Has Anyone Tried Kor Deep Bleaching?

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  • 2 years ago

Does it work very well? I am thinking about trying it since Nite White 22% failed to give me the results I was looking for. I went to Kor website to find a dentist near me who uses Kor, but neither are using it anymore. Does it still exist? One of the dentists is using another Deep Bleach called Pageant White. I wonder if that's as good. Does it matter what bleach you use or is it all in the way the trays fit? I'm confused!

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Whats the exact Kor bleaching procedure for tetracycline stained teeth. Getting ready to get started but would like to make sure they are using correct procedure. Would also like to know how to be certain sure they are not using a "fake " system. They are charging $1400.00.
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I went in for a first appt and had molds of my teeth taken for a set of custom bleaching trays. Second appt had desensitizing work done. I went home with a 'kit' that was very professional, two KOR labeled tray holders, one set of custom tooth bleaching trays, a CD rom from KOR, KOR bleeching gel, KOR desensitizing liquid all put into a gorgeous KOR shopping bag. I then went in every 2 weeks or so to check the color. I continued bleaching every night for about 6 weeks to get my teeth white due to heavy tetracycline stains. I just do it about once a month now and I still have gorgeous white teeth. The price you are paying seems high (I paid $750) but it's worth every penny in my books.
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WOW!! You got a "smokin' deal!" You obviously have a VERY caring dentist. My bet is that your dentist was as excited for you as you were. If your dentist only charged $750 for a TETRACYCLINE treatment (which sounds like he or she did a GREAT job of!), he or she made little to no profit, considering the cost of the lab, the base whitening kit and allllll the additional whitneing gel involved. If I were you, I'd send a really great thank you card! I'd LOVE to know what the name of your dentist is. I'd love to call him or her personally and thank them for doing such a great job of following their training to the letter.
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Well, of course every patient, and every case is different. So take what I say with a grain of salt. Each dentist must determine what is correct for each individual patient. But I will give you a BASIC discription of the procedure for a tetracycline stain case. Also, keep in mind that KoR is NOT "magic". It's science. Nobody should EVER promise you a perfect result. There is no such thing. The point is that before KoR Whitening, tetraycline stains were considered impossible to whiten. KoR is NOT simply a whitening system for tetracycline stains. It is simply unchallenged as the most effective whitening system ever developed. So it's the only whitening system that can even tackle tetracycline stains and have at least a very "significant" result. Considering that the only other treatment is $20,000 to $40,000 worth of porcelain veneers, even if you got a 50% improvement, that would STILL be considered a miracle. So make sure that your expectations are not unrealistic. Most of the time there is more than 50% improvement. Actually, quite a bit more than 50%. My point is that we are not gods, and we can only do what is possible. So here is the BASIC approach for a tetracycline case: 1) The very unique KoR impression. This is a mold taken of your teeth in the dental office. It is a VERY precise mold, so sometimes they need to take the impression more than once. 2) The fabrication of the KoR-Seal Whitening Trays. These trays are the cornerstone upon which I developed all of the chemistry of the products. So those trays must be very precise. For this reason, we really urge dental offices to have the KoR-Seal Whitening Trays made at the KoR Laboratory so that we're certain that they "seal" very well. 3) You have a "conditioning visit" in the dental office. They try in the KoR-Seal Whitening Trays to confirm they fit and seal well. Then they fill the trays with the KoR "conditioning" gel for 20 minutes, and then re-fill the trays for another 20 minutes. You may or may not see some whitening from this procedure. The conditioning gel is designed to chemically emphasize the "oxygenation" process of the gel. This helps microscopically cleanse the microstructure of the teeth so that the at-home whitening works even better and faster. 4) you will typically wear your whitening trays during sleep for 6-8 weeks. Most often the dental office will have you back every 2 weeks to see how you're doing. In the beginning they may not know how long you will whiten at home. They may determine how long based on how quickly you respond. 5) When your dentist determines you are ready, you will have the higher concentration whitening procedure in the office. 6) You will then wear your whitening trays again nightly for 10-14 nights. 7) Depending on how you have responded, the dentist may or may not recommend what I have called "accelerated maintenance" to help "set" the color. 8) Then you go into long-term maintenance. Average patients are recommended to do maintenance by wearing their whitening trays at night about one night per week. This enables them to continue having their coffee, tea and red wine, and still keep their teeth whitened PERMANENTLY. For tetracycline stains, because they are much stronger, they tend to want to relapse faster, so my normal recommendation is maintaining long term two nights per week. Just remember, these are the BASIC guidelines. Every patient is different, and the doctor needs to determine the specific needs based on each patient and how each patient responds. And above all, realize that none of us are magicians or gods. We can only do the best we can with the best system available. How YOUR particular teeth respond is somewhat of an unknown until you have treatment. Good luck! I have no doubt you'll be thrilled with the results.
