask that they be shown personally to me, and I will be happy to work with your dentist. Thanks. Dr. Rod Kurthy
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Just an FYI : The KOR whitening system was invented by internationally renowned cosmetic dentist and expert in bleaching, Dr. Ron Kurthy. The system is considered to be the most effective at whitening teeth that it even whitens tetracycline stained teeth. It works by restoring your teeth’s ability to absorb oxygen. The oxygen from its bleaching gel is absorbed deeply into the tooth, dissolving stain molecules. Unlike other bleaching methods, with easy periodic home maintenance, KoR Deep Bleaching is entirely permanent. Bleaching products have been clinically studied and safely used on millions of patients without harm to teeth or gums. Bleaching is considered entirely safe. Pageant White -this very effective teeth whitening system can remove even those tough gray stains that come from Tetracycline use. What is so amazing about pageant white is that the incredible results achieved come without the sensitivity that teeth whitening tend to produce, due to the precise system used. Desensitizer and bleach are both applied to the teeth. This initial treatment takes about an hour. But still it depends on what kind of teeth you have, it may worked well to others or not. Try to consult other dentist, or other teeth whitening product reviews, maybe it can help you decide or maybe this one cal help you too. http://sleek.ly/teeth-whitening-products-review/
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I tried KOR in Cincinnati and it did not work for me. I have deep yellow stains and used it but did not have the results, nor was their a money back guarantee.
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Something sounds very strange. Can you tell me more about your case? Has to be a reason this did not work for you. Can you give the name of the dentist so that I can check to see if this dentist is experienced in KoR Whitening and exactly what type of KoR System he is using. There are a few different KoR systems, depending on the type and severity of the discoloration. How long did you whiten. Did you whiten during the day or during the night at home? Did you have an in-office whitening session? Was this in-office whitening session done BEFORE your at-home whitening, or was the in-office done AFTER your at-home whitening? Were your KoR Whitening trays made by the dental office staff or by the KoR Laboratory? If you give me your first name and your last initial, I can look it up in our computer to see if the whitening trays were in fact made by the KoR Laboratory. Dr. Rod Kurthy
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