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Oh...regarding a "fake" system. Yes, some dentists out there are claiming to use KoR Whitening, but are not using genuine KoR products. So go onto the website KoRWhitening.com and look up to see if the dentist is listed. If the dentist is not listed, they still may be a KoR provider. Make sure that the products you get say "KoR" on them. Also make sure that the impression (mold) process is VERY detailed. Make sure that your KoR-Seal Whitening Trays fit impeccably -- "fit like a glove".
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By the way... Thank you for the compliments on the professional look of the system. That "gorgeous KoR shopping bag" that you mentioned is actually something that I designed. I selected a heavy white rope handle bag with a foil stamp of the KoR logo. I didn't know for sure how it would "go over" with the public, but I'm constantly delighted by the great comments. I'm so happy to hear that you had such a great experience. Thanks again.
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Thanks for the quick response! Will share my results!
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Dr Kurthy, What is a pre-at home whitening "condtioning visit"? Thank you.
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The pre-home "conditioning visit" is actually and technically a "whitening visit". There are two phase of peroxide whitening: 1) Oxygenation (like the "scrubbing bubbles" you hear about from Johnson Family products), and 2) "conversion", which is a process wereby byproducts from peroxide break apart stain molecules. The oxygenation phase is a "cleansing phase" that not only cleanses the microstructure of the teeth, but removes stain molecules. This conditioning visit, because I designed it specifically to cleanse, causes the at-home whitening to be more effective and faster. You may or may not see any lightening of your teeth from the conditioning visit.
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Thank you for your answer, Dr Kurthy. I asked this question because my dentist opted to forgo the conditioning visit with me. I have very badly tetracycline stained teeth and I am in week 7 of Kor Whitening. When I asked him about skipping the conditioning visit he explained to me that since I was going to be whitening at home for 6-8 weeks that the conditioning visit wasn't really needed because it is primarily intended to "kick-start" the shorter 2 week at home whitening process. This answer made sense to me. By the way, I'd like to take this opportunity to say "THANK YOU!" for inventing Kor Whitening. My results have been fantastic. Smiling with ease and without being embarrassed by grey teeth is wonderful. I am looking forward to my office visit at week 8 for the final process.
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You are very welcome barca01. I will tell you that your dentist is probably almost as excited as you are about your results. We dentists most commonly treat patients that "hate going to the dentist". What I mean is, yes, for example, our patients may realize they have a cavity that needs to be fixed, but it doesn't hurt them at all, and they can't see it. So they sit in the dental chair with their mouths open, they get a shot of anesthetic in their mouth, they are drilled on, they have a numb mouth for a couple hours, they have to pay money....and they don't feel any better (because the cavity never hurt in the first place) or look any better (because they couldn't see the cavity). BUT...when a patient has a real problem that has been nearly life-long, such as badly tetracycline stained teeth, this problem often alters a person's personality. They don't smile. They're embarrassed around other people. They have much less confidence. And many other things. I once had a 48 year-old patient with bad tetracycline staining, and when we started discussing it, she started telling me how it had ruined her life. She really broke down when she told me how it had affected her high school years -- how she was the butt of jokes by both girls and boys -- how she was not asked out on dates -- and especially how she was not asked to the prom. So when we dentists have the chance to help really change the life of a patient like that, WOW, it makes us so very happy that we became a dentist. That's NOT just me. This type of thing is a constant discussion among dentists. So congratulations to your dentist, and big congratulations for following through with this! You made my day. Thanks. Dr. K.
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I have been using the system for one week now and am starting to see results but am having sensitivity issues. Any suggestions? I ended up taking the trays out last night thinking maybe a night off would help. Also I didn't read the instruction when I picked up the kit last week and went straight from the dentist to a swim meet so it was in the hot car for about 4 hours. Would this be enough to reduce the efficiency of the kit?
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Temperatures in parked cars can easily get up to 165o F. This can affect the whitening gels, which is why you later saw instructions that said not to leave the materials in the car. The heat can have a negative effect on the whitening gels, but even more importantly, the heat can warp the whitening trays. The whitening gel may or may not be OK. The fit of the KöR-Seal Whitening Trays is CRITICAL. I would recommend that you contact your dental office and tell them that you left your kit in the hot car for several hours. I would recommend brining your kit to your dental office to have them check the fit and seal of the whitening trays. If the trays no longer fit or seal, this can result in far less whitening result. Also call your dental office to discuss your sensitivity. In the training dentists receive for KöR Whitening, they learn the protocol for patients with sensitivity. The protocol varies, based upon several factors. Let them know that I have suggested that you contact them so they can look up the various protocols for sensitivity and properly guide you. If they have any question whatsoever, have them call their Clinical Specialist at KöR to discuss your case. Thanks, Dr. Rod Kurthy
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I am 30 and I have moderate tetracycline stains. I tried all different method of bleaching and they did not work. I read about not bleaching long enough at home would fail and its non-reversable. Is there a way I can show Dr Rod Kurthy a picture of my teeth to determine how much time of in-home bleaching I needed for the best result ? and also how much maintainence I needed ?
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I’m sorry I missed your question. I’ve been out of town lecturing at LSU School of Dentistry for a few days. You didn’t say if you’ve used KöR Whitening or not. If you have, since I am not your dentist, I cannot comment on your photos, length of time you have or should whiten, or a proper maintenance schedule. However, if you will have your dentist contact the KöR company, and ask to email this information and have it shown to me, I will be happy to consult with your dentist. If you have not used KöR yet, you would simply find a dentist in your area on the KoRwhitening.com website. Ask them to forward photos and a case description to the KöR company and ask that they be shown personally to me, and I will be happy to work with your dentist. Thanks. Dr. Rod Kurthy
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Just an FYI : The KOR whitening system was invented by internationally renowned cosmetic dentist and expert in bleaching, Dr. Ron Kurthy. The system is considered to be the most effective at whitening teeth that it even whitens tetracycline stained teeth. It works by restoring your teeth’s ability to absorb oxygen. The oxygen from its bleaching gel is absorbed deeply into the tooth, dissolving stain molecules. Unlike other bleaching methods, with easy periodic home maintenance, KoR Deep Bleaching is entirely permanent. Bleaching products have been clinically studied and safely used on millions of patients without harm to teeth or gums. Bleaching is considered entirely safe. Pageant White -this very effective teeth whitening system can remove even those tough gray stains that come from Tetracycline use. What is so amazing about pageant white is that the incredible results achieved come without the sensitivity that teeth whitening tend to produce, due to the precise system used. Desensitizer and bleach are both applied to the teeth. This initial treatment takes about an hour. But still it depends on what kind of teeth you have, it may worked well to others or not. Try to consult other dentist, or other teeth whitening product reviews, maybe it can help you decide or maybe this one cal help you too. http://sleek.ly/teeth-whitening-products-review/
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I tried KOR in Cincinnati and it did not work for me. I have deep yellow stains and used it but did not have the results, nor was their a money back guarantee.
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Something sounds very strange. Can you tell me more about your case? Has to be a reason this did not work for you. Can you give the name of the dentist so that I can check to see if this dentist is experienced in KoR Whitening and exactly what type of KoR System he is using. There are a few different KoR systems, depending on the type and severity of the discoloration. How long did you whiten. Did you whiten during the day or during the night at home? Did you have an in-office whitening session? Was this in-office whitening session done BEFORE your at-home whitening, or was the in-office done AFTER your at-home whitening? Were your KoR Whitening trays made by the dental office staff or by the KoR Laboratory? If you give me your first name and your last initial, I can look it up in our computer to see if the whitening trays were in fact made by the KoR Laboratory. Dr. Rod Kurthy
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Dr Kurthy I would love to discuss with you my experience with KOR. I went to a dentist in West chester, ohio. I was charged $1500 for the procedure. The only time I dealt with the dentist was for the consultation. He stated I was a good candidate. There after, I dealt with his assistant for the whitening trays as well as the procedures. I was not satisfied, as I thought they would be white, my husband stated they were 25% lighter. I continued the procedure, my 3 visits were up so they continued to allow me to come back to try other whiteners for my teeth, I used the KOR gels at home. I contacted the dentist there was nothing more he could do at that point. I questioned why he did not perform the procedures. Not sure if HE trained his assistant or was she trained through your organization.
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KoR Whitening is typically done by dental assistants. I can't understand your explanation above. I don't know exactly what you mean by "procedures" or when you say you "continued the procedure" or what you mean by your "3 visits were up". And when you say they allowed you to come back to try other whiteners, I don't know what this means. More whitening in the office, or more whitening gel to take home and use? For each and every visit or procedure, if you could explain what you mean (what happened at the various visits and what happened during the various procedures). For me to understand what actually did happen, I would need every question that I asked in my post from yesterday answered. There are just so many variables. Let me do it a different way. I'll number my questions below. Please be sure to answer each and every one of these. 1) Can you give the name of the dentist so that I can check to see if this dentist is experienced in KoR Whitening and exactly what type of KoR System he is using? 2) How long did you whiten? (how many days or nights did you wear the whitening trays?) 3) Did you whiten during the day or during the night at home? 4) Did you have an in-office whitening session? 5) Was this in-office whitening session done BEFORE your at-home whitening, or was the in-office done AFTER your at-home whitening? 6) Were your KoR Whitening trays made by the dental office staff or by the KoR Laboratory? If you give me your first name and your last initial, I can look it up in our computer to see if the whitening trays were in fact made by the KoR Laboratory. 7) In the kit they gave you to take home, was there a DVD in there where I showed you exactly what to do at-home? Without the information above, I have no way to evaluate what may have happened. Thanks, Dr. Rod Kurthy
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1. Dr Thomas Hedge 2. Whitened nightly ( 7 days a week) 3. Yes, I had 3 in office whitening sessions 4. Yes, the in office whitening session were done prior to at home whitening. 5. My tooth imprints were made by the staff and sent to KOR Laboratory, informed it would take up to several weeks for my trays to be made. 6. Jacquelyn M 7. Yes, there was a DVD, I reviewed the DVD prior to at home whitening sessions.
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Thanks Jacquelyn. This does sound very strange. I believe the dentist no longer practices in Ohio. How long ago did you have your whitening done? And no, the dentist did not use the KoR Laboratory. Also, with the KoR Whitening system, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE that if in-office whitening sessions are to be done, they must be done AFTER the at-home whitening. That is very basic KoR protocol, and absolutely critical to successful whitening. Here is the procedure for most patients that have the combination (at-home and in-office) KoR system: A very specific and unique impression taken of the teeth. KoR-Seal Whitening Trays fabricated. These trays are very difficult to fabricate properly, and we always recommend that the trays are fabricated by the KoR Lab so that we can confirm that the impressions taken were good and to create the very best seal of the trays. This seal is absolutely critical to successful whitening. The patient then has a visit where the fit and seal of the whitening trays are confirmed. The patient then takes the At-Home kit home and whitens for 14 consecutive nights while sleeping. The patient then, on the day following the 14th night of whitening, comes in for an in-office KoR Whitening visit. The patient is then given instructions to do ongoing monthly maintenance at-home. With more difficult cases (such as tetracycline staining), the protocol is the same except: there is a very quick in-office visit (called the conditioning visit) before the at-home whitening starts. Then the patient whitens nightly at home during sleep for 6-8 weeks. Then the patient has the in-office whitening visit. And with difficult cases, usually there is more maintenance after the in-office visit to help “set” the whiteness, and then ongoing maintenance. Are you positive that your in-office whitening visits were PRIOR TO your at-home whitening? That is not the KoR protocol. The other “most important” key to KoR whitening is the very unique and super-precise impressions and whitening trays. If these are not fabricated strictly following the proper protocol, this will also greatly affect the whitening result. Dr. Rod Kurthy
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Dr Thomas Hedges still works in the Cincinnati area. One of the best in cosmetic dentistry in the area. It is unfortunate that either the proper procedure wasn't followed or that KOR did not work for me. I was not satisfied and out of $1500. With that being said, I do thank you for your response.
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dr. kurthy do you think I would be a good candidate for Kor deep bleaching? I used to have white teeth.. I used the night bright gel from my dentist and it was great. but I guess I got greedy and I purchased this brush on gel you put on your teeth and then go in the tanning bed and its supposed to brighten your teeth ,,I think I used the stuff 3 times... and then gradually..my teeth started turning grey ... they look horrible..i hate to smile. my dentist has been treating me ever since I can remember and he is dumbfounded... he says hes never seen anything like this. I should tell you that I was a tetracycline baby.. but my teeth have never been grey like this.....I am so excited to have come across your blog here on RS... I want to post a picture but im not seeing how to do that.... I will try to post a regular question and hopefully you will get it. thank you for your time.!!! it means a lot to me. if you think it will work for me, how do I get started?
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Hi Parton, Sorry that I didn't see this question sooner. Have you, over the past couple years, taken an antibiotic minocycline? That is the generic name, so could have been a different brand name. Most tetracycline family antibiotcs cause discoloration primarily during childhood, but minocycliine (which is also in the tetracycline family of antibiotics) can cause discoloration even when you are an adult. So if your teeth all of a sudden became very dark, my bet is that you took some form of minocycline. Minocycline is an effective antibiotic primarily in epithelial tissues such as skin, the mucosa of the mouth or vaginal areas and also the urinary tract -- but some doctors prescribe it also for other things. Regardless of what your discoloration is caused by, KoR Whitening should help. That doesn't necessarily mean a "perfect" result, but usually at least a significant one. To get started, go to korwhitening.com and find a dentist near you. But keep in mind that KoR Whitening is quite different from all other whitening systems. As you know, many people don't like to "change" or do anything new that takes time for training. So some dentists on the site did get the KoR System in their office, but some look at it and don't want to take the time to train in the system. So when you call the dental office, you may find that they don't even use KoR, and if they say they do, ask how many cases they've done and the type of results they get from it. The reason to ask them about the results they see is that some offices (which we have no control over) end up using the KoR products but they continue using their old technique. KoR is a true "system", which means a VERY specific technique and products developed specifically and only for that particular technique. So you want to make sure you go to a dentist who uses not only KoR products, but the genuine KoR protocol. We also encourage our dentist customers to email photos of the patients to use to evaluate prior to treatment. You can ask the dentist to specifically email KoR and ask that I personally look at your photos, which I will be very happy to do. Dr. Rod Kurthy
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